Im voting republican but BOY is Sarah Palins accent and voice annoying!
- Thread starter miaheatlvr
- Start date
bionicarm
Active Member
Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2782511
* I don't expect everyone to know history. That said, it does seem kind of silly to attack someone's point when you later admit you don't know anything about it. The original point is absolutely correct; reparations after WW1, among several other issues with the Treaty, sent Germany into an abyss.
*The McCain is a clone point is just inaccurate. Again, history shows Obama is "more of a clone" to the Democratic Party. Is it fair to say he is a Carter Clone?
You ask "Why not Obama?" Here is why:
*He has stated he will cut our military's budget; including R&D spending
*He wants to socialize major industries in our Nation, including energy and health care.
*He will appoint activist judges to the SC.
*Based on his associations, his cabinet picks, appointments, and other staff will be a disaster for our Nation.
*He has no experience with budgeting
Hitler would've done what he'd done regardless of what happened after the WW1 treaty. He was into religious genocide. He believed all races besides German were inferior. Reparations had absolutely nothing to do with his mindset.
OK, so Obama is true to his party. You compare him to Carter? Good one. Look, Republicans will vote their party regardless because they will always feel the Democratic Party represents Socialism and taxes. However, you really won't know if Obabma's views will follow that line or not. Republicans are already complaining Bush and McCain are moving away from the conservative views of the Party, even showing liberal tendancies. If McCain does get voted in, what good will he do? If the Democrats have the majority in both the House and Senate, none of his policies will get passed anyway. It'll be a wasted two years at least.
Cut the military budget? Good. Maybe if we'd had that trillion in our own bank account, the economy wouldn't be in the dump it is today.
As many of you screaming about how the banks, insurance companies, and
[hr]
lenders have been screwing up for the last few years, maybe letting the Government control them wouldn't be a bad idea. Couldn't be any worse.
Better activists than someone who'll try to overturn Roe v. Wade, force religion into schools, and take who knows what other personal freedons away from us because of their ultra-conservative viewpoints.
And McCain does have experience with a budget? Again, Bush clone. Look at what Dubya's done for this economy over the last 8 years. You think following the Republican ideologies will change that?
http:///forum/post/2782511
* I don't expect everyone to know history. That said, it does seem kind of silly to attack someone's point when you later admit you don't know anything about it. The original point is absolutely correct; reparations after WW1, among several other issues with the Treaty, sent Germany into an abyss.
*The McCain is a clone point is just inaccurate. Again, history shows Obama is "more of a clone" to the Democratic Party. Is it fair to say he is a Carter Clone?
You ask "Why not Obama?" Here is why:
*He has stated he will cut our military's budget; including R&D spending
*He wants to socialize major industries in our Nation, including energy and health care.
*He will appoint activist judges to the SC.
*Based on his associations, his cabinet picks, appointments, and other staff will be a disaster for our Nation.
*He has no experience with budgeting
Hitler would've done what he'd done regardless of what happened after the WW1 treaty. He was into religious genocide. He believed all races besides German were inferior. Reparations had absolutely nothing to do with his mindset.
OK, so Obama is true to his party. You compare him to Carter? Good one. Look, Republicans will vote their party regardless because they will always feel the Democratic Party represents Socialism and taxes. However, you really won't know if Obabma's views will follow that line or not. Republicans are already complaining Bush and McCain are moving away from the conservative views of the Party, even showing liberal tendancies. If McCain does get voted in, what good will he do? If the Democrats have the majority in both the House and Senate, none of his policies will get passed anyway. It'll be a wasted two years at least.
Cut the military budget? Good. Maybe if we'd had that trillion in our own bank account, the economy wouldn't be in the dump it is today.
As many of you screaming about how the banks, insurance companies, and
[hr]
lenders have been screwing up for the last few years, maybe letting the Government control them wouldn't be a bad idea. Couldn't be any worse.
Better activists than someone who'll try to overturn Roe v. Wade, force religion into schools, and take who knows what other personal freedons away from us because of their ultra-conservative viewpoints.
And McCain does have experience with a budget? Again, Bush clone. Look at what Dubya's done for this economy over the last 8 years. You think following the Republican ideologies will change that?
stdreb27
Active Member
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2782988
Hitler would've done what he'd done regardless of what happened after the WW1 treaty. He was into religious genocide. He believed all races besides German were inferior. Reparations had absolutely nothing to do with his mindset.
Cut the military budget? Good. Maybe if we'd had that trillion in our own bank account, the economy wouldn't be in the dump it is today.?
Hitler would have tried, but I seriously doubt he would have been elected in. His whole campaign was predicated on blaming someone (the Jews, blacks gypsies) for the folly they were in today.
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2782988
As many of you screaming about how the banks, insurance companies, and
[hr]
lenders have been screwing up for the last few years, maybe letting the Government control them wouldn't be a bad idea. Couldn't be any worse.?
Yes, it can, look at Europe's economics over the past 10-15 years. They have governments heavily influence the market. (basically what dems and obama want) And you have double digit unemployment, higher inflation, much lower productivity, and nationalized industries, because private companies can hardly afford to operate in that environment.
Then you can look at the current "crisis" that was caused not by the free markets. But by bad government policy that removed risk from the free market.
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2782988
Better activists than someone who'll try to overturn Roe v. Wade, force religion into schools, and take who knows what other personal freedoms away from us because of their ultra-conservative viewpoints.
I'm sorry, but supporting the killing of babies is extreme, not wanting to let woman kill babies is not extreme.
http:///forum/post/2782988
Hitler would've done what he'd done regardless of what happened after the WW1 treaty. He was into religious genocide. He believed all races besides German were inferior. Reparations had absolutely nothing to do with his mindset.
Cut the military budget? Good. Maybe if we'd had that trillion in our own bank account, the economy wouldn't be in the dump it is today.?
Hitler would have tried, but I seriously doubt he would have been elected in. His whole campaign was predicated on blaming someone (the Jews, blacks gypsies) for the folly they were in today.
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2782988
As many of you screaming about how the banks, insurance companies, and
[hr]
lenders have been screwing up for the last few years, maybe letting the Government control them wouldn't be a bad idea. Couldn't be any worse.?
Yes, it can, look at Europe's economics over the past 10-15 years. They have governments heavily influence the market. (basically what dems and obama want) And you have double digit unemployment, higher inflation, much lower productivity, and nationalized industries, because private companies can hardly afford to operate in that environment.
Then you can look at the current "crisis" that was caused not by the free markets. But by bad government policy that removed risk from the free market.
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2782988
Better activists than someone who'll try to overturn Roe v. Wade, force religion into schools, and take who knows what other personal freedoms away from us because of their ultra-conservative viewpoints.
I'm sorry, but supporting the killing of babies is extreme, not wanting to let woman kill babies is not extreme.
reefraff
Active Member
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2782988
Hitler would've done what he'd done regardless of what happened after the WW1 treaty. He was into religious genocide. He believed all races besides German were inferior. Reparations had absolutely nothing to do with his mindset.
OK, so Obama is true to his party. You compare him to Carter? Good one. Look, Republicans will vote their party regardless because they will always feel the Democratic Party represents Socialism and taxes. However, you really won't know if Obabma's views will follow that line or not. Republicans are already complaining Bush and McCain are moving away from the conservative views of the Party, even showing liberal tendancies. If McCain does get voted in, what good will he do? If the Democrats have the majority in both the House and Senate, none of his policies will get passed anyway. It'll be a wasted two years at least.
Cut the military budget? Good. Maybe if we'd had that trillion in our own bank account, the economy wouldn't be in the dump it is today.
As many of you screaming about how the banks, insurance companies, and
[hr]
lenders have been screwing up for the last few years, maybe letting the Government control them wouldn't be a bad idea. Couldn't be any worse.
Better activists than someone who'll try to overturn Roe v. Wade, force religion into schools, and take who knows what other personal freedons away from us because of their ultra-conservative viewpoints.
And McCain does have experience with a budget? Again, Bush clone. Look at what Dubya's done for this economy over the last 8 years. You think following the Republican ideologies will change that?
McCain ultra conservative? Put down the pipe and open a window
http:///forum/post/2782988
Hitler would've done what he'd done regardless of what happened after the WW1 treaty. He was into religious genocide. He believed all races besides German were inferior. Reparations had absolutely nothing to do with his mindset.
OK, so Obama is true to his party. You compare him to Carter? Good one. Look, Republicans will vote their party regardless because they will always feel the Democratic Party represents Socialism and taxes. However, you really won't know if Obabma's views will follow that line or not. Republicans are already complaining Bush and McCain are moving away from the conservative views of the Party, even showing liberal tendancies. If McCain does get voted in, what good will he do? If the Democrats have the majority in both the House and Senate, none of his policies will get passed anyway. It'll be a wasted two years at least.
Cut the military budget? Good. Maybe if we'd had that trillion in our own bank account, the economy wouldn't be in the dump it is today.
As many of you screaming about how the banks, insurance companies, and
[hr]
lenders have been screwing up for the last few years, maybe letting the Government control them wouldn't be a bad idea. Couldn't be any worse.
Better activists than someone who'll try to overturn Roe v. Wade, force religion into schools, and take who knows what other personal freedons away from us because of their ultra-conservative viewpoints.
And McCain does have experience with a budget? Again, Bush clone. Look at what Dubya's done for this economy over the last 8 years. You think following the Republican ideologies will change that?
McCain ultra conservative? Put down the pipe and open a window
rylan1
Active Member
Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2782483
You seem to think not defeating Al Qaeda is an option. It is not. We can't ignore 9-11 and hope it doesn't happen again.
You didn't answer my question; Why is it wasting money for McCain to wage war in Afghanistan, but not when Obama does it? (your words)
I don't think anyone has said anything about wasting money in Afganistan, but actually the opposite... They say we spend more in Iraq in 4 months than the total 7 years we've been in Afghanistan... you talk about we can't ignore 9-11, Iraq had nothing to do with it... And now we hearing that the Taliban has broken off from Al Qaeda... and what do we know about the Taliban... they are the gov't in afghanistan with a direct relationship w/ Al Qaeda... Everything about these wars have been mishandled...
And yes we have been putting the people and region responsible for 9/11 on the backburnner... and you are asking indirectly by voting for McCain ...more of the same.
http:///forum/post/2782483
You seem to think not defeating Al Qaeda is an option. It is not. We can't ignore 9-11 and hope it doesn't happen again.
You didn't answer my question; Why is it wasting money for McCain to wage war in Afghanistan, but not when Obama does it? (your words)
I don't think anyone has said anything about wasting money in Afganistan, but actually the opposite... They say we spend more in Iraq in 4 months than the total 7 years we've been in Afghanistan... you talk about we can't ignore 9-11, Iraq had nothing to do with it... And now we hearing that the Taliban has broken off from Al Qaeda... and what do we know about the Taliban... they are the gov't in afghanistan with a direct relationship w/ Al Qaeda... Everything about these wars have been mishandled...
And yes we have been putting the people and region responsible for 9/11 on the backburnner... and you are asking indirectly by voting for McCain ...more of the same.
rylan1
Active Member
Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2782511
* I don't expect everyone to know history. That said, it does seem kind of silly to attack someone's point when you later admit you don't know anything about it. The original point is absolutely correct; reparations after WW1, among several other issues with the Treaty, sent Germany into an abyss.
*The McCain is a clone point is just inaccurate. Again, history shows Obama is "more of a clone" to the Democratic Party. Is it fair to say he is a Carter Clone?
You ask "Why not Obama?" Here is why:
*He has stated he will cut our military's budget; including R&D spending
*He wants to socialize major industries in our Nation, including energy and health care.
*He will appoint activist judges to the SC.
*Based on his associations, his cabinet picks, appointments, and other staff will be a disaster for our Nation.
*He has no experience with budgeting
If McCain is not a cloan, than he is not doing a good job with the image or perception of his campaign... Only difference is the stress on earmarks and reform in that area...
Everything else is the same... same health care, same foreign policy, same education, etc...
Another difference is he is not able to run on faith... but he got Palin for that.
If I am incorrect... tell specifically how he differs.
http:///forum/post/2782511
* I don't expect everyone to know history. That said, it does seem kind of silly to attack someone's point when you later admit you don't know anything about it. The original point is absolutely correct; reparations after WW1, among several other issues with the Treaty, sent Germany into an abyss.
*The McCain is a clone point is just inaccurate. Again, history shows Obama is "more of a clone" to the Democratic Party. Is it fair to say he is a Carter Clone?
You ask "Why not Obama?" Here is why:
*He has stated he will cut our military's budget; including R&D spending
*He wants to socialize major industries in our Nation, including energy and health care.
*He will appoint activist judges to the SC.
*Based on his associations, his cabinet picks, appointments, and other staff will be a disaster for our Nation.
*He has no experience with budgeting
If McCain is not a cloan, than he is not doing a good job with the image or perception of his campaign... Only difference is the stress on earmarks and reform in that area...
Everything else is the same... same health care, same foreign policy, same education, etc...
Another difference is he is not able to run on faith... but he got Palin for that.
If I am incorrect... tell specifically how he differs.
rylan1
Active Member
Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2782511
* I don't expect everyone to know history. That said, it does seem kind of silly to attack someone's point when you later admit you don't know anything about it. The original point is absolutely correct; reparations after WW1, among several other issues with the Treaty, sent Germany into an abyss.
*The McCain is a clone point is just inaccurate. Again, history shows Obama is "more of a clone" to the Democratic Party. Is it fair to say he is a Carter Clone?
You ask "Why not Obama?" Here is why:
*He has stated he will cut our military's budget; including R&D spending
*He wants to socialize major industries in our Nation, including energy and health care.
*He will appoint activist judges to the SC.
*Based on his associations, his cabinet picks, appointments, and other staff will be a disaster for our Nation.
*He has no experience with budgeting
Didn't Palin institute a "windfall tax" in Alaska?
What is good about McCain's Health plan? He is going to give a $5000 tax credit for families... sent directly to insurance companies...
and then you will have to pay the remaining $7000 out of pocket.
lastly the $5000 you get is going to be from a new tax... that is taxed to businesses.
Who benefits from such a plan... say bye-bye to employee insurance... say hello to more uninsured americans...
Lets talk about cabinet and appointments.... all I have to say is Sarah Palin... and second... look at the campaign...
http:///forum/post/2782511
* I don't expect everyone to know history. That said, it does seem kind of silly to attack someone's point when you later admit you don't know anything about it. The original point is absolutely correct; reparations after WW1, among several other issues with the Treaty, sent Germany into an abyss.
*The McCain is a clone point is just inaccurate. Again, history shows Obama is "more of a clone" to the Democratic Party. Is it fair to say he is a Carter Clone?
You ask "Why not Obama?" Here is why:
*He has stated he will cut our military's budget; including R&D spending
*He wants to socialize major industries in our Nation, including energy and health care.
*He will appoint activist judges to the SC.
*Based on his associations, his cabinet picks, appointments, and other staff will be a disaster for our Nation.
*He has no experience with budgeting
Didn't Palin institute a "windfall tax" in Alaska?
What is good about McCain's Health plan? He is going to give a $5000 tax credit for families... sent directly to insurance companies...
and then you will have to pay the remaining $7000 out of pocket.
lastly the $5000 you get is going to be from a new tax... that is taxed to businesses.
Who benefits from such a plan... say bye-bye to employee insurance... say hello to more uninsured americans...
Lets talk about cabinet and appointments.... all I have to say is Sarah Palin... and second... look at the campaign...
reefraff
Active Member
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2782234
Think you better put on your reading glasses and read it again. Your right-wing, X-Files theory eyes are playing tricks on you.
Maybe you should take a reading comprehension course and re read the front page of the times
http:///forum/post/2782234
Think you better put on your reading glasses and read it again. Your right-wing, X-Files theory eyes are playing tricks on you.
Maybe you should take a reading comprehension course and re read the front page of the times
1journeyman
Active Member
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2782980
PARANOIA WILL DESTROY YA! The terrorists have already won. Look what it's done to you. They don't have to make one more attack on US soil. They can sit back and laugh at us spending trillions looking for these extremists that we'll never be able to completely erradicate. They have you looking constantly over your shoulder, just wondering, when will the next big attack be. As long as you have that mentality, terrorism will always exist. So explain to me how we handle these Westerner's Al-Qaeda is apparently training now in Pakistan? The guy sitting next to you on your plane trip to Belize could have very well been a terrorist. You gonna start second-guessing every person you see on the street? Wondering, "Hmm, that guy looked at me weird. He's carrying a suspicious package. Better call the CIA to have him checked out." Yea, security is priceless. Too bad it's gonna put every American in the poor house because a select few like you think chasing ghosts will make you sleep better at night.
Again, what is the difference between McCain and Obama spending money to hunt terrorists?
Looking over my shoulder??? I live in Iraq. You better believe I look over my shoulder.
The extremists don't want to scare us; they want to kill us.
We handle the western terrorists like any other terrorist. We introduce them to our nearest military weaponry.
Did ghosts attack us on 9-11?
http:///forum/post/2782980
PARANOIA WILL DESTROY YA! The terrorists have already won. Look what it's done to you. They don't have to make one more attack on US soil. They can sit back and laugh at us spending trillions looking for these extremists that we'll never be able to completely erradicate. They have you looking constantly over your shoulder, just wondering, when will the next big attack be. As long as you have that mentality, terrorism will always exist. So explain to me how we handle these Westerner's Al-Qaeda is apparently training now in Pakistan? The guy sitting next to you on your plane trip to Belize could have very well been a terrorist. You gonna start second-guessing every person you see on the street? Wondering, "Hmm, that guy looked at me weird. He's carrying a suspicious package. Better call the CIA to have him checked out." Yea, security is priceless. Too bad it's gonna put every American in the poor house because a select few like you think chasing ghosts will make you sleep better at night.
Again, what is the difference between McCain and Obama spending money to hunt terrorists?
Looking over my shoulder??? I live in Iraq. You better believe I look over my shoulder.
The extremists don't want to scare us; they want to kill us.
We handle the western terrorists like any other terrorist. We introduce them to our nearest military weaponry.
Did ghosts attack us on 9-11?
rylan1
Active Member
Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2783165
Again, what is the difference between McCain and Obama spending money to hunt terrorists?
Looking over my shoulder??? I live in Iraq. You better believe I look over my shoulder.
The extremists don't want to scare us; they want to kill us.
We handle the western terrorists like any other terrorist. We introduce them to our nearest military weaponry.
Did ghosts attack us on 9-11?
Did Iraqis?
http:///forum/post/2783165
Again, what is the difference between McCain and Obama spending money to hunt terrorists?
Looking over my shoulder??? I live in Iraq. You better believe I look over my shoulder.
The extremists don't want to scare us; they want to kill us.
We handle the western terrorists like any other terrorist. We introduce them to our nearest military weaponry.
Did ghosts attack us on 9-11?
Did Iraqis?
1journeyman
Active Member
Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2783049
I don't think anyone has said anything about wasting money in Afganistan, ... you talk about we can't ignore 9-11, Iraq had nothing to do with it... ...
And yes we have been putting the people and region responsible for 9/11 on the backburnner... and you are asking indirectly by voting for McCain ...more of the same.
Rylan, reread Bionic's post before saying no one has commented on wasting money in Afghanistan. That's exactly what I was referring too.
Iraq did not having anything to do with 9-11. That's irrelevant. Al Qaeda has been in Iraq for years now fighting us and we're killing them on a daily basis.
Obama will cut/run and leave the region to Al Qaeda...
http:///forum/post/2783049
I don't think anyone has said anything about wasting money in Afganistan, ... you talk about we can't ignore 9-11, Iraq had nothing to do with it... ...
And yes we have been putting the people and region responsible for 9/11 on the backburnner... and you are asking indirectly by voting for McCain ...more of the same.
Rylan, reread Bionic's post before saying no one has commented on wasting money in Afghanistan. That's exactly what I was referring too.
Iraq did not having anything to do with 9-11. That's irrelevant. Al Qaeda has been in Iraq for years now fighting us and we're killing them on a daily basis.
Obama will cut/run and leave the region to Al Qaeda...
stdreb27
Active Member
Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2783069
Lets talk about cabinet and appointments.... all I have to say is Sarah Palin... and second... look at the campaign...
So Palin is worse that say, bill ayers, "rev. Wright, the countrywide guy he had (for a short period of time) vetting his veeps, Biden, I could go on for a while. This is just plain illogical.
http:///forum/post/2783069
Lets talk about cabinet and appointments.... all I have to say is Sarah Palin... and second... look at the campaign...
So Palin is worse that say, bill ayers, "rev. Wright, the countrywide guy he had (for a short period of time) vetting his veeps, Biden, I could go on for a while. This is just plain illogical.
bionicarm
Active Member
Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2783177
Rylan, reread Bionic's post before saying no one has commented on wasting money in Afghanistan. That's exactly what I was referring too.
Iraq did not having anything to do with 9-11. That's irrelevant. Al Qaeda has been in Iraq for years now fighting us and we're killing them on a daily basis.
Obama will cut/run and leave the region to Al Qaeda...
What guarantees do you have the next attack will be done by Al-Qaeda? Why not Taliban, Shiites, Iranians, Pakistanies, Russian coverts, crazed Venezuelans hired by Chavez? Half the world despises the US.
Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11? That's irrelevent?
Then why are we still there? You're the one making the statements we weren't there to just get rid of Hussein. You yourself stated that YOU had proof that Al-Qaeda were hiding out in Iraq, and one of the Iraqi dissidents (Shiites, Kurds, whichever the one's we're fighting) was supporting them from the onset. Now all of a sudden they had nothing to do with it? Good. Your surge worked. We've done our job. GET OUT NOW.
I bet you're looking over your shoulder. You should. One of your beloved Iraqis you so desperately love to help and save would just as easily slit your throat if he knew he could gain something for doing it.
http:///forum/post/2783177
Rylan, reread Bionic's post before saying no one has commented on wasting money in Afghanistan. That's exactly what I was referring too.
Iraq did not having anything to do with 9-11. That's irrelevant. Al Qaeda has been in Iraq for years now fighting us and we're killing them on a daily basis.
Obama will cut/run and leave the region to Al Qaeda...
What guarantees do you have the next attack will be done by Al-Qaeda? Why not Taliban, Shiites, Iranians, Pakistanies, Russian coverts, crazed Venezuelans hired by Chavez? Half the world despises the US.
Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11? That's irrelevent?
I bet you're looking over your shoulder. You should. One of your beloved Iraqis you so desperately love to help and save would just as easily slit your throat if he knew he could gain something for doing it.
bionicarm
Active Member
Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2783181
So Palin is worse that say, bill ayers, "rev. Wright, the countrywide guy he had (for a short period of time) vetting his veeps, Biden, I could go on for a while. This is just plain illogical.
So Obama is worse than McCain, who is a close associate of the Keating 5, who were responsible for our last economic crisis, John Hagee, the so called rev. that said that the Katrina victims deserved what they got because they believe in homosexuality, the known crime bosses that were and probably still associated with his wife's businesses, the crime ring that helps run the various Indian Reservation Casinos he backs, I could go on for a while...
http:///forum/post/2783181
So Palin is worse that say, bill ayers, "rev. Wright, the countrywide guy he had (for a short period of time) vetting his veeps, Biden, I could go on for a while. This is just plain illogical.
So Obama is worse than McCain, who is a close associate of the Keating 5, who were responsible for our last economic crisis, John Hagee, the so called rev. that said that the Katrina victims deserved what they got because they believe in homosexuality, the known crime bosses that were and probably still associated with his wife's businesses, the crime ring that helps run the various Indian Reservation Casinos he backs, I could go on for a while...
stdreb27
Active Member
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2783193
So Obama is worse than McCain, who is a close associate of the Keating 5, who were responsible for our last economic crisis, John Hagee, the so called rev. that said that the Katrina victims deserved what they got because they believe in homosexuality, the known crime bosses that were and probably still associated with his wife's businesses, the crime ring that helps run the various Indian Reservation Casinos he backs, I could go on for a while...
umm, yes. for several reasons, 1. hagee didn't marry mccain. And wasn't his pastor for what was it 10 years. And how is what hagee any different than Michael more and a few other dems saying the hurricane proves there is a god, when Gustov came rolling in during the rep convention. 2 If you want to talk conspiracy theories we can talk the casino, and his wife's business, (which he is prenupped out of) and 3. A friggen left winger who prosecuted the keating 5, totally absolved McCain.
http:///forum/post/2783193
So Obama is worse than McCain, who is a close associate of the Keating 5, who were responsible for our last economic crisis, John Hagee, the so called rev. that said that the Katrina victims deserved what they got because they believe in homosexuality, the known crime bosses that were and probably still associated with his wife's businesses, the crime ring that helps run the various Indian Reservation Casinos he backs, I could go on for a while...
umm, yes. for several reasons, 1. hagee didn't marry mccain. And wasn't his pastor for what was it 10 years. And how is what hagee any different than Michael more and a few other dems saying the hurricane proves there is a god, when Gustov came rolling in during the rep convention. 2 If you want to talk conspiracy theories we can talk the casino, and his wife's business, (which he is prenupped out of) and 3. A friggen left winger who prosecuted the keating 5, totally absolved McCain.
1journeyman
Active Member
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2783188
What guarantees do you have the next attack will be done by Al-Qaeda? Why not Taliban, Shiites, Iranians, Pakistanies, Russian coverts, crazed Venezuelans hired by Chavez? Half the world despises the US.
Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11? That's irrelevent?
Then why are we still there? You're the one making the statements we weren't there to just get rid of Hussein. You yourself stated that YOU had proof that Al-Qaeda were hiding out in Iraq, and one of the Iraqi dissidents (Shiites, Kurds, whichever the one's we're fighting) was supporting them from the onset. Now all of a sudden they had nothing to do with it? Good. Your surge worked. We've done our job. GET OUT NOW.
I bet you're looking over your shoulder. You should. One of your beloved Iraqis you so desperately love to help and save would just as easily slit your throat if he knew he could gain something for doing it.
* I have no guarantees. The only thing I know is a preemptive doctrine puts the loons on alert that they better be willing to reap the benefits of an armed assault if they attack us.
*Al Qeada is in Iraq and has been here for years fighting us. That was my point, and it is what I said. That is why we need to be here today. Please post the link to the comment you are referencing....
*Not all of the locals are good guys. No question about that. Of course, you could say the same thing about some of the locals in San Antonio...
http:///forum/post/2783188
What guarantees do you have the next attack will be done by Al-Qaeda? Why not Taliban, Shiites, Iranians, Pakistanies, Russian coverts, crazed Venezuelans hired by Chavez? Half the world despises the US.
Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11? That's irrelevent?
I bet you're looking over your shoulder. You should. One of your beloved Iraqis you so desperately love to help and save would just as easily slit your throat if he knew he could gain something for doing it.
* I have no guarantees. The only thing I know is a preemptive doctrine puts the loons on alert that they better be willing to reap the benefits of an armed assault if they attack us.
*Al Qeada is in Iraq and has been here for years fighting us. That was my point, and it is what I said. That is why we need to be here today. Please post the link to the comment you are referencing....
*Not all of the locals are good guys. No question about that. Of course, you could say the same thing about some of the locals in San Antonio...
stdreb27
Active Member
Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2783210
*Not all of the locals are good guys. No question about that. Of course, you could say the same thing about some of the locals in San Antonio...
They are all mexicans, they are ok. It is the stinking firefighters you have to watch out for.
http:///forum/post/2783210
*Not all of the locals are good guys. No question about that. Of course, you could say the same thing about some of the locals in San Antonio...
They are all mexicans, they are ok. It is the stinking firefighters you have to watch out for.
bionicarm
Active Member
Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2783214
They are all mexicans, they are ok. It is the stinking firefighters you have to watch out for.
Donde? Que pasa aqui? They just did a poll here and found 1 in 3 homes in San Antonio speak Spanish. Mine isn't one of them.
I don't get the firefighter jab. You talking about the three paramedics that left the girl dying on the side of the road because they figured since her head was split open, she was a lost cause?
http:///forum/post/2783214
They are all mexicans, they are ok. It is the stinking firefighters you have to watch out for.
Donde? Que pasa aqui? They just did a poll here and found 1 in 3 homes in San Antonio speak Spanish. Mine isn't one of them.
I don't get the firefighter jab. You talking about the three paramedics that left the girl dying on the side of the road because they figured since her head was split open, she was a lost cause?
stdreb27
Active Member
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2783238
Donde? Que pasa aqui? They just did a poll here and found 1 in 3 homes in San Antonio speak Spanish. Mine isn't one of them.
I don't get the firefighter jab. You talking about the three paramedics that left the girl dying on the side of the road because they figured since her head was split open, she was a lost cause?
Sorry, I was thinking about rotarymagic at the moment. For some reason I was thinking he was the person that journey was refering to. Forgot you lived in San Antonio too. Only 1 in 3. I would have thought that number would be higher. I guess that doesn't mean all the mexicans that didn't bother teaching their kids spanish.
http:///forum/post/2783238
Donde? Que pasa aqui? They just did a poll here and found 1 in 3 homes in San Antonio speak Spanish. Mine isn't one of them.
I don't get the firefighter jab. You talking about the three paramedics that left the girl dying on the side of the road because they figured since her head was split open, she was a lost cause?
Sorry, I was thinking about rotarymagic at the moment. For some reason I was thinking he was the person that journey was refering to. Forgot you lived in San Antonio too. Only 1 in 3. I would have thought that number would be higher. I guess that doesn't mean all the mexicans that didn't bother teaching their kids spanish.
rylan1
Active Member
Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2783177
Rylan, reread Bionic's post before saying no one has commented on wasting money in Afghanistan. That's exactly what I was referring too.
Iraq did not having anything to do with 9-11. That's irrelevant. Al Qaeda has been in Iraq for years now fighting us and we're killing them on a daily basis.
Obama will cut/run and leave the region to Al Qaeda...
its not irrelevant... because it goes back to the orginal decision of how we got there, and if we are any better off in the fight against terrorism... this is not cut and run... but is based on the war we should have been engaged in... we spent less in 7 years looking for Bin Laden and fighting Taliban and Al Qaeda in Afganistan than we do for 4 months in the war in Iraq... Iraq was supposed to be a cake walk... in and out.... isn't this what McCain said... also something about we can muddle are way through Afghanistan.
So if Bionic said wasted money if afghanistan ... I think more of an effort needs to be placed there... to go after 9-11 terrorist and the drug networks that operate there...
http:///forum/post/2783177
Rylan, reread Bionic's post before saying no one has commented on wasting money in Afghanistan. That's exactly what I was referring too.
Iraq did not having anything to do with 9-11. That's irrelevant. Al Qaeda has been in Iraq for years now fighting us and we're killing them on a daily basis.
Obama will cut/run and leave the region to Al Qaeda...
its not irrelevant... because it goes back to the orginal decision of how we got there, and if we are any better off in the fight against terrorism... this is not cut and run... but is based on the war we should have been engaged in... we spent less in 7 years looking for Bin Laden and fighting Taliban and Al Qaeda in Afganistan than we do for 4 months in the war in Iraq... Iraq was supposed to be a cake walk... in and out.... isn't this what McCain said... also something about we can muddle are way through Afghanistan.
So if Bionic said wasted money if afghanistan ... I think more of an effort needs to be placed there... to go after 9-11 terrorist and the drug networks that operate there...