Inappropriate? rated E for everyone

dogstar

dogstar

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Originally Posted by KerriAnn
also, another thing to keep in mind - you're going to lose.
I dont know. Your 1st amendment right is not a battle you should fight for ? Whats next, lose your freedom of religion, voteing rights. What IS worth fighting for ?
The statement that that shirt is saying is unfortunately, a political statement. IMO, It is all about left vs. the right here.
Many will oppose anyone rights to speak politicaly if they speak against what they beleive.
Keep in mind that the superintendent is either appointed by politicians ( school board, ect. ) or elected ( not sure how it works in Indiana ) and most likely has higher hopes to continue his/her political career.
If you wear that shirt because you beleive in protecting the enviroment and " want to say so ", then there will be many that will oppose that because they dont want to protect the enviroment for various reasons.
At such a young age ( no disrespect ) dont let this school system teach you to cave in to political powers that are against your political beliefs.
What " message " do you think this superintendent wants to say to the students and community buy trying to silence yours ?
 
jerthunter

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I cannot see how this would be considerded anything political. It's just a funny shirt that someone didn't like. Unfortunately that someone was in the position to tell you not to wear it. You probably only made it harder for yourself by putting the shirt back on later while it was still fresh in his memory. Now he is going to be watching you, waiting for you to do something else so he can get you into trouble. While 'fighting for your rights' sounds fun and good you might want to consider different scenerios. Sure you could win, your parents could back you up and he MIGHT apologize to you, or atleast leave you alone. Probably the most likely scenerio would be that you get talked to again and eventually your parents side with the school and tell you not to wear the shirt again to school. Of course you could push the issue, and say 'there is nothing in the dress code against it' and you may be right, so they may decide to alter the dress code. That is the scenerio that would worry me. When school boards have to alter the dress code the issue of school uniforms almost always comes up.
I am still amazed about how this shirt could be considered political...
I think he must just be an alien from Uranus, or maybe he is into astronomy and thinks the shirt gives a bad representation of Uranus since Uranus is huge!
 
miaheatlvr

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Do you know how we put all these so called controversial t-shirts or whatever? SCHOOL UNIFORMS, No more problems like this and everybody is the same. Clothes labels and controversial clothing are obsolete. I tell you what, it would have made mine and my parents life alot easier buying all of those Ralph Lauren, Aca Joe, Francois Girbaud clothes and B.S. in Fairfield County Connecticut.
 
groupergenius

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Politics.....huh?? I don't see any political message in that shirt.
It's simply conveying a message with a play on words to make it provocative.
 
reefraff

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Read your handbook before you do anything to assert your freedom of expression. The courts have ruled schools do have the right to remove or ban anything (including students) that are considered disrupted to the education process. Guess who gets to make that decision? Make sure this is the battle you really want to fight.
There are also some school districts that have prohibited shirts and hats with any messages on them, thats why you should read the handbook first. Your shirt seems harmless enough but where do they draw the line and who gets to decide what is political/controversial?
 
dogstar

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Originally Posted by GrouperGenius
Politics.....huh?? I don't see any political message in that shirt.
It's simply conveying a message with a play on words to make it provocative.
" a message " Right. Saying what ? " keep the planet clean its not uranus "
If you dont think that that nowdays, that a message about the enviroment could be considered a political statement, then so be it. You may also have reasons why you say that.
But HowardJ would have to say to us if he/she wears the shirt because the message is about keeping the planet clean or just because he thinks its funny because of the reference to uranus, and then again, the superintendent would need to say why he opposed it also. That has not been stated.
As I said in my earlier post, "" If you wear that shirt because you beleive in protecting the enviroment and " want to say so ", ""
 
joebob7

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Wear it inside out a few times.
SICK IT TO THE MAN!
I had a friend who got busted by a crazy conservative teacher for wearing a shirt that said "Cheney eats puppies and kittens" but she went to the principle and he said it was ridiculous and took away the pinkslip.
 
joebob7

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Originally Posted by Dogstar
What " message " do you think this superintendent wants to say to the students and community buy trying to silence yours ?
Maybe he thinks uranus is clean?
 
groupergenius

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Originally Posted by Dogstar
" a message " Right. Saying what ? " keep the planet clean its not uranus "
If you dont think that that nowdays, that a message about the enviroment could be considered a political statement, then so be it. You may also have reasons why you say that.
But HowardJ would have to say to us if he/she wears the shirt because the message is about keeping the planet clean or just because he thinks its funny because of the reference to uranus, and then again, the superintendent would need to say why he opposed it also. That has not been stated.
As I said in my earlier post, "" If you wear that shirt because you beleive in protecting the enviroment and " want to say so ", ""
So, I assume you are reffering to the liberal left's attempts to create a mind scare in the general public over global warming or such through Al Gore.
Do you honestly think that the conservative right doesn't care about the planet?
Being a die-hard Republican myself, I care deeply about our enviroment. Unfortunately the left is trying to portray a different picture for their own political gains.
Just think of the 2 different descriptions.....Liberal....Conservative.
Big apology to HowardJ for trampling your thread young man. But if you can PM me with a source for one of those shirts...I want one.
 
dogstar

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Originally Posted by GrouperGenius
So, I assume you are reffering to the liberal left's attempts to create a mind scare in the general public over global warming or such through Al Gore.
Do you honestly think that the conservative right doesn't care about the planet?
Being a die-hard Republican myself, I care deeply about our enviroment. Unfortunately the left is trying to portray a different picture for their own political gains.
Just think of the 2 different descriptions.....Liberal....Conservative.
Big apology to HowardJ for trampling your thread young man. But if you can PM me with a source for one of those shirts...I want one.

As I said, " You may also have reasons why you say that. "
BTW, I never said that one side stands for what. You just did. All I said is that the issue could be political.
 
zeke92

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Originally Posted by KerriAnn
um I'm gonna have to say its not worth it. it's just a t shirt and doesn't seem worth the hassle/grief involved. why pick a fight that's unnecessary???
wow...freedom? just a thought. but you go ahead. do what they tel ya, live in fear of the rules like 90% of the world, never stand up for anything. you will lead a normal life somewhat i suppose. but standing up for freedom is worth it if you ask me.
 
ice4ice

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Here we go again with these schools nowadays. Me - I would keep wearing the shirt. The teachers got a kick out of it. The Principal never said anything to you before and suddenly he has a problem with it and the school superintendent has a problem with it ?!?! WOW - even he has alot of time on his hands ...
OK - all schools do list that no offensive or deragatory images are allowed in schools in the handbooks. In your case - the shirt is NOT offensive !! Obviously the principal is reading into it too much - so has the superintedent of schools. They need to stop reading between the lines. Heh - if I was a parent and they call me in for a parent conference regarding the shirt, I'd go in wearing the same shirt myself.
However - I do like Darthtang's responses.
 
1journeyman

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The shirt is not a "political" statment, it's a crude play on words. It will be deemed "disruptive" and banned from being worn.
Like I said, is this really a battle you want to fight? Personally I think you've got better things to do in school...
 
bjoe23

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Originally Posted by alix2.0
... like throwing spitwads at the back of the superintendent's head

sorry 1journeyman...
 
teen

teen

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i have a shirt that says
"community college, easier than regular college". i had an english professor that got mad every time i wore it. i wouldn't stop wearing it though because he was the only professor who said anything about it. all my friends and classmates laughed at the shirt, especially once he pointed it out.
and another shirt i have that a lot of people dont like has a picture of a fireman thats says "where my hose at?". i continue to wear that as well.
my advice is to take darthtangs advise. wear the shirt if YOU like it, and if he says something again, bring up the fact that his suit is offensive to you, and is basically him boasting his higher economic status.
 
kerriann

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Originally Posted by zeke92
wow...freedom? just a thought. but you go ahead. do what they tel ya, live in fear of the rules like 90% of the world, never stand up for anything. you will lead a normal life somewhat i suppose. but standing up for freedom is worth it if you ask me.

Dude, it's just a t shirt. School says you can't wear it, you don't wear it, no big deal. It's one thing to fight for something you believe in but it's another to fight just for the sake of the fight. What if I wanted to run around the office in a bathing suit all day do you really think that would fly??? There are rules for a reason and while they may not always seem fair they're there for a reason. You're taking this so much further than it needs to be or is even worth. Nobody likes being told to live within a set of boundaries but sometime in life you have to learn the meaning of the word "no".
 
natemd

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If you really want to do something about it, take the high road. Organize a day to pick up trash around the community and call it "Keep the Planet Clean" Day. Its a win win situation. You draw attention to the fact that you couldn't wear the shirt because you, your principals and everyone else knows why the day is called that name and the enviroment wins because you are actually standing up for what the shirt says. Plus there is no way they would tell you that you can't organize the event.
 
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