Interesting read of an interview with an Arab

[eugenez_21]

I can see U.S. selling a few missiles to isreali and isreali taking the sites out in no time at all when the get the news that its not just for nuklear energy. Once the sities are taken out the west will start to relaxe and iran still will be majorly Pissed and go buy a few nukes from russia and send over some of them over here and wish they dont get intersepted. Then its going to be a WAR ON IRAN so like i keep saying take em all out NOW!

 

[eugenez_21]

Here is the place in the bible i was talking about 1 Epistle to the THESSALONIANS Chapter 5 verse 3= " For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape."
Im thinking that isreali will disarm there nuke sites and the west will relaxe" For when they shall say peace and safety" and then iran will have something up their sleave and go buy some nukes from russia and then " then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape."
this makes sence to me and it very possible in the near future so why risk it.

 

[darthtang aw]

I have doubts something like that would happen, Maybe a terrorist organization would buy a nuke, but history has shown us countries want the ability to produce them. Nukes are expensive to purchase. You use them then what, you are out of nukes and the people you attacked will have unlimited nuclear resources to attack you back and decimate your country. It is much more conducive to a country's future to be able to make them. No country wages war without the thought of winning the war involved. A nuclear attack with purchased nukes would not be a winnable war for any country.
The head of Iran may be a nut case, but he isn't completely stupid.

 

[eugenez_21]

true but still a lunched nuke by a terrer organisasion is a big threth or even if iran lunched one or two and then they can get backed up by russia. And by saying iran has a trick up its sleave i mean where did all the wmd go that are from iraq just thinking

 

[darthtang aw]

doubt they went to Iran, Hussein would have sooner sent them to Syria. As for Russia backing up Iran, doubt it...Putin isn't stupid either, he knows a nuclear war would end his power quickly...especially since a good amount of our nukes are targeting Russia still.

 

[eugenez_21]

I know that Putin never was or is stupid. I pesonaly think most of their nukes are targeting the U.S. still and they probly have the same about of nukes as we do cuse they spent a crazy amout on millatary. And what do u mean by end his power quickly

 

[seasalt101]

i still say nukem and send a major message that the united states aint taken any more crap from a country the size of utah, all other terrorist nations will change there ways after they see a dozen mushroom clouds from what once was a poweful nation in that region...tobin

 

[team2jndd]

Originally Posted by seasalt101
i still say nukem and send a major message that the united states aint taken any more crap from a country the size of utah, all other terrorist nations will change there ways after they see a dozen mushroom clouds from what once was a poweful nation in that region...tobin
Since when are they afraid to die?

 

[darthtang aw]

Originally Posted by eugenez_21
I know that Putin never was or is stupid. I pesonaly think most of their nukes are targeting the U.S. still and they probly have the same about of nukes as we do cuse they spent a crazy amout on millatary. And what do u mean by end his power quickly
Russian is usually backed by various countries in the EU, That would change...Russia would be perceived as a world threat and lose all aid and funding from outside sources...you would then have Putin removed from power, either by force or through elections. Russia is not capable of sustain itself on it's current economy, and that is what Itr would have to do if it went that rouite. This is the number one reason they are selling Nuclear info to anyone that wants it....Military is their main form of income with the largest net profit.

 

[jmick]

Originally Posted by seasalt101
i still say nukem and send a major message that the united states aint taken any more crap from a country the size of utah, all other terrorist nations will change there ways after they see a dozen mushroom clouds from what once was a poweful nation in that region...tobin
It'd probably end up make them even more resolved and hateful and would probably increase their funding from other parts of the world, which would compromise our safety even more. Americans would be the targets of hate and violence in most of the world if we were to do something like this. I'm not sure about you, but I like to go on nice vacations overseas and meet new people and cultures.

 

[seasalt101]

Originally Posted by Jmick
It's probably end up make them even more resolved and hateful and would probably increase their funding from other parts of the world, which would compromise our safety even more. Americans would be the targets of hate and violence in most of the world if we were to do something like this. I'm not sure about you, but I like to go on nice vacations overseas and meet new people and cultures.
it's not safe oversees now, they do hate us now and if we eliminate them it would be impossible for them to hate us more they would not be here like i said before i know this is extreme but us sending hershey bars and coca-cola isn't going to change the way they feel about us they are taught from birth to hate us...tobin

 

[jmick]

Originally Posted by seasalt101
it's not safe oversees now, they do hate us now and if we eliminate them it would be impossible for them to hate us more they would not be here like i said before i know this is extreme but us sending hershey bars and coca-cola isn't going to change the way they feel about us they are taught from birth to hate us...tobin

The problem is if you cut off one head then there are others waiting to pop up. There are Islamic militants all over the world...middle-east, africa, europe, asia and the US. If they have funding the can sponser terrorist attacts againist the US and if we were to do something like Nuke an entire region they'd recieve a lot of money from sympathizers...especially in Saudi Arabia.

 

[seasalt101]

i don't know the whole thing is sickening to me ever since 9/11 i can't trust anyone from over there anymore...tobin

 

[eugenez_21]

just nuke them and let them know who they are messing with and quite trying to fight the war in iraq were basacly fighting the "civilians" right now. They smile nicly at a U.S. soilder then when the soilder turnes the other direction the "civilian" shoots em. We dont know who are the good civilians and who are the terreist dressed up like a civilian it going to be very tiring to fight terrism the way the war in IRAQ is going (but there has been a lot of progress). Just nuke iran and the other a** ***** will think twice before planning each act.

 

[eugenez_21]

Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
Russian is usually backed by various countries in the EU, That would change...Russia would be perceived as a world threat and lose all aid and funding from outside sources...you would then have Putin removed from power, either by force or through elections. Russia is not capable of sustain itself on it's current economy, and that is what Itr would have to do if it went that rouite. This is the number one reason they are selling Nuclear info to anyone that wants it....Military is their main form of income with the largest net profit.

MAYBE he would get kicked but i dout it his term is coming to an end and he did ALOT of good for russia. Most of the ppl like em. During the break of the cominist a lot of ppl in russia didnt get paided now 2 billion more ppl get a steady pay check under Putin. They wouldnt kick him out by force. He has done so much for the ppl and the economy and the economy has improved greatly under him. And when his terms end its 90 % that the ppl will pick some one from his party that will contine his plans.

 

[darthtang aw]

Originally Posted by eugenez_21
just nuke them and let them know who they are messing with and quite trying to fight the war in iraq were basacly fighting the "civilians" right now. They smile nicly at a U.S. soilder then when the soilder turnes the other direction the "civilian" shoots em. We dont know who are the good civilians and who are the terreist dressed up like a civilian it going to be very tiring to fight terrism the way the war in IRAQ is going (but there has been a lot of progress). Just nuke iran and the other a** ***** will think twice before planning each act.

I don't know about that...How long after the crusades has it been and the Muslim extremists still refer to that time as for the root cause of their hatred......The crusades were a bloody violent time and it didn't stop them from fighting back, I doubt mass genocide in a country would do the same. Everytime Muslims have been massacred somewhere there has ALWAYS been a reaction towards that region...I can just imagine the size of the reaction if we decided to launch a nuclear attack on a Country where the majority just want to live out their lives and careless out about the west or middle east relationships.

 

[eugenez_21]

Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
I don't know about that...How long after the crusades has it been and the Muslim extremists still refer to that time as for the root cause of their hatred......The crusades were a bloody violent time and it didn't stop them from fighting back, I doubt mass genocide in a country would do the same. Everytime Muslims have been massacred somewhere there has ALWAYS been a reaction towards that region...I can just imagine the size of the reaction if we decided to launch a nuclear attack on a Country where the majority just want to live out their lives and careless out about the west or middle east relationships.
u do have a point true most of the ppl in iran dont like the gov. and want more freedom accourding to the media. then take out the nuke sites and the gov but dont invade like with iraq but mixed inside the civilians there are the terrist

 

[darthtang aw]

As for how to deal with Terrorists mixing with civilians...I have no solution..Other than maybe how Isreal occasionally handles it. If a terrorist blows themselves up to kill isreali citizens, the military goes and knocks down the house and confiscates all posessions from the family of the terrorist. Maybe once they learn that their actions may cement their induction to heaven but will burden the lives of their family they may stop....But I doubt it. maybe give them a political voice in government like Hamas received...not sure

 

[eugenez_21]

iteresting never heard of that how do they know who it waz if they blow them self up

 

[darthtang aw]

Normally someone recognizes the person or a "group" takes credit for the action and martyrs the terrorists name.