Irvin HOF Bound!!!
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emmitt2
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Originally Posted by ruaround
youre soo right... i am jealous of people like you emmitt... you are exactly what i want to be... a early 90's band wagon jumper and a fan of a team that hasnt done jack in the last 10 years... and an admirer of a person that uses blow...
I'm band wagon?? Heres a pic of the Dorsett and White jerseys that i wore in the early 80's as a kid and still have. I took it a few months ago when you implied bandwagon and then backed off when i said i could provide them.
Lets see your bucs jerseys from before they won the superbowl ***)
youre soo right... i am jealous of people like you emmitt... you are exactly what i want to be... a early 90's band wagon jumper and a fan of a team that hasnt done jack in the last 10 years... and an admirer of a person that uses blow...
I'm band wagon?? Heres a pic of the Dorsett and White jerseys that i wore in the early 80's as a kid and still have. I took it a few months ago when you implied bandwagon and then backed off when i said i could provide them.
Lets see your bucs jerseys from before they won the superbowl ***)
emmitt2
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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
Wow, I haven't watched the news today. The President did cocaine and used Prostitutes? I missed that headline...
Now, as for reading comprehension.. That implies "comprehending" the meaning of a written text. You've said all Cowboys fans don't care about What MI did off the field. You said that he grew up in a bad neighborhood and therefore we can't judge his actions until we've "lived in his shoes". you said he's made mistakes with drugs.
Mistakes? A mistake is answering A on a test when you meant B. How do you mistakenly buy drugs, call a hooker, and end up in a hotel?
So what EXACTLY did I not comprehend in your texts? you clearly said We can't judge MI because of where he came from... Since you think I lack reading comprehension skills spell it out for me.
Clearly!
as i posted in the Bush thread, Bush stated he has not use cocaine since 1974 but when asked about prior to 1974 he said he will not answer that for fear kids will think it is ok to do what he did when he was young. Hmmmm, probably didnt use cocaine. Also, Irvin has never been arrested for putting innocent peoples lives at risk by driving drunk like the President has!
Wow, I haven't watched the news today. The President did cocaine and used Prostitutes? I missed that headline...
Now, as for reading comprehension.. That implies "comprehending" the meaning of a written text. You've said all Cowboys fans don't care about What MI did off the field. You said that he grew up in a bad neighborhood and therefore we can't judge his actions until we've "lived in his shoes". you said he's made mistakes with drugs.
Mistakes? A mistake is answering A on a test when you meant B. How do you mistakenly buy drugs, call a hooker, and end up in a hotel?
So what EXACTLY did I not comprehend in your texts? you clearly said We can't judge MI because of where he came from... Since you think I lack reading comprehension skills spell it out for me.
Clearly!
as i posted in the Bush thread, Bush stated he has not use cocaine since 1974 but when asked about prior to 1974 he said he will not answer that for fear kids will think it is ok to do what he did when he was young. Hmmmm, probably didnt use cocaine. Also, Irvin has never been arrested for putting innocent peoples lives at risk by driving drunk like the President has!
ruaround
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lol... i have a Nickerson, Brooks and an Alstott Jersey that are all Orange and White (i have a Sapp, Brooks and Williams in the New Colors)... i have atleast 6 shirts that are orange and white, a starter jacket and numerous collectables and hats that are all orange and white... so no i didnt jump the Bucs band wagon after the '02 season...
emmitt2
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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
Wow, I haven't watched the news today. The President did cocaine and used Prostitutes? I missed that headline...
Now, as for reading comprehension.. That implies "comprehending" the meaning of a written text. You've said all Cowboys fans don't care about What MI did off the field. You said that he grew up in a bad neighborhood and therefore we can't judge his actions until we've "lived in his shoes". you said he's made mistakes with drugs.
Mistakes? A mistake is answering A on a test when you meant B. How do you mistakenly buy drugs, call a hooker, and end up in a hotel?
So what EXACTLY did I not comprehend in your texts? you clearly said We can't judge MI because of where he came from... Since you think I lack reading comprehension skills spell it out for me.
Again, its reading comprehension
You said that i said that all people from bad neighborhoods use drugs and prostitutes. Oceanists said he didnt see that and you said reread my posts. My posts never said that, they said that taking 53 people from bad neighborhoods and expecting them to be "above reproach" because they can play a sport will almost always disappoint you. But apparently even after rereading the posts, your reading comprehension skills still dont see that. Clear enough
Wow, I haven't watched the news today. The President did cocaine and used Prostitutes? I missed that headline...
Now, as for reading comprehension.. That implies "comprehending" the meaning of a written text. You've said all Cowboys fans don't care about What MI did off the field. You said that he grew up in a bad neighborhood and therefore we can't judge his actions until we've "lived in his shoes". you said he's made mistakes with drugs.
Mistakes? A mistake is answering A on a test when you meant B. How do you mistakenly buy drugs, call a hooker, and end up in a hotel?
So what EXACTLY did I not comprehend in your texts? you clearly said We can't judge MI because of where he came from... Since you think I lack reading comprehension skills spell it out for me.
Again, its reading comprehension
You said that i said that all people from bad neighborhoods use drugs and prostitutes. Oceanists said he didnt see that and you said reread my posts. My posts never said that, they said that taking 53 people from bad neighborhoods and expecting them to be "above reproach" because they can play a sport will almost always disappoint you. But apparently even after rereading the posts, your reading comprehension skills still dont see that. Clear enough
emmitt2
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Originally Posted by ruaround
lol... i have a Nickerson, Brooks and an Alstott Jersey that are all Orange and White (i have a Sapp, Brooks and Williams in the New Colors)... i have atleast 6 shirts that are orange and white, a starter jacket and numerous collectables and hats that are all orange and white... so no i didnt jump the Bucs band wagon after the '02 season...
No, i'd guess aroung 2000-2001
Really, then lets see a pic of a Bucs jersey from someone who was not on the 02 team ***)
You loved Wilder, Bell and Jimmy giles so much as we know from your posts. We also know from your posts that you think they are were as good as Emmitt and Irvin so surely you have their Jerseys right?? Lets see a pic of a Jersey from someone who played for the Sucs from 1980-1995. You were born in 1973 so surely such a bigtime,
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lifetime Sucs fan owned at least 1 Jersey for his team from the age of 7-22
lol... i have a Nickerson, Brooks and an Alstott Jersey that are all Orange and White (i have a Sapp, Brooks and Williams in the New Colors)... i have atleast 6 shirts that are orange and white, a starter jacket and numerous collectables and hats that are all orange and white... so no i didnt jump the Bucs band wagon after the '02 season...
No, i'd guess aroung 2000-2001
Really, then lets see a pic of a Bucs jersey from someone who was not on the 02 team ***)
You loved Wilder, Bell and Jimmy giles so much as we know from your posts. We also know from your posts that you think they are were as good as Emmitt and Irvin so surely you have their Jerseys right?? Lets see a pic of a Jersey from someone who played for the Sucs from 1980-1995. You were born in 1973 so surely such a bigtime,
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lifetime Sucs fan owned at least 1 Jersey for his team from the age of 7-22
1journeyman
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Originally Posted by emmitt2
Clearly!
as i posted in the Bush thread, Bush stated he has not use cocaine since 1974 but when asked about prior to 1974 he said he will not answer that for fear kids will think it is ok to do what he did when he was young. Hmmmm, probably didnt use cocaine. Also, Irvin has never been arrested for putting innocent peoples lives at risk by driving drunk like the President has!
Sorry, my reading comprehension skills are weak; where are the prostitues and drug use proven in that paragraph?
Clearly!
as i posted in the Bush thread, Bush stated he has not use cocaine since 1974 but when asked about prior to 1974 he said he will not answer that for fear kids will think it is ok to do what he did when he was young. Hmmmm, probably didnt use cocaine. Also, Irvin has never been arrested for putting innocent peoples lives at risk by driving drunk like the President has!
Sorry, my reading comprehension skills are weak; where are the prostitues and drug use proven in that paragraph?
1journeyman
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Originally Posted by emmitt2
Again, its reading comprehension
You said that i said that all people from bad neighborhoods use drugs and prostitutes. Oceanists said he didnt see that and you said reread my posts. My posts never said that, they said that taking 53 people from bad neighborhoods and expecting them to be "above reproach" because they can play a sport will almost always disappoint you. But apparently even after rereading the posts, your reading comprehension skills still dont see that. Clear enough
Sorry. you are correct. What I should have said was "So you're saying "almost" all people..."
Now that we have that corrected, let's correct your statement that "Cowboy fans could care less what he did off the field with escorts and strippers..."
Again, its reading comprehension
You said that i said that all people from bad neighborhoods use drugs and prostitutes. Oceanists said he didnt see that and you said reread my posts. My posts never said that, they said that taking 53 people from bad neighborhoods and expecting them to be "above reproach" because they can play a sport will almost always disappoint you. But apparently even after rereading the posts, your reading comprehension skills still dont see that. Clear enough
Sorry. you are correct. What I should have said was "So you're saying "almost" all people..."
Now that we have that corrected, let's correct your statement that "Cowboy fans could care less what he did off the field with escorts and strippers..."
emmitt2
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Sorry, no prostitutes just incredibly dangerous criminal activity(DUI) and a quote(from the Presidents own mouth) that any but those whose heads are stuck so far in the sand in the sand knows he's used cocaine prior to 1974.
Lemme ask our high and mighty "above reproach" moderator if he voted for Bush and his DUI arrest? I'm sure after all this preaching, you couldnt have "rewarded" someone for their criminal activity with the Office of the President of the United States, right???
And yes, they are weak
Lemme ask our high and mighty "above reproach" moderator if he voted for Bush and his DUI arrest? I'm sure after all this preaching, you couldnt have "rewarded" someone for their criminal activity with the Office of the President of the United States, right???
And yes, they are weak
emmitt2
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Sorry, no prostitutes just incredibly dangerous criminal activity(DUI) and a quote(from the Presidents own mouth) that any but those whose heads are stuck so far in the sand knows he's used cocaine prior to 1974.
Lemme ask our high and mighty "above reproach" moderator if he voted for Bush and his DUI arrest? I'm sure after all this preaching, you couldnt have "rewarded" someone for their criminal activity with the Office of the President of the United States, right??? Thats certainly much more important than the HOF.
And yes, they are weak
Lemme ask our high and mighty "above reproach" moderator if he voted for Bush and his DUI arrest? I'm sure after all this preaching, you couldnt have "rewarded" someone for their criminal activity with the Office of the President of the United States, right??? Thats certainly much more important than the HOF.
And yes, they are weak
1journeyman
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I'm still waiting for your correction to the "Cowboy fans don't care" comment...
1journeyman
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Originally Posted by emmitt2
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Lemme ask our high and mighty "above reproach" moderator...
Not sure where this came from or where it is going but I don't suggest pursuing it.
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Lemme ask our high and mighty "above reproach" moderator...
Not sure where this came from or where it is going but I don't suggest pursuing it.
emmitt2
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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
Not sure where this came from or where it is going but I don't suggest pursuing it.
1. You said you cant "reward" people for criminal activity by voting them in the HOF
2. You said "has our country degraded to the point where we cant find law abiding sports heroes anymore?"
Very odd statements given your stance on President Bush. I notice you didnt answer that question. Did you vote for Bush?
Not sure where this came from or where it is going but I don't suggest pursuing it.
1. You said you cant "reward" people for criminal activity by voting them in the HOF
2. You said "has our country degraded to the point where we cant find law abiding sports heroes anymore?"
Very odd statements given your stance on President Bush. I notice you didnt answer that question. Did you vote for Bush?
1journeyman
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Emmitt, you're trying to build a Straw Man case. You said "Cowboy fans don't care" and I corrected you. You then said We can't judge MI's behavior because of where he came from. I corrected that by explaining that not everyone from his background use drugs and hookers.
Would the Cowboys have won as many games without him? Probably not, but no one can say for sure. Do his big plays erase drugs and prostitutes? Not if I was voting.
This thread is about MI's Hall of Fame appearance. Nothing more. If ya want to discuss politics feel free to start a thread.
Would the Cowboys have won as many games without him? Probably not, but no one can say for sure. Do his big plays erase drugs and prostitutes? Not if I was voting.
This thread is about MI's Hall of Fame appearance. Nothing more. If ya want to discuss politics feel free to start a thread.
emmitt2
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Nice dodge but you voted for Bush and have a million posts in the last 2 weeks supporting Bush.
Believe me, i fully understand why you dont want to admit that since you cant possibly reconcile how incredibly hypocritical that is. You think Irvin shouldnt be "rewarded" by voting him into the Hall but you "rewarded" Bush by voting him into the Oval office despite his criminal behavior. Seems a little silly to hold an NFL player to a higher standard than the President of the United States, doesnt it?
Has our country degraded to the point where we cant find law abiding presidential candidates anymore???
This is about King Michael's HOF induction(I started it!) but dont argue to me that he should be disqualified for the HOF because of his criminal past when you voted for a PRESIDENT despite his criminal past.
Believe me, i fully understand why you dont want to admit that since you cant possibly reconcile how incredibly hypocritical that is. You think Irvin shouldnt be "rewarded" by voting him into the Hall but you "rewarded" Bush by voting him into the Oval office despite his criminal behavior. Seems a little silly to hold an NFL player to a higher standard than the President of the United States, doesnt it?
Has our country degraded to the point where we cant find law abiding presidential candidates anymore???
This is about King Michael's HOF induction(I started it!) but dont argue to me that he should be disqualified for the HOF because of his criminal past when you voted for a PRESIDENT despite his criminal past.
1journeyman
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As you will recall this started only after you posted that I didn't care about MI's off the field crimes.
catawaba
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Originally Posted by Oceanists
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Pete Rose bet against his own team, owed tons of money to bookies , gave away his "prized bat" over 30 times and dabbled in cocaine..... how much worse can you get.
Yes Farve is back .... and yet again one more year the Packers will fail horribly..... What do they see in this guy?
Just one of the best QB's of all time.
Yes, Rose bet on sports; not illegal and not as bad a role model as all these drug addicts--Barry Bonds for example....
I don't care how they grew up, they still know right from wrong and they know that KIDS look up to them. They are all selfish IMO
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Pete Rose bet against his own team, owed tons of money to bookies , gave away his "prized bat" over 30 times and dabbled in cocaine..... how much worse can you get.
Yes Farve is back .... and yet again one more year the Packers will fail horribly..... What do they see in this guy?
Just one of the best QB's of all time.
Yes, Rose bet on sports; not illegal and not as bad a role model as all these drug addicts--Barry Bonds for example....
I don't care how they grew up, they still know right from wrong and they know that KIDS look up to them. They are all selfish IMO
catawaba
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Originally Posted by emmitt2
Using drugs is bad but every athlete knows the 1 cardinal, unforgiveable sin in sports is betting on not only your sport but your own team! Rose bet on baseball games including the Reds as both a player and player/manager.
Irvin has done more than most of you realize in South Florida for youths in his hometown. He has built parks and playgrounds and donated tons of money and time to help poor kids from where he grew up. Rose is just despicable all around, the closest he's ever come to helping any kids is to charge them $75 for an autograph.
I know what he did, but he's not trying to 'make nice' by building playgrounds. Whatever, Joe Q. Public is smarter than that.
Pete's auto is 'worth' more than Irvin's---people don't want to pay $200+ for his autograph; knowing he'll just fill up the coke machine
Using drugs is bad but every athlete knows the 1 cardinal, unforgiveable sin in sports is betting on not only your sport but your own team! Rose bet on baseball games including the Reds as both a player and player/manager.
Irvin has done more than most of you realize in South Florida for youths in his hometown. He has built parks and playgrounds and donated tons of money and time to help poor kids from where he grew up. Rose is just despicable all around, the closest he's ever come to helping any kids is to charge them $75 for an autograph.
I know what he did, but he's not trying to 'make nice' by building playgrounds. Whatever, Joe Q. Public is smarter than that.
Pete's auto is 'worth' more than Irvin's---people don't want to pay $200+ for his autograph; knowing he'll just fill up the coke machine