Is it natural for people to spend their lives committed to just one partner?
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darthtang aw
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Go for the women in their mid thirties or older. They know how to use what their mammas gave them! :flame:
Their Voice?
Darth (cuz they forgot their cooking skills) Tang
Their Voice?
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2quills
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Originally Posted by crimzy http:///t/393879/is-it-natural-for-people-to-spend-their-lives-committed-to-just-one-partner/20#post_3505437
I need to find a hot girl between 27-33 who loves kids, doesn't want to get married... and is sterile. Could be a tough combination I'm thinking.
I suspect that the only way you're going to find that is if she's loco en la cabeza. lol
Originally Posted by crimzy http:///t/393879/is-it-natural-for-people-to-spend-their-lives-committed-to-just-one-partner/20#post_3505437
I need to find a hot girl between 27-33 who loves kids, doesn't want to get married... and is sterile. Could be a tough combination I'm thinking.
I suspect that the only way you're going to find that is if she's loco en la cabeza. lol
snakeblitz33
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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///t/393879/is-it-natural-for-people-to-spend-their-lives-committed-to-just-one-partner/20#post_3505439
I suspect that the only way you're going to find that is if she's loco en la cabeza. lol
Sorry, I don't speak Texan. LOL
Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///t/393879/is-it-natural-for-people-to-spend-their-lives-committed-to-just-one-partner/20#post_3505439
I suspect that the only way you're going to find that is if she's loco en la cabeza. lol
Sorry, I don't speak Texan. LOL
snakeblitz33
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Originally Posted by crimzy http:///t/393879/is-it-natural-for-people-to-spend-their-lives-committed-to-just-one-partner/20#post_3505437
I need to find a hot girl between 27-33 who loves kids, doesn't want to get married... and is sterile. Could be a tough combination I'm thinking.
Why can't you sterilize yourself?
Snake (snip snip) Blitz33
Originally Posted by crimzy http:///t/393879/is-it-natural-for-people-to-spend-their-lives-committed-to-just-one-partner/20#post_3505437
I need to find a hot girl between 27-33 who loves kids, doesn't want to get married... and is sterile. Could be a tough combination I'm thinking.
Why can't you sterilize yourself?
Snake (snip snip) Blitz33
crimzy
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Originally Posted by SnakeBlitz33 http:///t/393879/is-it-natural-for-people-to-spend-their-lives-committed-to-just-one-partner/20#post_3505487
Why can't you sterilize yourself?
Snake (snip snip) Blitz33
As a general rule I try to keep sharp things away from the important stuff... it's like telling the kids not to run with scissors.
Originally Posted by SnakeBlitz33 http:///t/393879/is-it-natural-for-people-to-spend-their-lives-committed-to-just-one-partner/20#post_3505487
Why can't you sterilize yourself?
Snake (snip snip) Blitz33
As a general rule I try to keep sharp things away from the important stuff... it's like telling the kids not to run with scissors.
theclemsonkid
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I had a very good friend in college write a dissertation on this very issue. Though it was about 70 pages, it can be summed up quite nicely in a very few sentences.
For as long as there have been modern humans, the biological thing goes somewhat like this: As a male, we are expected to be brut, physical, and tough; which gives off the physical signs that we would produce strong offspring. Likewise, a woman with childbearing hips, large breasts, curves, etc appears to be the type who would easily be able to bear those strong offspring we are looking for. When it comes right down to it, on a very simplistic biological level, we're simply here on this rock to reproduce as often and as well as possible. Because of that, deep down in our DNA, there are very, very strong physiological markers that make people do what they do.
It's of course a joke, but when Chris Rock once said "Men are only as faithful as their best option", there is a lot of truth to that. People seem to forget that the whole modern marriage and life long relationship thing is a relatively new idea in the course of human evolution. The basis of marriage from thousands of years ago was more about possession of a woman than anything else. Does this mean the men were faithful? Hardly. It just means the whole men rule the world thing had it's basis.
Another facet of marriage ties in very closely to religion. While some would argue that religion bans things like adultery, gambling, drinking, drugs, etc because they are all "sins", a lot of people believe that these things are all chosen because they can get in the way of you and your God. I won't get into whether that's a good thing or bad thing, but let's just say this. It's a lot easier to go to church every week and tithe when you have a wife and kids at home. If you were out there able to sleep around with whomever you chose, gamble, drink, and all those other things, well I would imagine God would take a backseat to your "vices", and that's not good business for the church.
So the long and short of it is like this... When you hear that so and so cheated on his wife, just remember... while you might think he is an ass, and should be banished to hell for his actions, he's fighting against every little pre-planted biological signal that says "do it". If you don't believe me, ask yourself why the divorce rate in this country means you're more likely to be divorced than stay married...
For as long as there have been modern humans, the biological thing goes somewhat like this: As a male, we are expected to be brut, physical, and tough; which gives off the physical signs that we would produce strong offspring. Likewise, a woman with childbearing hips, large breasts, curves, etc appears to be the type who would easily be able to bear those strong offspring we are looking for. When it comes right down to it, on a very simplistic biological level, we're simply here on this rock to reproduce as often and as well as possible. Because of that, deep down in our DNA, there are very, very strong physiological markers that make people do what they do.
It's of course a joke, but when Chris Rock once said "Men are only as faithful as their best option", there is a lot of truth to that. People seem to forget that the whole modern marriage and life long relationship thing is a relatively new idea in the course of human evolution. The basis of marriage from thousands of years ago was more about possession of a woman than anything else. Does this mean the men were faithful? Hardly. It just means the whole men rule the world thing had it's basis.
Another facet of marriage ties in very closely to religion. While some would argue that religion bans things like adultery, gambling, drinking, drugs, etc because they are all "sins", a lot of people believe that these things are all chosen because they can get in the way of you and your God. I won't get into whether that's a good thing or bad thing, but let's just say this. It's a lot easier to go to church every week and tithe when you have a wife and kids at home. If you were out there able to sleep around with whomever you chose, gamble, drink, and all those other things, well I would imagine God would take a backseat to your "vices", and that's not good business for the church.
So the long and short of it is like this... When you hear that so and so cheated on his wife, just remember... while you might think he is an ass, and should be banished to hell for his actions, he's fighting against every little pre-planted biological signal that says "do it". If you don't believe me, ask yourself why the divorce rate in this country means you're more likely to be divorced than stay married...
crimzy
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Originally Posted by TheClemsonKid http:///t/393879/is-it-natural-for-people-to-spend-their-lives-committed-to-just-one-partner/20#post_3505506
I had a very good friend in college write a dissertation on this very issue. Though it was about 70 pages, it can be summed up quite nicely in a very few sentences.
For as long as there have been modern humans, the biological thing goes somewhat like this: As a male, we are expected to be brut, physical, and tough; which gives off the physical signs that we would produce strong offspring. Likewise, a woman with childbearing hips, large breasts, curves, etc appears to be the type who would easily be able to bear those strong offspring we are looking for. When it comes right down to it, on a very simplistic biological level, we're simply here on this rock to reproduce as often and as well as possible. Because of that, deep down in our DNA, there are very, very strong physiological markers that make people do what they do.
It's of course a joke, but when Chris Rock once said "Men are only as faithful as their best option", there is a lot of truth to that. People seem to forget that the whole modern marriage and life long relationship thing is a relatively new idea in the course of human evolution. The basis of marriage from thousands of years ago was more about possession of a woman than anything else. Does this mean the men were faithful? Hardly. It just means the whole men rule the world thing had it's basis.
Another facet of marriage ties in very closely to religion. While some would argue that religion bans things like adultery, gambling, drinking, drugs, etc because they are all "sins", a lot of people believe that these things are all chosen because they can get in the way of you and your God. I won't get into whether that's a good thing or bad thing, but let's just say this. It's a lot easier to go to church every week and tithe when you have a wife and kids at home. If you were out there able to sleep around with whomever you chose, gamble, drink, and all those other things, well I would imagine God would take a backseat to your "vices", and that's not good business for the church.
So the long and short of it is like this... When you hear that so and so cheated on his wife, just remember... while you might think he is an ass, and should be banished to hell for his actions, he's fighting against every little pre-planted biological signal that says "do it". If you don't believe me, ask yourself why the divorce rate in this country means you're more likely to be divorced than stay married...
I think you nailed it. (no pun intended)
There are species of animals who do mate for life (ie. wolves). From a biology standpoint, the issue is whether people are one of those species? If not, then commitment for life is a concept that we created, in conflict with our natural instincts, and works with very limited success.
Originally Posted by TheClemsonKid http:///t/393879/is-it-natural-for-people-to-spend-their-lives-committed-to-just-one-partner/20#post_3505506
I had a very good friend in college write a dissertation on this very issue. Though it was about 70 pages, it can be summed up quite nicely in a very few sentences.
For as long as there have been modern humans, the biological thing goes somewhat like this: As a male, we are expected to be brut, physical, and tough; which gives off the physical signs that we would produce strong offspring. Likewise, a woman with childbearing hips, large breasts, curves, etc appears to be the type who would easily be able to bear those strong offspring we are looking for. When it comes right down to it, on a very simplistic biological level, we're simply here on this rock to reproduce as often and as well as possible. Because of that, deep down in our DNA, there are very, very strong physiological markers that make people do what they do.
It's of course a joke, but when Chris Rock once said "Men are only as faithful as their best option", there is a lot of truth to that. People seem to forget that the whole modern marriage and life long relationship thing is a relatively new idea in the course of human evolution. The basis of marriage from thousands of years ago was more about possession of a woman than anything else. Does this mean the men were faithful? Hardly. It just means the whole men rule the world thing had it's basis.
Another facet of marriage ties in very closely to religion. While some would argue that religion bans things like adultery, gambling, drinking, drugs, etc because they are all "sins", a lot of people believe that these things are all chosen because they can get in the way of you and your God. I won't get into whether that's a good thing or bad thing, but let's just say this. It's a lot easier to go to church every week and tithe when you have a wife and kids at home. If you were out there able to sleep around with whomever you chose, gamble, drink, and all those other things, well I would imagine God would take a backseat to your "vices", and that's not good business for the church.
So the long and short of it is like this... When you hear that so and so cheated on his wife, just remember... while you might think he is an ass, and should be banished to hell for his actions, he's fighting against every little pre-planted biological signal that says "do it". If you don't believe me, ask yourself why the divorce rate in this country means you're more likely to be divorced than stay married...
I think you nailed it. (no pun intended)
There are species of animals who do mate for life (ie. wolves). From a biology standpoint, the issue is whether people are one of those species? If not, then commitment for life is a concept that we created, in conflict with our natural instincts, and works with very limited success.
reefraff
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There are actually many species that mate with one partner. We see that even in our fish tanks.
Not sure it really relates to the topic at hand.
I don't have much use for someone who cheats. It's a betrayal to their partner. If you are willing to do that what else might you do. If you aren't happy with your situation get out, do it the right way. Of course their are exceptions to the rule.
Not sure it really relates to the topic at hand.
I don't have much use for someone who cheats. It's a betrayal to their partner. If you are willing to do that what else might you do. If you aren't happy with your situation get out, do it the right way. Of course their are exceptions to the rule.
crimzy
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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/393879/is-it-natural-for-people-to-spend-their-lives-committed-to-just-one-partner/20#post_3505512
There are actually many species that mate with one partner. We see that even in our fish tanks.
Not sure it really relates to the topic at hand.
I don't have much use for someone who cheats. It's a betrayal to their partner. If you are willing to do that what else might you do. If you aren't happy with your situation get out, do it the right way. Of course their are exceptions to the rule.
I wasn't really talking about cheating. I don't cheat but I do move on if/when I realize that the situation isn't what I want for the future. However the OP was intended (maybe not so eloquently) to question whether monogamy is in our nature as people. Then, of course, things took a tangent (as they have a tendency to do).
Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/393879/is-it-natural-for-people-to-spend-their-lives-committed-to-just-one-partner/20#post_3505512
There are actually many species that mate with one partner. We see that even in our fish tanks.
Not sure it really relates to the topic at hand.
I don't have much use for someone who cheats. It's a betrayal to their partner. If you are willing to do that what else might you do. If you aren't happy with your situation get out, do it the right way. Of course their are exceptions to the rule.
I wasn't really talking about cheating. I don't cheat but I do move on if/when I realize that the situation isn't what I want for the future. However the OP was intended (maybe not so eloquently) to question whether monogamy is in our nature as people. Then, of course, things took a tangent (as they have a tendency to do).
theclemsonkid
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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/393879/is-it-natural-for-people-to-spend-their-lives-committed-to-just-one-partner/20#post_3505512
There are actually many species that mate with one partner. We see that even in our fish tanks.
Not sure it really relates to the topic at hand.
I don't have much use for someone who cheats. It's a betrayal to their partner. If you are willing to do that what else might you do. If you aren't happy with your situation get out, do it the right way. Of course their are exceptions to the rule.
How does this not relate to the topic at hand? Assuming that biologically speaking we as humans were never meant to have one partner, how does that not relate? Every time you hear about a "good guy" or "good girl" who gets caught cheating... do you think it's because they are a genuinely terrible person, or do you think the whole biological survival thing plays into that? I have just seen WAY too many people cheat in my life. I find it hard to believe that people who seem inherently good would PURPOSELY hurt someone they care about. I'm not talking about 17 year old Billy cheating on 18 year old Sally either. I'm talking about Pastor's, doctors, friends, family all well into their marriages who go that route. Hell, my own parents both did the same thing, and I don't think that makes them any less of a person. Again, I'm not condoning it, I just think some people are way to quick to judge...
Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/393879/is-it-natural-for-people-to-spend-their-lives-committed-to-just-one-partner/20#post_3505512
There are actually many species that mate with one partner. We see that even in our fish tanks.
Not sure it really relates to the topic at hand.
I don't have much use for someone who cheats. It's a betrayal to their partner. If you are willing to do that what else might you do. If you aren't happy with your situation get out, do it the right way. Of course their are exceptions to the rule.
How does this not relate to the topic at hand? Assuming that biologically speaking we as humans were never meant to have one partner, how does that not relate? Every time you hear about a "good guy" or "good girl" who gets caught cheating... do you think it's because they are a genuinely terrible person, or do you think the whole biological survival thing plays into that? I have just seen WAY too many people cheat in my life. I find it hard to believe that people who seem inherently good would PURPOSELY hurt someone they care about. I'm not talking about 17 year old Billy cheating on 18 year old Sally either. I'm talking about Pastor's, doctors, friends, family all well into their marriages who go that route. Hell, my own parents both did the same thing, and I don't think that makes them any less of a person. Again, I'm not condoning it, I just think some people are way to quick to judge...
reefraff
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Originally Posted by TheClemsonKid http:///t/393879/is-it-natural-for-people-to-spend-their-lives-committed-to-just-one-partner/20#post_3505516
How does this not relate to the topic at hand? Assuming that biologically speaking we as humans were never meant to have one partner, how does that not relate? Every time you hear about a "good guy" or "good girl" who gets caught cheating... do you think it's because they are a genuinely terrible person, or do you think the whole biological survival thing plays into that? I have just seen WAY too many people cheat in my life. I find it hard to believe that people who seem inherently good would PURPOSELY hurt someone they care about. I'm not talking about 17 year old Billy cheating on 18 year old Sally either. I'm talking about Pastor's, doctors, friends, family all well into their marriages who go that route. Hell, my own parents both did the same thing, and I don't think that makes them any less of a person. Again, I'm not condoning it, I just think some people are way to quick to judge...
Animals act on instinct, humans on emotions. That's a pretty big difference.
Originally Posted by TheClemsonKid http:///t/393879/is-it-natural-for-people-to-spend-their-lives-committed-to-just-one-partner/20#post_3505516
How does this not relate to the topic at hand? Assuming that biologically speaking we as humans were never meant to have one partner, how does that not relate? Every time you hear about a "good guy" or "good girl" who gets caught cheating... do you think it's because they are a genuinely terrible person, or do you think the whole biological survival thing plays into that? I have just seen WAY too many people cheat in my life. I find it hard to believe that people who seem inherently good would PURPOSELY hurt someone they care about. I'm not talking about 17 year old Billy cheating on 18 year old Sally either. I'm talking about Pastor's, doctors, friends, family all well into their marriages who go that route. Hell, my own parents both did the same thing, and I don't think that makes them any less of a person. Again, I'm not condoning it, I just think some people are way to quick to judge...
Animals act on instinct, humans on emotions. That's a pretty big difference.
reefraff
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Originally Posted by crimzy http:///t/393879/is-it-natural-for-people-to-spend-their-lives-committed-to-just-one-partner/20#post_3505515
I wasn't really talking about cheating. I don't cheat but I do move on if/when I realize that the situation isn't what I want for the future. However the OP was intended (maybe not so eloquently) to question whether monogamy is in our nature as people. Then, of course, things took a tangent (as they have a tendency to do).
I got what you were saying. This was just a slight detour LOL!
I personally think where kids are involved a more permanent relationship would be preferable but no relationship is far better than a bad one. I've read your words concerning your girls here before and I think it's a pretty sure bet you aren't sneaking strange women out the door before they come out for breakfast in the morning so don't take that the wrong way. The most important relationship besides your girls is with your ex. As long as they can see mom and dad get along that's the most important thing.
Originally Posted by crimzy http:///t/393879/is-it-natural-for-people-to-spend-their-lives-committed-to-just-one-partner/20#post_3505515
I wasn't really talking about cheating. I don't cheat but I do move on if/when I realize that the situation isn't what I want for the future. However the OP was intended (maybe not so eloquently) to question whether monogamy is in our nature as people. Then, of course, things took a tangent (as they have a tendency to do).
I got what you were saying. This was just a slight detour LOL!
I personally think where kids are involved a more permanent relationship would be preferable but no relationship is far better than a bad one. I've read your words concerning your girls here before and I think it's a pretty sure bet you aren't sneaking strange women out the door before they come out for breakfast in the morning so don't take that the wrong way. The most important relationship besides your girls is with your ex. As long as they can see mom and dad get along that's the most important thing.
theclemsonkid
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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/393879/is-it-natural-for-people-to-spend-their-lives-committed-to-just-one-partner/20#post_3505529
Animals act on instinct, humans on emotions. That's a pretty big difference.
On the deepest biological levels were just animals. Just like fight or flight. That's not an emotional decision, that's a survival one. It's a survival mechanism. In it's own way, sleeping with multiple people because your body tells you that you're a good match to reproduce could be considered a survival mechanism. It's not an excuse to cheat per say, but you have to wonder why so many good people do, don't you?
Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/393879/is-it-natural-for-people-to-spend-their-lives-committed-to-just-one-partner/20#post_3505529
Animals act on instinct, humans on emotions. That's a pretty big difference.
On the deepest biological levels were just animals. Just like fight or flight. That's not an emotional decision, that's a survival one. It's a survival mechanism. In it's own way, sleeping with multiple people because your body tells you that you're a good match to reproduce could be considered a survival mechanism. It's not an excuse to cheat per say, but you have to wonder why so many good people do, don't you?
flower
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Originally Posted by TheClemsonKid http:///t/393879/is-it-natural-for-people-to-spend-their-lives-committed-to-just-one-partner/20#post_3505516
How does this not relate to the topic at hand? Assuming that biologically speaking we as humans were never meant to have one partner, how does that not relate? Every time you hear about a "good guy" or "good girl" who gets caught cheating... do you think it's because they are a genuinely terrible person, or do you think the whole biological survival thing plays into that? I have just seen WAY too many people cheat in my life. I find it hard to believe that people who seem inherently good would PURPOSELY hurt someone they care about. I'm not talking about 17 year old Billy cheating on 18 year old Sally either. I'm talking about Pastor's, doctors, friends, family all well into their marriages who go that route. Hell, my own parents both did the same thing, and I don't think that makes them any less of a person. Again, I'm not condoning it, I just think some people are way to quick to judge...
Quick to judge, are you $%*$#ing kidding me????? Biological survival thing????? I'm going with them being a terrible person theory.
Sorry, and I know you love your parents...but cheating is WRONG!!! It does indeed make them less a person. What did you learn from your cheating parents....well for starters you seem to think it's perfectly normal. You don't condone it??? Well it makes me want to puke.
The cheaters in this world have the morals of a pig, AKA...if it feels good it must be right. What kind of disgusting pig needs to cheat? Any normal adult intelligent person has enough sense to keep their cloths on, and not allow their sexual hunger to destroy their entire family. Anyone who puts the desire for sex above their children, and another person they swore to be faithful to, is the lowest pond scum of human trash. There is no excuse for it...period. They are right up there with the pedophiles, they can't control their sexual urges either, what they want and hunger for is all that matters to them...to hell with who it hurts and damages for a lifetime.
I have never cheated, and I have never been cheated on, my attitude about such behavior was ingrained since childhood....along with knowing you are supposed to knock before entering somebodies house, and ask if you want something and not just grab it like a caveman out of somebodies hand. It's a matter of simple respect for another person.
If you don't want to be in a marriage anymore, get a divorce, and if you think you really have a free right to cheat because it must be normal, with the attitude that everyone does it...do everyone a favor and not get married in the first place. Why destroy everyone in your family because you can't control your sexual desires..
When we were dating...my husband asked me once what I would do if he ever cheated...I did a dance out of the room...foot over foot sideways until I left the room singing Do da do da...stuck my head back into the doorway to face him and asked if he had any questions...he said no, he understood loud and clear. I would be gone, and there wouldn't be any claims of "it was mistake" our relationship would be over period. I also understand how some idiots get their fool heads shot off, that kind of deep betrayal gets people killed.
I would never blame the other person, I would blame the person who promised to love me until death do us part. If you can't hold on to the oath, at least have enough respect, to be up front and get a divorce or break up like an adult. The wrost lowest forms of breaking up such as a Dear John letter, text, or phone message shows more respect to a person than cheating on them.
Originally Posted by TheClemsonKid http:///t/393879/is-it-natural-for-people-to-spend-their-lives-committed-to-just-one-partner/20#post_3505516
How does this not relate to the topic at hand? Assuming that biologically speaking we as humans were never meant to have one partner, how does that not relate? Every time you hear about a "good guy" or "good girl" who gets caught cheating... do you think it's because they are a genuinely terrible person, or do you think the whole biological survival thing plays into that? I have just seen WAY too many people cheat in my life. I find it hard to believe that people who seem inherently good would PURPOSELY hurt someone they care about. I'm not talking about 17 year old Billy cheating on 18 year old Sally either. I'm talking about Pastor's, doctors, friends, family all well into their marriages who go that route. Hell, my own parents both did the same thing, and I don't think that makes them any less of a person. Again, I'm not condoning it, I just think some people are way to quick to judge...
Quick to judge, are you $%*$#ing kidding me????? Biological survival thing????? I'm going with them being a terrible person theory.
Sorry, and I know you love your parents...but cheating is WRONG!!! It does indeed make them less a person. What did you learn from your cheating parents....well for starters you seem to think it's perfectly normal. You don't condone it??? Well it makes me want to puke.
The cheaters in this world have the morals of a pig, AKA...if it feels good it must be right. What kind of disgusting pig needs to cheat? Any normal adult intelligent person has enough sense to keep their cloths on, and not allow their sexual hunger to destroy their entire family. Anyone who puts the desire for sex above their children, and another person they swore to be faithful to, is the lowest pond scum of human trash. There is no excuse for it...period. They are right up there with the pedophiles, they can't control their sexual urges either, what they want and hunger for is all that matters to them...to hell with who it hurts and damages for a lifetime.
I have never cheated, and I have never been cheated on, my attitude about such behavior was ingrained since childhood....along with knowing you are supposed to knock before entering somebodies house, and ask if you want something and not just grab it like a caveman out of somebodies hand. It's a matter of simple respect for another person.
If you don't want to be in a marriage anymore, get a divorce, and if you think you really have a free right to cheat because it must be normal, with the attitude that everyone does it...do everyone a favor and not get married in the first place. Why destroy everyone in your family because you can't control your sexual desires..
When we were dating...my husband asked me once what I would do if he ever cheated...I did a dance out of the room...foot over foot sideways until I left the room singing Do da do da...stuck my head back into the doorway to face him and asked if he had any questions...he said no, he understood loud and clear. I would be gone, and there wouldn't be any claims of "it was mistake" our relationship would be over period. I also understand how some idiots get their fool heads shot off, that kind of deep betrayal gets people killed.
I would never blame the other person, I would blame the person who promised to love me until death do us part. If you can't hold on to the oath, at least have enough respect, to be up front and get a divorce or break up like an adult. The wrost lowest forms of breaking up such as a Dear John letter, text, or phone message shows more respect to a person than cheating on them.
snakeblitz33
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What i get from that rant is that we should club a potential mate in the head and drag her back to our man caves. Some people are more "committed" than others. As humans, our psychology is a lot more complex than wolves and other animals. Yes, we still are animals, perhaps the smartest and most deadly of all animals. But does that mean we have no impulse control when it comes to reproducing? No.
As long as i am with my wife, i am and will always be faithful. Now, if we get divorced then that is another story. The question of "is it possible to have a lifelong commitment anymore?" Is illogical because life is too diverse to answer that question definitively. You have to decide for yourself and your situation and no one can tell you what to do. Personally, i feel like you should do what makes you happy, because you only have one life to live.
As long as i am with my wife, i am and will always be faithful. Now, if we get divorced then that is another story. The question of "is it possible to have a lifelong commitment anymore?" Is illogical because life is too diverse to answer that question definitively. You have to decide for yourself and your situation and no one can tell you what to do. Personally, i feel like you should do what makes you happy, because you only have one life to live.
theclemsonkid
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Originally Posted by Flower http:///t/393879/is-it-natural-for-people-to-spend-their-lives-committed-to-just-one-partner/20#post_3505538
Quick to judge, are you $%*$#ing kidding me????? Biological survival thing????? I'm going with them being a terrible person theory.
Sorry, and I know you love your parents...but cheating is WRONG!!! It does indeed make them less a person. What did you learn from your cheating parents....well for starters you seem to think it's perfectly normal. You don't condone it??? Well it makes me want to puke.
The cheaters in this world have the morals of a pig, AKA...if it feels good it must be right. What kind of disgusting pig needs to cheat? Any normal adult intelligent person has enough sense to keep their cloths on, and not allow their sexual hunger to destroy their entire family. Anyone who puts the desire for sex above their children, and another person they swore to be faithful to, is the lowest pond scum of human trash. There is no excuse for it...period. They are right up there with the pedophiles, they can't control their sexual urges either, what they want and hunger for is all that matters to them...to hell with who it hurts and damages for a lifetime.
I have never cheated, and I have never been cheated on, my attitude about such behavior was ingrained since childhood....along with knowing you are supposed to knock before entering somebodies house, and ask if you want something and not just grab it like a caveman out of somebodies hand. It's a matter of simple respect for another person.
If you don't want to be in a marriage anymore, get a divorce, and if you think you really have a free right to cheat because it must be normal, with the attitude that everyone does it...do everyone a favor and not get married in the first place. Why destroy everyone in your family because you can't control your sexual desires..
When we were dating...my husband asked me once what I would do if he ever cheated...I did a dance out of the room...foot over foot sideways until I left the room singing Do da do da...stuck my head back into the doorway to face him and asked if he had any questions...he said no, he understood loud and clear. I would be gone, and there wouldn't be any claims of "it was mistake" our relationship would be over period. I also understand how some idiots get their fool heads shot off, that kind of deep betrayal gets people killed.
I would never blame the other person, I would blame the person who promised to love me until death do us part. If you can't hold on to the oath, at least have enough respect, to be up front and get a divorce or break up like an adult. The wrost lowest forms of breaking up such as a Dear John letter, text, or phone message shows more respect to a person than cheating on them.
So just to get this straight, you are saying a person who molests children is on the same level as a person who cheats on their spouse?!?
I can only assume from that rant that either you, or someone in your family was cheated on at some point and it ruined a family. Because if not, I am never gonna cross you! Good God that's a lot of vengeance!
Originally Posted by Flower http:///t/393879/is-it-natural-for-people-to-spend-their-lives-committed-to-just-one-partner/20#post_3505538
Quick to judge, are you $%*$#ing kidding me????? Biological survival thing????? I'm going with them being a terrible person theory.
Sorry, and I know you love your parents...but cheating is WRONG!!! It does indeed make them less a person. What did you learn from your cheating parents....well for starters you seem to think it's perfectly normal. You don't condone it??? Well it makes me want to puke.
The cheaters in this world have the morals of a pig, AKA...if it feels good it must be right. What kind of disgusting pig needs to cheat? Any normal adult intelligent person has enough sense to keep their cloths on, and not allow their sexual hunger to destroy their entire family. Anyone who puts the desire for sex above their children, and another person they swore to be faithful to, is the lowest pond scum of human trash. There is no excuse for it...period. They are right up there with the pedophiles, they can't control their sexual urges either, what they want and hunger for is all that matters to them...to hell with who it hurts and damages for a lifetime.
I have never cheated, and I have never been cheated on, my attitude about such behavior was ingrained since childhood....along with knowing you are supposed to knock before entering somebodies house, and ask if you want something and not just grab it like a caveman out of somebodies hand. It's a matter of simple respect for another person.
If you don't want to be in a marriage anymore, get a divorce, and if you think you really have a free right to cheat because it must be normal, with the attitude that everyone does it...do everyone a favor and not get married in the first place. Why destroy everyone in your family because you can't control your sexual desires..
When we were dating...my husband asked me once what I would do if he ever cheated...I did a dance out of the room...foot over foot sideways until I left the room singing Do da do da...stuck my head back into the doorway to face him and asked if he had any questions...he said no, he understood loud and clear. I would be gone, and there wouldn't be any claims of "it was mistake" our relationship would be over period. I also understand how some idiots get their fool heads shot off, that kind of deep betrayal gets people killed.
I would never blame the other person, I would blame the person who promised to love me until death do us part. If you can't hold on to the oath, at least have enough respect, to be up front and get a divorce or break up like an adult. The wrost lowest forms of breaking up such as a Dear John letter, text, or phone message shows more respect to a person than cheating on them.
So just to get this straight, you are saying a person who molests children is on the same level as a person who cheats on their spouse?!?
I can only assume from that rant that either you, or someone in your family was cheated on at some point and it ruined a family. Because if not, I am never gonna cross you! Good God that's a lot of vengeance!
theclemsonkid
Member
And also, as the resident Christian on these boards, aren't you in the business of forgiving people for their sins?