scottnlisa
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If so what would I need?
Is it possible to have a sump w/o drilling holes in my tank?
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btldreef
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Absolutely, this is how I ran my 40G and how I'm currently running my 155. You need a hang on overflow box - CPR makes the best one, seriously, spend a little money now and save a lot later and you won't have a flooded carpet.
Then you just need a return pump. I actually run my 155 with a CPR hang on overflow, down to my sump and refugium, and a return back to tank as well as a fluval canister filter.
Then you just need a return pump. I actually run my 155 with a CPR hang on overflow, down to my sump and refugium, and a return back to tank as well as a fluval canister filter.
scottnlisa
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Originally Posted by BTLDreef http:///forum/thread/380059/is-it-possible-to-have-a-sump-w-o-drilling-holes-in-my-tank#post_3306490
Absolutely, this is how I ran my 40G and how I'm currently running my 155. You need a hang on overflow box - CPR makes the best one, seriously, spend a little money now and save a lot later and you won't have a flooded carpet.
Then you just need a return pump. I actually run my 155 with a CPR hang on overflow, down to my sump and refugium, and a return back to tank as well as a fluval canister filter.
What kind of pump do I need? what size sump? I am new to this.
Originally Posted by BTLDreef http:///forum/thread/380059/is-it-possible-to-have-a-sump-w-o-drilling-holes-in-my-tank#post_3306490
Absolutely, this is how I ran my 40G and how I'm currently running my 155. You need a hang on overflow box - CPR makes the best one, seriously, spend a little money now and save a lot later and you won't have a flooded carpet.
Then you just need a return pump. I actually run my 155 with a CPR hang on overflow, down to my sump and refugium, and a return back to tank as well as a fluval canister filter.
What kind of pump do I need? what size sump? I am new to this.
scottnlisa
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Originally Posted by BTLDreef http:///forum/thread/380059/is-it-possible-to-have-a-sump-w-o-drilling-holes-in-my-tank#post_3306490
Absolutely, this is how I ran my 40G and how I'm currently running my 155. You need a hang on overflow box - CPR makes the best one, seriously, spend a little money now and save a lot later and you won't have a flooded carpet.
Then you just need a return pump. I actually run my 155 with a CPR hang on overflow, down to my sump and refugium, and a return back to tank as well as a fluval canister filter.
I have a 125g. What model do you have?
Originally Posted by BTLDreef http:///forum/thread/380059/is-it-possible-to-have-a-sump-w-o-drilling-holes-in-my-tank#post_3306490
Absolutely, this is how I ran my 40G and how I'm currently running my 155. You need a hang on overflow box - CPR makes the best one, seriously, spend a little money now and save a lot later and you won't have a flooded carpet.
Then you just need a return pump. I actually run my 155 with a CPR hang on overflow, down to my sump and refugium, and a return back to tank as well as a fluval canister filter.
I have a 125g. What model do you have?
btldreef
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Originally Posted by meowzer http:///forum/thread/380059/is-it-possible-to-have-a-sump-w-o-drilling-holes-in-my-tank#post_3306504
I bought a Sea Life Systems Pro wet/dry sump......came with everything...overflow, tubes.....just not the return pump
I think they are now called reefmasters or something like that
Eshoppes makes one that is similar. I had the Eshoppes, it's a PITA. Every time the power goes out or you need to do any sort of maitenance, you have to restart the siphon. The Eshoppes model also caused my floor to be soggy quite a few times.
The CPR has an airlift so the siphon is contant regardless, it's also a slimmer design inside the tank than most models, my Eshoppes, the fish and snails could get into no matter what I did.
Originally Posted by meowzer http:///forum/thread/380059/is-it-possible-to-have-a-sump-w-o-drilling-holes-in-my-tank#post_3306504
I bought a Sea Life Systems Pro wet/dry sump......came with everything...overflow, tubes.....just not the return pump
I think they are now called reefmasters or something like that
Eshoppes makes one that is similar. I had the Eshoppes, it's a PITA. Every time the power goes out or you need to do any sort of maitenance, you have to restart the siphon. The Eshoppes model also caused my floor to be soggy quite a few times.
The CPR has an airlift so the siphon is contant regardless, it's also a slimmer design inside the tank than most models, my Eshoppes, the fish and snails could get into no matter what I did.
scottnlisa
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Originally Posted by meowzer http:///forum/thread/380059/is-it-possible-to-have-a-sump-w-o-drilling-holes-in-my-tank#post_3306504
I bought a Sea Life Systems Pro wet/dry sump......came with everything...overflow, tubes.....just not the return pump
I think they are now called reefmasters or something like that
I am looking at a magazine right now and found the overflow. Is it wise to go bigger then my tank. I mean my tank is 125g, should I get the one rated for up to 125g, or go bigger with the one rated up to 175g or go bigger and get the one rated for up to 250g.
btldreef
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Originally Posted by scottnlisa http:///forum/thread/380059/is-it-possible-to-have-a-sump-w-o-drilling-holes-in-my-tank#post_3306506
I am looking at a magazine right now and found the overflow. Is it wise to go bigger then my tank. I mean my tank is 125g, should I get the one rated for up to 125g, or go bigger with the one rated up to 175g or go bigger and get the one rated for up to 250g.
I would get the one that is rated for 175, that should be fine. A lot depends on what return pump you're planning on using. The overflows are rated for a certain amount of GPH you have to make sure that your pump matches that and isn't too much.
Originally Posted by scottnlisa http:///forum/thread/380059/is-it-possible-to-have-a-sump-w-o-drilling-holes-in-my-tank#post_3306506
I am looking at a magazine right now and found the overflow. Is it wise to go bigger then my tank. I mean my tank is 125g, should I get the one rated for up to 125g, or go bigger with the one rated up to 175g or go bigger and get the one rated for up to 250g.
I would get the one that is rated for 175, that should be fine. A lot depends on what return pump you're planning on using. The overflows are rated for a certain amount of GPH you have to make sure that your pump matches that and isn't too much.
meowzer
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Originally Posted by BTLDreef http:///forum/thread/380059/is-it-possible-to-have-a-sump-w-o-drilling-holes-in-my-tank#post_3306507
I would get the one that is rated for 175, that should be fine. A lot depends on what return pump you're planning on using. The overflows are rated for a certain amount of GPH you have to make sure that your pump matches that and isn't too much.
Yeah....what she said....LOL.....
The one I bought suggested what size return pump you use.....I would have never known how to figure it out on my own....LOL
BTLD...I have never had an issue with the siphon restarting...thank goodness.....and we have power flashes a lot
Originally Posted by BTLDreef http:///forum/thread/380059/is-it-possible-to-have-a-sump-w-o-drilling-holes-in-my-tank#post_3306507
I would get the one that is rated for 175, that should be fine. A lot depends on what return pump you're planning on using. The overflows are rated for a certain amount of GPH you have to make sure that your pump matches that and isn't too much.
Yeah....what she said....LOL.....
The one I bought suggested what size return pump you use.....I would have never known how to figure it out on my own....LOL
BTLD...I have never had an issue with the siphon restarting...thank goodness.....and we have power flashes a lot
btldreef
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Originally Posted by meowzer http:///forum/thread/380059/is-it-possible-to-have-a-sump-w-o-drilling-holes-in-my-tank#post_3306508
Yeah....what she said....LOL.....
The one I bought suggested what size return pump you use.....I would have never known how to figure it out on my own....LOL
BTLD...I have never had an issue with the siphon restarting...thank goodness.....and we have power flashes a lot
Is it one of the "U" shaped siphons? Those are a PITA! That's what the Eshoppes, and most models are, which is why I went with the CPR, that and I was tired of the flooding from the damn snail getting in the Eshoppes.
scottnlisa
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Originally Posted by meowzer http:///forum/thread/380059/is-it-possible-to-have-a-sump-w-o-drilling-holes-in-my-tank#post_3306508
Yeah....what she said....LOL.....
The one I bought suggested what size return pump you use.....I would have never known how to figure it out on my own....LOL
BTLD...I have never had an issue with the siphon restarting...thank goodness.....and we have power flashes a lot
I am trying to find a sump but not sure what to look for. Can you send me liks of ones that would suit me. Please......
Originally Posted by meowzer http:///forum/thread/380059/is-it-possible-to-have-a-sump-w-o-drilling-holes-in-my-tank#post_3306508
Yeah....what she said....LOL.....
The one I bought suggested what size return pump you use.....I would have never known how to figure it out on my own....LOL
BTLD...I have never had an issue with the siphon restarting...thank goodness.....and we have power flashes a lot
I am trying to find a sump but not sure what to look for. Can you send me liks of ones that would suit me. Please......
btldreef
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Originally Posted by scottnlisa http:///forum/thread/380059/is-it-possible-to-have-a-sump-w-o-drilling-holes-in-my-tank#post_3306512
I am trying to find a sump but not sure what to look for. Can you send me liks of ones that would suit me. Please......
I still have my Eshoppes sump and I love it, just hated the overflow for it.
Honestly, all sumps are basically the same, you could even do as large of a tank as will fit under your stand. I've even seen/used rubbermaid bins.
Originally Posted by scottnlisa http:///forum/thread/380059/is-it-possible-to-have-a-sump-w-o-drilling-holes-in-my-tank#post_3306512
I am trying to find a sump but not sure what to look for. Can you send me liks of ones that would suit me. Please......
I still have my Eshoppes sump and I love it, just hated the overflow for it.
Honestly, all sumps are basically the same, you could even do as large of a tank as will fit under your stand. I've even seen/used rubbermaid bins.
meowzer
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Originally Posted by BTLDreef http:///forum/thread/380059/is-it-possible-to-have-a-sump-w-o-drilling-holes-in-my-tank#post_3306511
Is it one of the "U" shaped siphons? Those are a PITA! That's what the Eshoppes, and most models are, which is why I went with the CPR, that and I was tired of the flooding from the damn snail getting in the Eshoppes.
LOL...My overflow is a dual....so it has 2 of the U tubes......As I said before....never had an issue....
what's the difference with a cpr????
Originally Posted by BTLDreef http:///forum/thread/380059/is-it-possible-to-have-a-sump-w-o-drilling-holes-in-my-tank#post_3306511
Is it one of the "U" shaped siphons? Those are a PITA! That's what the Eshoppes, and most models are, which is why I went with the CPR, that and I was tired of the flooding from the damn snail getting in the Eshoppes.
LOL...My overflow is a dual....so it has 2 of the U tubes......As I said before....never had an issue....
what's the difference with a cpr????
scottnlisa
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What happens when there is a power outage?
meowzer
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Originally Posted by scottnlisa http:///forum/thread/380059/is-it-possible-to-have-a-sump-w-o-drilling-holes-in-my-tank#post_3306519
What happens when there is a power outage?
The lights go out
nothing......the water will fill up in the sump to where you have it tuned (do not ask me to explain) the water will stay in the overflow and tubes....when the power comes on it just flows again.......at least mine does
Originally Posted by scottnlisa http:///forum/thread/380059/is-it-possible-to-have-a-sump-w-o-drilling-holes-in-my-tank#post_3306519
What happens when there is a power outage?
The lights go out
nothing......the water will fill up in the sump to where you have it tuned (do not ask me to explain) the water will stay in the overflow and tubes....when the power comes on it just flows again.......at least mine does
btldreef
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Originally Posted by meowzer http:///forum/thread/380059/is-it-possible-to-have-a-sump-w-o-drilling-holes-in-my-tank#post_3306516
LOL...My overflow is a dual....so it has 2 of the U tubes......As I said before....never had an issue....
what's the difference with a cpr????
The CPR is sleeker in the tank and then it acts as a waterful basically, the airlifter pulls the water from the tank, into the hang on box. It's a dual system only if it has two bulk heads, instead of the two U's the most other systems have. Google the look, it's so different. I think they have a video of how it works too, it's so hard to explain. Honestly, now that I have a CPR, I wouldn't go back to a "regular" hang on overflow box.
Originally Posted by meowzer http:///forum/thread/380059/is-it-possible-to-have-a-sump-w-o-drilling-holes-in-my-tank#post_3306516
LOL...My overflow is a dual....so it has 2 of the U tubes......As I said before....never had an issue....
what's the difference with a cpr????
The CPR is sleeker in the tank and then it acts as a waterful basically, the airlifter pulls the water from the tank, into the hang on box. It's a dual system only if it has two bulk heads, instead of the two U's the most other systems have. Google the look, it's so different. I think they have a video of how it works too, it's so hard to explain. Honestly, now that I have a CPR, I wouldn't go back to a "regular" hang on overflow box.
btldreef
Moderator
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Originally Posted by scottnlisa http:///forum/thread/380059/is-it-possible-to-have-a-sump-w-o-drilling-holes-in-my-tank#post_3306519
What happens when there is a power outage?
Mine would always loose the suction in the U siphoning tube.
Originally Posted by scottnlisa http:///forum/thread/380059/is-it-possible-to-have-a-sump-w-o-drilling-holes-in-my-tank#post_3306519
What happens when there is a power outage?
Mine would always loose the suction in the U siphoning tube.
