It's not fair

mimzy

mimzy

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anyone who can have it in his head to harm a child - ANY child, be they Amish or otherwise, is a sick, sick, sorry excuse for a human being.
 
oceanists

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Yeah I agree that is just about as sick as you can get .... why did he have to kill innocent children for something he regretted doing to other children when he was a child.... cold cold world .. but we have to live in it so its easier to pay attention to brighter days than dwell on the doom in gloom .... God rest their souls and help the parents and families, but to tell you the truth I am not going to let it keep me down
 
swlover

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ditto...But I think there had to be some signs this guy was loosing it. The wife is blind, or just didn't want to see the signs. I don't believe someone can go thru life being a good father & husband and just one day barracade himself in a shcool house molest and kill children and then himself...there had to be something. Pitty, if she had woken up she may have been able to save their lives. :mad:
 
imurnamine

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...As horrible as his actions were... I have to voice my opinions.
Just like the recent Colorado shooting, I feel the same for this gentleman. When things like this happen, I look deeper than what something really seems to be. I look beyond the surface. What did this man go through when he was a child?
Was he, himself, beaten or neglected, or sexually assaulted?
Things like this don't just pop in someone's head in the morning. Things like this build up over time, one thing after another. I feel deeply sorry for the family of the children murdered by both men, but I also feel sympathy for the murderers...
Sometimes I wish that I could help people like this. So that they don't feel as if they must resort to making other people miserable before taking their own lives...
This is one of the reasons that I have decided to be a therapist for war veterans and troubled teens...
 
soto

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no sympathy here from this cowboy.
everyone's got problems.
problems growing up, problems we're facing now, problems we will face, and the fears of problems that may never even happen. some people have worse problems then others. some people handle their problems differently. if he decided to transfer his past issues into a future strength, use that strength to fuel a Fortune 500 company, become a billionaire then he very well deserves his reward just like the next guy.
well when he decides to go on a shooting spree then the same rule applies. and he's lucky i'm not the ruler of the planet yet cause i would've had him publically tortured as a message for anyone else thinking of pullin this stunt. for now we can just be somewhat satisfied that he's burning in hell.
again, i believe in helping out those who are disabled and have mental problems. i'm not saying they don't deserve special treatment. but, regardless of their conditions, that rule goes out the window when they do something like this.
 
imurnamine

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I'm just soft hearted and considerate.
I try to see things from everyone's perspective before making a decision or judging someone.
 
dogstar

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Doom and gloom sells lots of cars and beer on the 25 hour news chanels and dont look deeper, you will see the real America.
 
soto

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Originally Posted by ImUrNamine
I'm just soft hearted and considerate.
I try to see things from everyone's perspective before making a decision or judging someone.
i'm soft hearted and considerate in general too. those are the keywords though: IN GENERAL. there's times when you can't be soft hearted OR considerate. plenty of times.
there's nothin wrong w/ seeing something from another's perspective and i'm not about to judge this guy's character either. i can say that it's most likely that he was an inconsiderate selfish scumbag due to the circumstances but i can't say it's 100% for sure. so i won't.
nonetheless, you CANNOT, for any reason, bring a gun out and start shooting children in a school that pose no threat to you. no reason. no excuse. if you DO it then you will face consequences. this is how the real world works. now maybe this guy's a lunatic and thinks that in LaLa Land there are no consequences. too bad. the kids aren't in LaLa Land, neither are their parents, the community, me, you or anyone else. we are all in the real world and we will live according to the real world.
 
oceanists

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Originally Posted by ImUrNamine
I'm just soft hearted and considerate.
I try to see things from everyone's perspective before making a decision or judging someone.

Im sorry but anybody who can line up 6 - 12 year olds , ---- and then kill them execution style does not get sympathy from me , nothing can justify those actions , being raised in AINTREE by imbreds doesnt justfy those actions.
This is a sick sick man that deserved to die it is just a shame he took innocent children with their whole lives ahead of them with him.
I dont care if he was raped , molested, beat , fed with a trough and then chained to a tree to sleep for the night. That DOES NOT justify killing children. That is ridiculous,. People need to help themselves including the mentally ill , there are medications AND therapists out there that he chose not to take and see.
Those poor parents did not deserve to have their lives ripped apart by some other morons emotional baggage. And those poor children, for one, did not deserve to be violated before death, and for two, have some numbscull play god and take their lives away prematurely.
When are we going to stop blaming things on insanity or I WAS BEATIN when I was a child. This is a sorry excuse for the weak and I for one am not accepting that as a excuse, neither should the rest of America.
This guys wife should have reported him to the authorities long ago...... I can not wait for stories to unfold.
I hope this guy rots in hell while being violated by images of his bloody victims.
 
phixer

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Im not softhearted or considerate, would rather be fair and rational. That being said. Save all the psychology crap and $$$ in incarceration costs, scumbags like this that dont off themselves should go the head of the line for the chair. Why does this seem to happen so much more in our society?
 
alyssia

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Originally Posted by ImUrNamine
...As horrible as his actions were... I have to voice my opinions.
Just like the recent Colorado shooting, I feel the same for this gentleman. When things like this happen, I look deeper than what something really seems to be. I look beyond the surface. What did this man go through when he was a child?
Was he, himself, beaten or neglected, or sexually assaulted?
Things like this don't just pop in someone's head in the morning. Things like this build up over time, one thing after another. I feel deeply sorry for the family of the children murdered by both men, but I also feel sympathy for the murderers...
Sometimes I wish that I could help people like this. So that they don't feel as if they must resort to making other people miserable before taking their own lives...
This is one of the reasons that I have decided to be a therapist for war veterans and troubled teens...

You may feel differently once you have kids. Lots of people are abused as children, have alot of problems, etc., and they don't take it out on innocent people.
 
dogstar

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I think what ImUrNamine is saying is right on....
When people have issues we hide them, dont want to talk about it, we cover it up or laugh at them, blame it on them or something else, call them names, dont try to help or offer support and so they dont ask for help anymore, ect. ect. Instead of trying to understand or help them with fighting the devils in their minds we dont help so the demonds just take over.
We just wait until they do kill our children.
But I know, thats looking too deep.
 
alyssia

alyssia

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Originally Posted by Dogstar
I think what ImUrNamine is saying is right on....
When people have issues we hide them, dont want to talk about it, we cover it up or laugh at them, blame it on them or something else, call them names, dont try to help or offer support and so they dont ask for help anymore, ect. ect. Instead of trying to understand or help them with fighting the devils in their minds we dont help so the demonds just take over.
We just wait until they do kill our children.
But I know, thats looking too deep.

I personally don't cover up problems, or laugh at people who try to talk about their problems.
 
soto

soto

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Originally Posted by Phixer
Why does this seem to happen so much more in our society?
because the media tries to placate our society as being soft n' tolerable. most of us aren't but the minority liberals out there are given more media exposure because their extremist ways of thinking create controversy, therefore attention, and more advertising revenue follows.
other reasons for excuses rather than justice would be the medical industry collecting more money by diagnosing EVERYbody and EVERYthing with some sort of mental deficiency- and, of course, there's only treatment. no cures. just treatments.
so when we argue this as modern pseudo garbage being fed to insecure parents then hippies can just call us intollerable, the media will hype it up, and the

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keep flowin down throats. i'm pretty sure billions & billions of $$$ backed up by health insurance companies, pharmacuetical firms, and nearly 3/4 of everyone practicing medicine will keep this very well intact. after all, nobody loses except uneducated people that give in to their fears and these people always lose in the end anyways.
it all boils down to $$$. DUH! you don't need to watch a documentary or read an underground book to come to this conclusion. think for yourself and just use common sense. at this pace, we might as well hold Ray Bradbury as the most acurate modern-day prophet.
 
soto

soto

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Originally Posted by Dogstar
I think what ImUrNamine is saying is right on....
When people have issues we hide them, dont want to talk about it, we cover it up or laugh at them, blame it on them or something else, call them names, dont try to help or offer support and so they dont ask for help anymore, ect. ect. Instead of trying to understand or help them with fighting the devils in their minds we dont help so the demonds just take over.
We just wait until they do kill our children.
But I know, thats looking too deep.
who cares. that's been happening since day 1. i've got a gigantic mole right smack-dab in the center of my chin. i was also the shortest kid in the class so do you think i may have been teased a lil bit growing up???
some people are nice. some people are cruel. that's LIFE. sucks if you get teased but doesn't give you the right to do extremist stuff. if someone bullies you and you wanna fight back, then hit him. or don't. but you do NOT shoot people. there's no excuse. i say no tolerance. first offense BAM, public torture. we need to stop sending messages to psychos that we're cool and understanding.
 
alyssia

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Originally Posted by soto
who cares. that's been happening since day 1. i've got a gigantic mole right smack-dab in the center of my chin. i was also the shortest kid in the class so do you think i may have been teased a lil bit growing up???
some people are nice. some people are cruel. that's LIFE. sucks if you get teased but doesn't give you the right to do extremist stuff. if someone bullies you and you wanna fight back, then hit him. or don't. but you do NOT shoot people. there's no excuse. i say no tolerance. first offense BAM, public torture. we need to stop sending messages to psychos that we're cool and understanding.


***) Now we've gotten Soto all worked up....
On a side note, my son is by far the shortest kid in his class. He's 9, in the fourth grade, but people usually mistake him for a kindergartner. We have helped him learn to deal with it. He's not going to grow up and kill people b/c he was teased as a child.
 
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