Lionfish ID and Info about Dwarfs

scott t

scott t

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Originally Posted by Cranberry http:///forum/thread/383088/lionfish-id-and-info-about-dwarfs/100#post_3355157
I think you will be limited by a breeding pair of maroons more than anything. If you get them big enough, the fuzzies won't eat them, but I have no idea on the temperment of a maroon.... let alone a breeding pair.
I was thinking about an Aqua cultured Maroon have read that they are not as aggressive as the wild caught, but I am no expert on them either. Maybe I should just do 1 Maroon then? I am not sure what else would look good or go in the tank with the Lions. I know that I think I read on your site or the comment was made that Lions can be a big bio load. I dont want to go overboard on stocking the tank I want to keep it a simple stock list.
 
cranberry

cranberry

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Our tanks where we can stick feed everything are always pristine clean and run smoothly with just a little macro and a skimmer. It's when you pour food into the tanks that you run into trouble.
One time on my volitan tank, I never cleaned the glass for over 3 months.
 
btldreef

btldreef

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Great discussions going on! Too bad I was without internet all day :-( Stupid snow!
As for the maroons:
Tank bred do tend to be less aggressive. Breeding pairs are usually less aggressive than one single female as well. At least that's been my experience.
 
al&burke

al&burke

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Originally Posted by saxman http:///forum/thread/383088/lionfish-id-and-info-about-dwarfs/100#post_3355128
Al,
I'm assuming we're talking dwarf and/or medium-bodied lions here. A 40 B is a great footprint for dwarf lions. A 55 would be great for dwarf or medium-bodied Pterois sp. such as P. radiata, P. antennata, or P. mombassae.
Some of the macro you've seem in our setups are:
Caulerpa taxifolia (feather), C. racemosa (green grape): Both banned in many states as a noxious weed.
C. prolifera, C. brachypus (sp), C. serrulata (razor), Botryocladia sp. (red grape), Ulva sp. (sea lettuce), Codium sp., Pink Galaxy, Cheatomorpha sp.
I know there are a few more, some un-ID'd, but that is a decent list of what we currently have or have kept.
I have looked some of these up they look really nice, I have to find a supplier up here in Canada. I always loved the pictures of the macroalgaes with the lions I have seen here. The one picture that cranberry with teh tiny violtan in a 6 gallon was that cheato.
 
sparty059

sparty059

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Are Wrasses too small to go into a tank with a Fu Manchu? They seem to be a very tiny skinny fish that can fit in the mouth of any fish. Would you recommend not getting a group of them in my tank?
 
sparty059

sparty059

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I was thinking maybe the six line wrasse. However, I'd really prefer a different type of schooling fish. Any suggestions that can go well with the Fu Manchu?
I currently have 5 PJ's, 2 clowns, 1 blenny.
I plan on purchasing a Yellow Tang, Hippo Tang, and the Fu Manchu.
I wanted to get either another small school of fish, or if possible just another cool looking fish that is compatible with these groups of fish. I have a 150 gallon, 5' long, 2 1/2' tall, 1 1/2' deep tank just so you know.
 
cranberry

cranberry

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If you got a nice big sixline, and got a sub-adult Fu, you'd probably be fine size wise. I'm trying to sit here and picture the two in my head.
A Fuzzy/Barb/Zebra, would slurp one down. I'm just emphasizing that in case someone skipping through this thinks it will work with all dwarf lions.... it's only the Fu that has broader potential tankmates.
 
al&burke

al&burke

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Well I am throwing some ideas around about the 40 gallon dwarf lion tank
Sump/fuge - DIY - approx 15 gallons
Pump - 250 GPH = 6.25 turnover
Lighting - T5HO - enough for some softies and macro algaes
Skimmer or ATS - undecided
Heater - Ehein Jagr
 
cranberry

cranberry

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I would probably bump up the flow. They don't like to be blown around but over the years I've found lower flow tanks just not to be as "healthy". Higher flow will help your skimmer work better as well.
 
al&burke

al&burke

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That sounds good Cranberry - lights 4 24 inch T5HO hung overtop - I really want togrow some nice macro algaes
 
btldreef

btldreef

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I was noticing that some of the dwarfs seem to "swim" while others seen to just "hang out" on the bottom of the tank. At least in pictures I've seen and when I see them in my LFS. I'm terrible at identifying the different species still, can anyone post which ones are swimmers and which just sort of perch and possibly ones that do both (if there are ones that do both)?
 
cranberry

cranberry

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Originally Posted by BTLDreef http:///forum/thread/383088/lionfish-id-and-info-about-dwarfs/120#post_3355597
I was noticing that some of the dwarfs seem to "swim" while others seen to just "hang out" on the bottom of the tank. At least in pictures I've seen and when I see them in my LFS. I'm terrible at identifying the different species still, can anyone post which ones are swimmers and which just sort of perch and possibly ones that do both (if there are ones that do both)?
Bottom dwellers:
Fu
Barberi
Blackfin
The Barberi will swim more in the water column when compared with the other two.
But there are varaibles:

  • They perch more in the day and become more active in the evening for hunting.

  • Smaller specimens are more active. The older they are, the less active they are.
    When they feel insecure, they will perch more.
    When they are hungry and see people as a source of food... they swim.beg more.
 
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