Man Made Global Warming is Confirmed

stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Bang Guy http:///t/388844/man-made-global-warming-is-confirmed/20#post_3432076
I believe I did narrow it to "oil as an energy source" but not all latex is an oil derivitive. Some is from the sap of specific trees.
(it was humor)
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Originally Posted by Bang Guy http:///t/388844/man-made-global-warming-is-confirmed/20#post_3432124
The battery technology in existance today would be adequate if we made the commitment to electric cars. Nuclear would be the best current stepping stone to the next technology breakthrough in electric power generation. All that is needed is to imbed power lines in the roadway. That way all that's needed for a car is an induction coil, an electric motor, and a reasonable amout of battery to get from powered road to powered road. How many roads do you see that have no power lines along them? Yes, there are a few but they are a minority. Bury power cables into the roads and cars lose all that weight they currently have carting around their power source. A rechargeable battery is still a necessity for power outages and unpowered rural roads but replacing an engine with a motor more than makes up for that.
It would take a commitment though...
Sure, 35 miles is plenty... lol, electrically charged roads? Seriously?
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Originally Posted by SnakeBlitz33 http:///t/388844/man-made-global-warming-is-confirmed/20#post_3432129
Whatever we do to get off oil will take commitment, but the powers that be control everything with our dependence on oil - and those that have power and money, generally don't invest it into things that will put them out of business.
Why, what is wrong with using oil? No seriously. We have a product that is cheap, the energy it produces is insane, and we have 100 years of technological development based off of it...
 
bang guy

bang guy

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Originally Posted by stdreb27 http:///t/388844/man-made-global-warming-is-confirmed/40#post_3432147
(it was humor)
Oh $&#&#^$%
I hate it when my sarcasm or humor detector malfunctions.
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Originally Posted by stdreb27 http:///t/388844/man-made-global-warming-is-confirmed/40#post_3432147
electrically charged roads? Seriously?
Think about how much energy is currently consumed by transporatation only because it must carry around it's own power plant and fuel.
Imbedding the power lines in the roads would make it easily accessibly to anything driving over it through induction. So, you would just need a MUCH smaller motor and a power meter instead of a gas tank and a larger engine that can generate its own power.
It's OK if you want to make fun of me. It's just something I've thought about from time to time.
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Bang Guy http:///t/388844/man-made-global-warming-is-confirmed/40#post_3432151
Oh $&#&#^$%
I hate it when my sarcasm or humor detector malfunctions.
Think about how much energy is currently consumed by transporatation only because it must carry around it's own power plant and fuel.
Imbedding the power lines in the roads would make it easily accessibly to anything driving over it through induction. So, you would just need a MUCH smaller motor and a power meter instead of a gas tank and a larger engine that can generate its own power.
It's OK if you want to make fun of me. It's just something I've thought about from time to time.
Well, all I can think about is fried squirrels getting "inducted" lol No but seriously, have you seen what they currently use, for some of the train systems? It isn't friendly... And to interface our cars to it. On our own.
 
bang guy

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If it were buried under a couple/few inches of cement and wrapped in insulation then it would be safe to walk over. Squirrel safe so to speak. The induction motors would be using the magnetic field generated by the power line to run the motor. There would be no direct electric connection.
When I worked for an electric company we calculated that the typical pair of 43kV transmission lines could easily power a 1200 horsepower induction motor through 1/2" of insulation and 4 inches of concrete. Obviously that's a bit of overkill but it gives an idea of the potential.
 
reefraff

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Originally Posted by Bang Guy http:///t/388844/man-made-global-warming-is-confirmed/20#post_3432124
The battery technology in existance today would be adequate if we made the commitment to electric cars. Nuclear would be the best current stepping stone to the next technology breakthrough in electric power generation. All that is needed is to imbed power lines in the roadway. That way all that's needed for a car is an induction coil, an electric motor, and a reasonable amout of battery to get from powered road to powered road. How many roads do you see that have no power lines along them? Yes, there are a few but they are a minority. Bury power cables into the roads and cars lose all that weight they currently have carting around their power source. A rechargeable battery is still a necessity for power outages and unpowered rural roads but replacing an engine with a motor more than makes up for that.
It would take a commitment though...
The problem with batteries is charge time. They are fine for around town but useless for longer trips
 
reefraff

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Originally Posted by Bang Guy http:///t/388844/man-made-global-warming-is-confirmed/40#post_3432192
Well, that's why we need to make to commitment for infrastructure improvements & add power to the major roadways. So that long trips are no problem.
Problem is you'd have to have it powered up 24/7 no matter what the traffic flow is. It would also take years to set up. Can't imagine what the cost would be. One interesting idea would be to do something like that with interstate power lines to power trains or a tram system. I'm thinking build a cluster of Nuke plants on the Kansas/Nebraska border and run the transmission lines and tracks out from there.
 
darthtang aw

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interesting idea on power lines in the road. how much would taxes go up though due to road construction...re surfacing...and the like. how would detours be handled safely? would parking lots be included in this...what about perking garages? why danger is there with flooding....
darth (just a few) Tang
 
bang guy

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/388844/man-made-global-warming-is-confirmed/40#post_3432209
Problem is you'd have to have it powered up 24/7 no matter what the traffic flow is. It would also take years to set up. Can't imagine what the cost would be. One interesting idea would be to do something like that with interstate power lines to power trains or a tram system. I'm thinking build a cluster of Nuke plants on the Kansas/Nebraska border and run the transmission lines and tracks out from there.
I don't think just having it powered up would have any more loss than a regular transmission line.
It would definately take many years to implement the infrastructure. It would take even more years to ramp up the generating stations to match the new consumer. I agree with nuke plants. The new designs are smaller, safer, more secure, and cheaper to operate.
 
bang guy

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/388844/man-made-global-warming-is-confirmed/40#post_3432241
interesting idea on power lines in the road. how much would taxes go up though due to road construction...re surfacing...and the like. how would detours be handled safely? would parking lots be included in this...what about perking garages? why danger is there with flooding....
darth (just a few) Tang
Yeah, this is definately out of the box. I would imagin the costs would have to be built into the billing for the vehicles actually consuming the power. Resurfacing wouldn't be affected. Detours, parking lots, etc. are why the vehicles would still need a decent set of batteries for off grid travel. They can be recharged as soon as they go back on the grid. No more danger with flooding than with the transmission lines that are currently already buried. They're not affected by ice storms or card running into power poles.
 
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I live in Florida, now if we can only install those little bumpers to keep the elderly in their lane
 
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