Man Vs. Wild a fake???

[kogle]

Originally Posted by FlCandy
You can see Les Suffering and slowly loosing his strength while Bear never gets tired and he never looks like he is suffering IMO.

LMAO
Well let's keep in mind that Les (while still an outdoor hero) is just an average guy with some outdoor know how.
Bear is harder than the average man. That guy is an athelete. Think about it. He climbed to the summit of Everest. He served in special forces. Do you know how many top notch soldiers would love to do that but still can't make the cut??? Enough said. I think that's why he doesn't suffer as much.
I'm not undermining what Les does at all. I give him a thumbs up for going it alone but let's be honest, that doesn't make him any better at surviving...
Survivorman would be a great show if it were just a bit more entertaining.

 

[flcandy]

Thats the thing its not to entertain you its to inform you. And that is why I watch Survivor man because I trust him a bit more. I know Bear was in the SO and all over in Brit. But man if I had to take someone's personal experience on the situation I would listen to Les over Bear, doesnt look like Bear has ever had to survive a day on his own and wouldnt know how to if he did. LOL
JM2 cents though. LMAO
You never climb Everest alone either so you know once again he was not alone then.
Les is doing things that may happen to regular people if they are out hiking alone or etc., so yeah, I think he has more credit on his side ya know?
Oh well its everyones own preference and just take what you think will work from the one you like and hope it works, I wouldnt try to do anything Bear does though. (poisoning minnows in a flowing stream is ridiculous)

 

[flcandy]

Originally Posted by KOgle
Well let's keep in mind that Les (while still an outdoor hero) is just an average guy with some outdoor know how.
Bear is harder than the average man. That guy is an athelete. Think about it. He climbed to the summit of Everest. He served in special forces. Do you know how many top notch soldiers would love to do that but still can't make the cut??? Enough said. I think that's why he doesn't suffer as much.
I'm not undermining what Les does at all. I give him a thumbs up for going it alone but let's be honest, that doesn't make him any better at surviving...
Survivorman would be a great show if it were just a bit more entertaining.
Even a SO trained person would get exhausted after 7 days alone and without good food or water.
Everyone does, no one is superman like that no matter how well in shape you are if you dont eat and drink you loose that stamina and go downhill. I have never seen him loose anything in the way of energy so for some reason I believe his crew is feeding him after takes.
JMO

 

[kogle]

First of all he poisoned minnows in a lagoon, not a flowing stream.
Secondly, you don't think the people in special forces know how to survive? You're an idiot if you believe that.
Even boy scouts are taught how to survive... Come on people.

 

[flcandy]

Originally Posted by KOgle
First of all he poisoned minnows in a lagoon, not a flowing stream.
Secondly, you don't think the people in special forces know how to survive? You're an idiot if you believe that.
Even boy scouts are taught how to survive... Come on people.
I never said that and re on the pond thing they stated it was a stream hun no yellin!

I was saying that people with the training still get stressed and tired after 7 days with very little food, and he never looks like he is. Thats all.
SO I guess I am an idiot then? LMAO
No name calling it has been a nice debate up until now!

 

[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by FlCandy
...No name calling it has been a nice debate up until now!

Agreed.

 

[kogle]

Well I'm done debating anyhow.
I was just trying to prove the point that Bear is much more conditioned than Les is. That is going to play a huge roll in how well 4-7 days without food is going to treat you.
if Chuck Norris had his own survival show he'd set the record right...

 

[flcandy]

This is supposed to help NORMAL people survive for 7 days without the training not for a special trained person. Thats all and they say that when they start the show.
I think Les is more like a person than a machine and sorry I dont want to see a marine tell me what to do because I might not be able to JMO.

 

[scotts]

You have to admit it does mean a little more knowing that it is one guy by himself (survivorman) than to have a guy turn to his camera man and say, OK this is what I am going to do.
Plus Les has more realistic adventures. I am more apt to have to know how to build a shelter in the woods due to a plane wreck that have to worry about getting moisture out of elephant dung

(BTW that is when my wife and I turned off the show)
Also do most of you watch this while you laying in bed like we do? Something weird about that.....

 

[1journeyman]

The thing I also like about Survivorman is that he carries realistic gear. I've seen "Bear" use the ropes from his parachute...

 

[ruaround]

in the few episodes of Survivorman that i have seen he gets rescued instead of finding his way out... in one episode he makes camp next to a river and stays for like 2 days and waits for a helicopter to come get him... i like how Bear tries to find a way out in every episode...

 

[scotts]

I do like how survivroman will be stuck with a broken smowmobile and he can only use the spare parts off that. He does spend a week trying to find his way out and makes no bones about the fact that the crew will pick him up at a certain spot at the end of the week.
I think Bear just makes his way to a shady spot so the guy driving the Land Rover can pick him and the the camera crew up on the way to the Hotel.

 

[ruaround]

then Bear needs to be nominated for an Academy Award for Actor of the Millenium!!! and the editors and stunt men should get behind the scenes awards too!!!

 

[ophiura]

All I know is my husband is a geologist who would spend months of the year in field camps in the Canadian Rockies and NW territories, often by himself or just with an assistant (flown in and dropped there) - lots of bear country and such.
He has just plain laughed during the "man vs. wild" show.
Often total recklessness, and if you were truly alone, truly lost, truly trying to survive, I don't think you would do have the stuff he does. From the standpoint of reality, the Survivorman show is just that, more realistic. It is not exciting to be lost and on your own. And sometimes, as many survivalists say, staying put is the best choice when lost.
So in terms of entertainment value, sure, give it to Man vs. Wild. But in terms of reality TV and what you might actually do, then the nod goes to Survivorman in my book, by far.
This concept that we can't joke about people doing things we couldn't do is off base, IMO. We do this all the time, it is the nature of entertainment - sports, actors, and just about everything else we can't do that we comment on.

 

[emporer angel]

my favorite show!!!

 

[polyps]

I'm sorry, bear he rocks by the way he never rode a horse he tried to tame one
but was bucked off and he had to walk his way out

 

[polyps]

Originally Posted by FlCandy
Does he use it though? And how often is Bear alone?
I still give Les More credit for what he does.
Nothing is staged he is dropped off and then left to find his way out. Bear has a group of people there to help him if he needs it.
Sorry but a sat phone isnt much help if you have no reception.

Les doesn't need a crew he barely leaves the camera frame bear is having to exit extreme places so he has to use extreme methods i'll admit he cheated once or twice by using parachete cords and "just because you don't see his camera crew doesn't mean there isn't one

j/k oh and one last thing bear gets a brief before every trip if you watch the credits you will see a survival expert for every place

 

[happyvac]

Originally Posted by ophiura
All I know is my husband is a geologist who would spend months of the year in field camps in the Canadian Rockies and NW territories, often by himself or just with an assistant (flown in and dropped there) - lots of bear country and such.
He has just plain laughed during the "man vs. wild" show.
Often total recklessness, and if you were truly alone, truly lost, truly trying to survive, I don't think you would do have the stuff he does. From the standpoint of reality, the Survivorman show is just that, more realistic. It is not exciting to be lost and on your own. And sometimes, as many survivalists say, staying put is the best choice when lost.
So in terms of entertainment value, sure, give it to Man vs. Wild. But in terms of reality TV and what you might actually do, then the nod goes to Survivorman in my book, by far.
This concept that we can't joke about people doing things we couldn't do is off base, IMO. We do this all the time, it is the nature of entertainment - sports, actors, and just about everything else we can't do that we comment on.
Agreed. Following Bear's advice would most likely give you hypothermia for attempting to raft down that river, severe illness from drinking water from elephant feces, dehydration from drinking urine, and a broken back from trying to climb a waterfall.

 

[scotts]

Originally Posted by ruaround
then Bear needs to be nominated for an Academy Award for Actor of the Millenium!!! and the editors and stunt men should get behind the scenes awards too!!!

You of course mean an Emmy not an Academy award.....

(I do have to admit I never knew this before I got married)
And Hey, you said he had a stuntman not me.

 

[perfectdark]

I think we are trying to understand the difference between this guys survival skills and the televisions duty to keep their ratings up. Is he real? IMO yes absolutly.. I have 2 close friends of mine that are special forces, one is a Ranger the other Seal. The survival skills he uses are acurate. The thing that I think we seem to be missing is this guy was in the British Special forces, and has climbed to the top of Mount Everest, you dont do that with an Eagle scout badge. The British Special Forces are extremly brutal and their survival skills are remarkable. Having said that I also believe that he needs to play up to the audience for ratings. He does openly admit to having a camera crew with him that do not go thru what he does. I also believe that although he makes it appear that he is going to be in big trouble if the scenerios he plans dont work he will ultimately get help if its life threating. just my 2 cents