My 150g

mooseythemoron

mooseythemoron

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Originally Posted by florida joe http:///forum/thread/381993/my-150g#post_3331130
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Originally Posted by JAXFishGirl http:///forum/thread/381993/my-150g#post_3331116
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Originally Posted by florida joe http:///forum/thread/381993/my-150g#post_3330990
Much worse than before is like being a little pregnant, you either have GHA or you don’t. Removing by hand and using snails can never really assure you have gotten it all. Trust me I know. You need to sterilize the rocks with the algae.
FYI the method used by most if not all public aquariums to sterilize is bleach
And how would you go about this process?
I use one part bleach to 3 parts water solution. Let the rocks soak for 15 min or as long as ½ hour. Take the rocks out of the bucket you are using to bleach. Rinse with a hose or under your faucet. Continue to rinse until you no longer smell bleach on the rocks. Put the rocks back into a bucket with clean fresh water and add one of the products available at all pet stores to neutralize bleach and you are good to go
What do you mean by BLEACH?? Are you saying to use Detergent ???
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Originally Posted by mooseythemoron http:///forum/thread/381993/my-150g/20#post_3331195
Hey Meowzer, thanks

So, its OK to use bleach?? Are we talking abt Chlorox, Tide etc? Wont it harm the fish once you put it back in the tank...
Doesn't matter what type...Heck...I'd use store brand, but I don't think I'd use the scented
The most important thing is to make sure you RINSE RINSE RINSE......until you smell NO bleach
 
sparty059

sparty059

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Well last night I tried to remove the rocks. It's actually far more difficult that I had thought which made me make the ultimate decision to leave them in there and just hope it goes away by being eaten. I even tried to remove it by hand and that didn't even do a good job at that! Far more difficult than I had thought it to be which made me decide it'll ultimately be easier to just leave it be than removing all of my rock (since most of the rock with GHA is near the bottom of the tank). I'm going to be buying fish down the line that will be soley there just to eat the algae and I will also see what I can do as far as chemically removing it.
On another note!
I decided to put up or shut up. I didn't want to see myself spending $50+ in a one stop shop day but I decided I wanted to get five (yes that's right FIVE) pajama cardinals so I can have a nice little school in my tank. They're working on the acclimation process as we speak currently almost in there for one hour at the time being... two more to go... ugh. I'll take pictures once in the tank, but with company coming over tomorrow I figured I wanted my tank to look a bit more lively than four fish (one of which run at the sight of its shadow when company is around...
). I will now have the following in my tank (all have been *processed* through the drip acclimation with no QT (I find the only reason to QT right now is if I am going to be purchasing a fish that is VERY likely to come with sickness, or if it looks sick to start)):
1 Black and White Clown
1 Orange and White Clown
1 Lawnmower Blenny
1 Sleeper Goby
5 Pajama Cardinals
2 Peppermint Shrimp
2 Turbo Snails
10 Astera
10 Cerith
10 Whatever the TINY little snails are
ONE
emerald crab
I believe that is all I have in my tank now... I know I have some starfish roaming around in there.... Oh! I also have the GSP, Hammer Coral, and unwillingly Sun Coral.
These are all very small fish so I'm assuming for a 150 gallon I have plenty of stock room left and can fit plenty more in there. Correct or Foolish to think on my part? When I speak of fitting plenty I mean one hippo tang, and a few other fish that will all be compatible but possibly grow to be anywhere from 1-4" and then maybe one other that will be 5-9" big as well. What is everyones thought?
 
florida joe

florida joe

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My friend I will you well with your tank. That being said and I am very sorry to say this but you will in time wish you addressed the complete removal of hair algae in your tank
 
sparty059

sparty059

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I can't imagine that I'm truly the first one to decide not to remove it with bleach. I've read stories of people removing it with chemicals or with inverts/fish. I know it won't remove it completely but it'll remove a good portion of it. Anyway, I'm moving in ten months so when I move the tank I will bleach the rock then when I have to take everything out already as it is.
 
florida joe

florida joe

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Originally Posted by Sparty059 http:///forum/thread/381993/my-150g/20#post_3331673
I can't imagine that I'm truly the first one to decide not to remove it with bleach. I've read stories of people removing it with chemicals or with inverts/fish. I know it won't remove it completely but it'll remove a good portion of it. Anyway, I'm moving in ten months so when I move the tank I will bleach the rock then when I have to take everything out already as it is.
I never said that you HAD to remove it with bleach but i feel you need to remove it completely, why would you wait with a chance for good algae growth on your rocks and then bleach them. as i stated good luck with your tank
BTW that’s an interesting concept on putting fish in quarantine
 
meowzer

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Sparty....GHA can be removed manually and with fish, and with VERY VERY diligent tank maintenance.......I had it really bad in my 225G and it took me months to get rid of it
I bought a lot of emerald crabs, turbos, astreas, nerites, a seahare (which later died of starvation) and EVERY NIGHT I literally picked at it with tongs and what I could reach with my finger tips...IT WAS GRUELLING....but I no longer have any algae....
the bleach will kill it now.....
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Sparty...I have to agree with Joe....as much as it pains me...LOL....IF...you were to do the bleach method, NOW would be the proper time, before your tank gets full of GOOD life...10 months from now there will be a LOT of beneficial life on those rocks
ALSO.....he is saying bleaching will get rid of all the HA NOW....w/o the painful removal procedures I endured
AND.....If you are gonna QT...do ALL.....there is no way, or no such thing as a certina fish that is likely to be sick......the reason people qt...is to prevent ANY type of disease, bacterial, fungal etc....from entering our tanks
remember.....any fish can have ich and not show it as first
 
sparty059

sparty059

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Wellllllll... I don't have many fish in my tank as it is, so I'm going to let them all join in there with no QT. I promise to QT from now on though! Also, I will do as you did, and just endure the pain of it. To be honest I can see it being far worse for me to take out 200 lbs of rock to bleach it now and then deal with pushing all of the sand around again and replacing all of the rock work. I know there will be additional life on the rock 10 months from now, but I'm hoping I won't have this bad of a problem 10 months from now as well. If it's still bad then I suppose shame on me and I should have just done it now, but I'm going to take the odds on and say I have a chance to remove it with pretty much the method you did, and as grueling as it may be, it's really the best option for me at the moment.
 
flower

flower

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Originally Posted by Sparty059 http:///forum/thread/381993/my-150g/20#post_3331673
I can't imagine that I'm truly the first one to decide not to remove it with bleach. I've read stories of people removing it with chemicals or with inverts/fish. I know it won't remove it completely but it'll remove a good portion of it. Anyway, I'm moving in ten months so when I move the tank I will bleach the rock then when I have to take everything out already as it is.

I refuse to use bleach in my tank, so you are not alone.
I have a 90g tank, I'm careful (NOW) to not overfeed. I have a Blue Spotted Kole tang, a lawnmower Blenny and a Dwarf Lemonpeel angelfish. I do regular water changes of RO water only, keep phosphates at 0. I got rid of my hair algae and have been free of it for over a year now.
 
sparty059

sparty059

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Originally Posted by Flower http:///forum/thread/381993/my-150g/20#post_3331687
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Originally Posted by Sparty059 http:///forum/thread/381993/my-150g/20#post_3331673
I can't imagine that I'm truly the first one to decide not to remove it with bleach. I've read stories of people removing it with chemicals or with inverts/fish. I know it won't remove it completely but it'll remove a good portion of it. Anyway, I'm moving in ten months so when I move the tank I will bleach the rock then when I have to take everything out already as it is.

I refuse to use bleach in my tank, so you are not alone.
I have a 90g tank, I'm careful (NOW) to not overfeed. I have a Blue Spotted Kole tang, a lawnmower Blenny and a Dwarf Lemonpeel angelfish. I do regular water changes of RO water only, keep phosphates at 0. I got rid of my hair algae and have been free of it for over a year now.
We sound like we're part of a Algae Anonymous group. "I'm free of it for over a year now!" :)
On a serious note - I'm glad the two of you spoke up (Flower and Meowzer). I also don't like th idea of using bleach, and was almost cringing at the thought of using it thinking it was the only way. Glad that are other options. I know they won't work as quickly, but they will work regardless... and that's all that matters in my mind.
 
florida joe

florida joe

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Sparty first let me say I am on your side or more to the point I am on the side of this hobby. So I must respond but if you rather I did not post any more just let me know.
Now I have to ask what the rush is. You are adding more fish because your friends are coming over?
Let’s say your 150g tank does come down with ick how you do plain on handling it ?
Flower how bad was your algae
BTW you have a 150g tank, i envy you
 
sparty059

sparty059

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No no Joe. I don't want you to get the impression ever that I don't want you to comment. I like to hear every point of view. Who knows one day I may agree with you and disagree with Meowzer. I do have a QT properly set up right now with all the proper water levels and everything waiting for that uh oh moment. If something is to happen I can take quick action and move everyone into the QT and treat as needed. I'm in a "rush" because I like to have the fish in my tank. I lack the patience quality that is needed with this hobby but from what I have seen and read before I'm not the only one that skips the QT for all fish. I know the consequences and will be ready to deal with them when/should it arises. I feel I maintain my tank properly and well enough to make sure the are not stressed. I check on them daily to make sure they don't show any signs of sickness... if they show even the slightest I freak out and post on the fourm to see what to do. I haven't had any problems thus far (knock on wood) and hope to continue this streak of healthyness going. Also, keep note all the fish I have been adding are all very hardy so although sickness is a possibility it's not common.
 
sparty059

sparty059

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Also, my pajama cardinals have been drip acclimating for about 2 hours... do you guys think that's long enough? I've been noticing SWF.com has been giving a greater acclimation time than when everyone on the forum says and what people in the store say... I didn't ask regarding these guys though.
 
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