My Little Piece Of The Ocean... 46g Bow Front Build

phillyboi

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Originally Posted by Flower http:///t/391191/46-gallon-bow-front-build/40#post_3470704
It is bad if the bubbles are in the tank..it is good if the bubbles are in the container..rising up into foam to go into the cup.
they are going in to the tank... why is this bad doesn't the ocean create these micro bubbles when the waves crash against each other...
...how can i fix this...don't get me wrong the skimmer is working fine the bubbles are rising up into foam and going in the cup but getting some micro bubbles in the take as well...
 
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siptang

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ooops sorry read everything wrong.
Lois, please delete my post.
 

flower

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I was told that micro bubbles can hurt the fish...something about oxygen getting trapped in the gills. Big bubbles from say an air line without a stone are okay. but not the tiny microbubbles that HOB skimmers are famous for when they are not working right.
I am not familiar with your skimmer so I'm no help there, but microbubbles are not good.
 

phillyboi

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Originally Posted by Flower http:///t/391191/46-gallon-bow-front-build/40#post_3471097
I was told that micro bubbles can hurt the fish...something about oxygen getting trapped in the gills. Big bubbles from say an air line without a stone are okay. but not the tiny microbubbles that HOB skimmers are famous for when they are not working right.
I am not familiar with your skimmer so I'm no help there, but microbubbles are not good.
can i do with out the skimmer for now i do still have an emperor power filter 400 on the tank....
 

phillyboi

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decided to do some aqua landscaping what do you guys think i opened up the cave a littile so i can get a better view in the cave i'm also getting some lime green algae growth is that telling me that the cycle is almost done...
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flower

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Originally Posted by phillyboi http:///t/391191/46-gallon-bow-front-build/40#post_3471347
decided to do some aqua landscaping what do you guys think i opened up the cave a littile so i can get a better view in the cave i'm also getting some lime green algae growth is that telling me that the cycle is almost done...
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I like it...but I have to ask..
Did you build the rock on the sand, or is the sand over the rock? Sand shifts, and I see you didn't build too high it could still crush a critter. The rock must be on the bottom of the tank, and push the sand over and around it.
 

phillyboi

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flower http:///t/391191/46-gallon-bow-front-build/40#post_3471349
I like it...but I have to ask..
Did you build the rock on the sand, or is the sand over the rock? Sand shifts, and I see you didn't build too high it could still crush a critter. The rock must be on the bottom of the tank, and push the sand over and around it.
yes i moved the sand then i setup the rock then pushed the sand around the rock flower...lol...i remember when you told me that when i first started my build....how about the lime green algae is that telling me that the cycle is almost done
 

flower

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Originally Posted by phillyboi http:///t/391191/46-gallon-bow-front-build/40#post_3471352
yes i moved the sand then i setup the rock then pushed the sand around the rock flower...lol...i remember when you told me that when i first started my build....how about the lime green algae is that telling me that the cycle is almost done
Hi,
Ah...a person who listens to advice...

The only thing you can rely on to tell you about the cycle are water tests. You need your own lab type test kits. Since everything in a fish tank relies on the water, it only makes sence to get your own test kits.
Algae can grow when there is ammonia and nitrite present. It may mean you have nitrate present which indicates something happening but you can't trust it for deciding if you can add a fish yet, since the other two are deadly. Also remember the tank is always cycling. As soon as you add a critter (CUC or fish) that critter goes poop and that becomes ammonia and the cycle continues. The goal is to build up enough good bacteria that it can re-adjust fast enough to depleat the new ammonia before it can harm the new arrival. That's why we add critters very slow one at a time, giving the tank time to re-balance.
I copied this very informative info for you:
Nitrate is a chemical compound of one part nitrogen and three parts oxygen, hence the symbol NO3. It is a naturally occurring ion, a product of the oxidation of nitrogen by micro-organisms in plants, soil and water. In the aquarium, bacteria produce nitrate from nitrite, which itself comes from ammonia and ammonium. Nitrate is thus a form of nitrogen.
Algae is a plant, and all plants need nitrogen as one nutrient. As I explained in two prior threads, plants have the ability to use all three forms of nitrogen normally available in an aquarium: ammonia/ammonium, nitrite and nitrate; but most prefer to use the free ammonia or ammonium. Algae and plants need more than just nitrogen, they also need CO2, macro-nutrients and micro-nutrients, and all this in the presence of light.
Algae generally occurs from an excess of organic materials and poor water quality, or an excess of nutrients. In the absence of higher plants, these nutrients are readily available since they enter the aquarium through fish food and water. An excess of soluble iron can also cause a bloom of single-celled or filamentous "green" algae. Another reason to avoid dosing individual iron unless it is in balance with all 17 nutrients that plants require.
It is therefore possible to have nitrates without having algae, if the other nutrients required for algae/plants are not present. Similarly, algae can be present without nitrate since the algae does not need nitrate in order to obtain its nitrogen. Without nutrients, there can be no algae.
In aquaria with problem algae, the nitrates are usually high. Nutrients that feed the algae also contribute to the nitrogen cycle, along with the fish and other bacteria. Excessive levels are bound to impact several processes ongoing in the aquarium.
Read more: http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/aquarium-plants/what-relationship-between-nitrate-algae-30605/#ixzz1syFV6QfX
 

phillyboi

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i do have a test kit actually i am going to do a test right now i been doing a test about once a week since i setup my tank checking to see if i got a spike which i did and the last time i checked the ammonia was going down some so i'm going to see where are the levels at now...thanks for the info flower..
 

phillyboi

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just did a water test and my water levels are
ph - 8.2
nitrite - 0
ammonia - 0
nitrate - 80
should i do a water change to get the nitrate down i read this some where but don't remember where
 

phillyboi

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Originally Posted by phillyboi http:///t/391191/46-gallon-bow-front-build/40#post_3471433
just did a water test and my water levels are
ph - 8.2
nitrite - 0
ammonia - 0
nitrate - 80
should i do a water change to get the nitrate down i read this some where but don't remember where
can someone help please...should i do a water change to get the nitrate down and what would be the ideal gallons of water to change for a 46 gallon tank...after the water change what should i do..wait a couple of days and test the water again...
 

phillyboi

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Originally Posted by Flower http:///t/391191/46-gallon-bow-front-build/40#post_3471486
Wait 1 week and re-test...are you going to quarantine the new fish?...
should i do a water change then wait one week and re-test or just wait one week and re-test with out doing a water change....never did the quarantine thing in the past when i had my 30 gallon setup and never had any issues but i do have a 6 gallon nano cube fish only tank that i have two clowns in and been setup for about a year now which the clowns are going in my 46g when the cycle is done...
 

flower

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Quote:
Originally Posted by phillyboi http:///t/391191/my-littile-piece-of-the-ocean-46g-bow-front-build/40#post_3471491
should i do a water change then wait one week and re-test or just wait one week and re-test with out doing a water change....never did the quarantine thing in the past when i had my 30 gallon setup and never had any issues but i do have a 6 gallon nano cube fish only tank that i have two clowns in and been setup for about a year now which the clowns are going in my 46g when the cycle is done...
I would do the water change, wait a week and re-test. (continue to ghost feed) If everything is good to go, you can add the clowns. By ghost feeding you are keeping ammonia in the tank but the good bacteria is abundant enough to handle it, a good sign that it will be able to handle your fish waste as well.
I would set up a QT while the system adjusts to the clowns. Then after quarantine add another fish...it will kind of force you to space the new arrivals properly, and make sure they are healthy enough to not cause problems for the DT.
 
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