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drex

drex

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vettes for me are just to common, you know how many i raced in my neon? how would you feel to have a modded vette and get your ass kicked by a neon, a jeep, a magnum, anything like that? its a slap in the face and i like to be that person :) not to be mean its just more fun to have a sleeper. im not saying dodge is the BEST vehicle available in any way, for what you pay they have some sick stuff out right now comparing to OTHER american cars. cams etc arent to crazy, look at hahn race craft at the twin turbo setups for the srt-8 lineups. puts out alot more power then most cars can. the GTO was a giant flop IMO it was not impressive at all. do some looking you can find them price jumped all over the place. i was looking at one for that at a local dealer last yr but it may have been the 06 model for sale in 07. even jump the price up,your still quite low for all the options and all around performance you get.
 
agent-x

agent-x

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Originally Posted by drex
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okay then ill go back on my word and re phrase, put things in the price category then. the jeep is so much cheaper, but is still damn close to what is mentioned;) put suv's vs eachother, cars vs eachother, etc. read what i posted. dodge has the fastest truck, the fastest SUV,their srt-4 was the fastest car under 20g at one time and still holds that for quite a bit higher price range then that,the srt-8 cars vs pretty much anything in the 35-40g range, the viper alone owns, they have a sick line up, you can knock all you want but just think about it. i would hope a ford gt beats a jeep srt-8, and hell i hope a brand new vette does to! which really it doesnt..unless you buy the best! and if you do that then compare it to the viper. for american car variety dodge is holding their lineup above the rest for what you pay and what it gives.
If you're talking on straight price, for the money it may be the best for the money. But I'd gladly take my old $27k 2006 350z I had and put the other $14,000 left over in mods (to meet the $41k price tage of the jeep) and put them head to head on a road track, like the Harris Hill Road track here (just south of Austin). I'd take the Z every time.
 
drex

drex

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you cant say that owning a jeep srt-8 wouldnt be fun to go out and smoke some mustangs and vettes and riceboys and all the other people rolling around. i dont know about where your at but its not very often you find anything even close to 420 hp creepin around on the street.and 350Z's are sick cars themselves, like i said i have nothing against imports. i am talking AMERICAN car lineups here. since the post was started all about american cars. i would love an rx-7 or 8. i would love a wrx sti, but i would also love a jeep srt-8 for an suv :) they are comfortable reliable vehicles they look tough as hell and have plenty of power when you want to have occasional fun.
 
aquaknight

aquaknight

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Originally Posted by drex
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dodge engineers designed the new vettes buddy did you not read what i posted above? 9 of 13 of the viper engineers did it. that would be the reason it looks like a knock off of the viper.
Yes I did. That is a pretty bold claimed with numbers generated from somewhere. I spent 15mins on google only to come up with nothing remotely close. Proof?
Originally Posted by drex
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haha well compare the top vette, bring out the hennessey viper.
What does this have to do with anything? The ZR1 is the top Corvette built by GM. Hennessey has little to do with Dodge. If you wanna play that game, look up the Lingerfelter Corvette. It destroyed the Hennessey Viper.
Originally Posted by drex
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gm sucks balls and thats about what i have come up with in the past few years.
Classy. I guess that assumption is based off one car, your fiance's car, which she apparently bought used. Great

Originally Posted by drex
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the srt line up stock runs faster then vettes. the vettes and gto's run a consisten 13.8 ..my 98 neon with 2 grand into it went 13.1 on a 100 degree day.and srt-4's can pull 13.4's with a decent driver.and the jeeps i have seen down to 12.9's stock.
What?!? The old 400hp ZO6 run low 12's stock, the new ZO6 runs high 11's and there's no telling what the ZR1 will run (maybe 10's stock?)
Originally Posted by drex
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the cobalt SS was supposed to school the srt-4 also, NEVER happened not even close.
> Look up the Track Attack Cobalt GM built, it destroyed everything it competed against including 600hp EVO, skylines and supras.
Originally Posted by drex
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my 98 neon with 2 grand into it went 13.1 on a 100 degree day.and srt-4's can pull 13.4's with a decent driver.and the jeeps i have seen down to 12.9's stock. and i just have to mention it even though its not a dodge, my buddies civic hatch was turbocharged, and he beat a supercharged built corvette with a 150 shot and a built bottom end at the track. doesnt say much.
Terrific, on anyday any car can beat the other. A "10 second" Civic beat a Corvette, whoopy do.
Originally Posted by drex
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...the viper and vette have always been 2 way different styled cars and now its just a copy..IMO they ruined the vette.and the ford GT, comparing a 1/2 million dollar car to a $35,000 jeep? get real. again the hennessey viper! makes more then that.
The Ford GT is a $150,000 car. A fair bit cheaper then that $250,000+ Hennessey.
Originally Posted by drex
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but facts stick.
Couldn't agree any more.
 
agent-x

agent-x

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They would be fun, but I probably couldn't afford the gas in it. Jeeps get horrible milage as it is, I can imagine how bad that thing would be.
 
drex

drex

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haha well for one i built my car and the civic was built by us ;) and second NO F'in way do corvettes run that because i SCHOOOOOOLED SOOO many of them in my NEON!!! they run 13's. as the gto's run HIGH 13's with a PROO driver. this is all realistic things that i have seen in person MANY times . not just a one time judgement. the new vette 10'? get real when i saw its big add they were hoping 12's. how do i know all of this? i worked at a GM dealer for 2 yrs. biggest mistake of my life, but i needed a job and thats where i learned all of this. from everyhting sitting right in front of me. compare the built cobalt, bust out the built srt-4 that does fairly well itself. this whole topic was started about STOCK cars how many times do i have to say this to you? a STOCK corvette vs a STOCK jeep srt-8 for example, look it up buddy :) mustang vs stock gto's etc. some cars respond to mods alot different but as i have said atleast 2 times now dodges STOCK STOCK STOCK "can you see that"??? STOCK lineup has the highest numbers, they dont just have one or two fast cars, they have MANY more sitting available right now.my main reasoning for GM is that they use so much cheap crap in their cars"as i noticed while i worked there". people at my work agreed with me on the vette design, just look at the front!!! its a viper knock off!! i wont argue anymore i put in my 2 cents and opinions, but look at the AMERICAN cars available and see who has MORE impressive cars available. even if the vette did rock, what else does gm have that even compares? the gto failed, cobalt "stock" slow, the trailblazer SS was slow and terrible, they have alot of issues that are going on with them right now..being the reason they are not selling very well. i have the videos and stuff of my car doing it, have you built your car? im living off actual instances , not internet . everyhting on the net changes around so much..videos, timeslips, dynos, thats where it proves. not what places say or post up. i have seen vettes running high 14's, why is that? because someone cant drive. its not the cars fault. i have seen srt-4's run 15's!!! thats what a normal neon can pull!!! its all the driver in the long run.
 
aquaknight

aquaknight

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I'm not the one needs to remember stock, you're the one that really likes restating 100 times per post your "built neon" beat a corvette or two.
STOCK STOCK can you see that? STOCK STOCK ZO6 running 10's Little research will show other's running 11's all day long.
http://www.z06vette.com/forums/f114/...-flats-108217/
Perhaps you just need to stop picking on newbs with Corvettes (since they out sell Dodges so much
)
As far as what else GM has, look up the 2009 CTS-V. That's going to be a world class car that will compete with the best the world has to offer.
 
agent-x

agent-x

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Originally Posted by drex
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this whole topic was started about STOCK cars how many times do i have to say this to you? a STOCK corvette vs a STOCK jeep srt-8 for example
I've already shown you stock versus stock the corvette has better numbers. You say "yeah, but it's the best vette" yeah, but the SRT8 is the best Cherokee too. How many times do you have to be proven wrong. Are you sure you were not a car salesman when you worked for GM.
 
drex

drex

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im no car salesman thats for sure, ill leave it at this and not repeat myself anymore. i personally think dodges lineup has more to offer for what you pay and more variety IF you care about going fast especially keeping it stock. as i worked in the parts department for a gm dealer i know the very common problems that come up do to them using cheap / old technology parts and believe me i did ALL of the warranty i know all the problems. the vettes may be fast right off the bat but can you not say a jeep that is just as fast isnt hilarious? a daily driven stock SUV that has that kindave power?, im not into common every day vehicles you see all the time. i like the sleeper effect as i said. not very many people can afford a corvette right away in life, but you could easily scoop up an srt-4 or a used srt-8 and have fun right off the bat. for american cars thats what i think, i dont have 50 grand to blow so i wouldnt buy a vette, however stock vs stock a vette sits about where the dodges do " i saw consistent 13's at the track" and the gto runs high 13's which to me i would take a vette any day over the gto because it doesnt even look mean,as it really isnt. but if you dont want american cars , then there is alot i could name off but i wont get into that. my opinion is stated. but i wouldnt say GM out sells dodge so much,they are hurting much worse then dodge and ford at the moment being the reasons i have mentioned above.best vette vs best cherokee, if you want to spend that much cash to beat a jeep go for it, but for what you pay dodge is giving the bang for the buck.be a little reasonable here a regular vette is more then the jeep. thats how i personally go by things in cars, what performance you get for what cost. to add-- i have to say though...im not a huge fan of many of the new american cars at all, including dodge. the only ones i would take is the jeep/300c/charger srt-8. im not a fan of the new boxy style of cars. i like my liberty limited that is my daily driver now and would love to get an srt-8 as my new. thats my reasoning so i can do all my hauling etc and still have my fun. im not looking to run 8's but 420 hp will allow me plenty of fun.tell me you wouldnt drive this..?i wont lecture anymore,its my personal preference.


 
aquaknight

aquaknight

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Originally Posted by drex
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im no car salesman thats for sure, ill leave it at this and not repeat myself anymore.
I am done arguing as well. You seem to think based on your limited experience that every Corvette only runs 13's with what I can assume are anything but race car drivers.
Originally Posted by drex
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but i wouldnt say GM out sells dodge so much,they are hurting much worse then dodge and ford at the moment being the reasons i have mentioned above.
Couldn't be further from the truth. The only reason GM may seem to be 'hurting' is that they are so much larger then Chrysler, when they slip, they just slip that much further. Just like the Rush thread and the unemployment rate, if GM looses 4% and Chrysler is down 7%, GM has a lower percentage, but lost more cars due them being that much larger intitially.
Originally Posted by drex
http:///forum/post/2575504
not very many people can afford a corvette right away in life, but you could easily scoop up an srt-4 or a used srt-8 and have fun right off the bat. for american cars thats what i think, i dont have 50 grand to blow so i wouldnt buy a vette, however stock vs stock a vette sits about where the dodges do " i saw consistent 13's at the track" and the gto runs high 13's which to me i would take a vette any day over the gto because it doesnt even look mean,as it really isnt. but if you dont want american cars , then there is alot i could name off but i wont get into that.
Why would you compare a new Corvette to a used SRT4/8? Look at prices of used Corvettes. A 2005 Vette is right there were what a SRT8 would cost, they aren't that expensive. Again, I'm glad you saw a Corvette run a 13, welcome to the world of learning that everyone can't drive.
Here are times for STOCK STOCK STOCK C6's http://wheeltalk.fancal.net/?p=597 Plenty of people down into the 12's (even low 12s).
Originally Posted by drex
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not looking to run 8's but 420 hp will allow me plenty of fun.tell me you wouldnt drive this..?i wont lecture anymore,its my personal preference.
Drive? Sure. Own? Unlikely, would just sell/trade for one of the Cadillac V-series cars. The new 2009 CTS-V and make payments or a flat trade for the old CTS-V or make payments on $10,000 for the difference on a STS-V (drool....
).
 
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