My prob with Noobs

lion_crazz

lion_crazz

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Originally Posted by Crashbandicoot
I'm sure as wise as the mods are even they have a time or two when they learn something new . Its about discusion . Bouncing ideas and opinions off of each other . whats worked for you might not work for me whats worked for somebody else might be better suited to my needs .
Its ok to ask questions its ok to give answers its ok to not have answers its even ok to be wrong but most of all its good to keep learning and sharing opinions .
This whole post could not have summed it up any better.
The first part of what you said just happened last week, in fact! Someone asked a "noob" question about low pH. Well, low and behold, it spurred discussion and I actually learned something I did not know before about buffering.
 
nano reefer

nano reefer

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Originally Posted by 05xrunner
wait..SOO since you been lurking for a while and have a low post count doesn't make you a noob. I hate that word anyway.
So what is a noob to you. Someone new to SW, someone new to the internet. Id rather have people answer questions. Because its a new thread and there might be a new member around at that point that could add another really good piece of advice that is not in an old thread. so if it wasn't asked again that vital piece of information might never be heard.
a noob to me, is a person with little information, and just posts like there's no tomorrow about topics already discussed, and they expect us to answer like *snap*. They take us for granted. While they are witing for us to answer a question we have already answered 5 times that day, they could be searching the site, reading other threads, or goggle-ing it.
 
nano reefer

nano reefer

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Originally Posted by Crashbandicoot
I'm sure as wise as the mods are even they have a time or two when they learn something new . Its about discusion . Bouncing ideas and opinions off of each other . whats worked for you might not work for me whats worked for somebody else might be better suited to my needs .
Its ok to ask questions its ok to give answers its ok to not have answers its even ok to be wrong but most of all its good to keep learning and sharing opinions .
well yes we learn new stuff everyday, but not on threads like "Nitrates 200 ppm!" or "red slime help" or "will a tang fit in my nano?". Posts like that, stupid questions with simple answers in the archives. We dont not learn anything new from those threads. Now a more advanced topic like "How do you feed a sun coral?" are topics that people can share their ideas/experiences with.
 
renogaw

renogaw

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nano, you're losing badly and it's time to drop it.
help people, don't help people, learn what you can, pass on what you can, whatever. the truth is, lots of people feel they are the only person in the world having THEIR problem, because it is happening to them. and it is insanely easier to get personal, one on one attention, by posting your own question.
so, stop spending the energy fighting with people about whether or not a post should be posted, and spend the energy helping the "newbs" so they don't ask em anymore, and can start answering them.
 
05xrunner

05xrunner

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Originally Posted by Nano Reefer
well yes we learn new stuff everyday, but not on threads like "Nitrates 200 ppm!" or "red slime help" or "will a tang fit in my nano?". Posts like that, stupid questions with simple answers in the archives. We dont not learn anything new from those threads. Now a more advanced topic like "How do you feed a sun coral?" are topics that people can share their ideas/experiences with.
then go start your own forum with one HUGE search button in the middle of it.
I am sure the first SW tank you setup you already knew EVERYTHING and never had to ask 1 single question huh?
 
earlybird

earlybird

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I admit I didn't read all the posts on this but I'm sure they are as I expect. Do you remember when you were a noob and this forum was difficult to navigate, post pics etc.? Heck the "search" function has even changed since I've been on here. It's slightly more difficult to find what you are looking for. Just skip the threads you don't want to participate in. It's that simple.
 
renogaw

renogaw

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Originally Posted by lion_crazz
This whole post could not have summed it up any better.
The first part of what you said just happened last week, in fact! Someone asked a "noob" question about low pH. Well, low and behold, it spurred discussion and I actually learned something I did not know before about buffering.

btw, not nice.... you made me search to find out what you found out about buffering...
 
teresaq

teresaq

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I admit, I like helping new people with things I know about (not much)
but I have only been in this hobby a couple of yrs. If we all ignored the new peoples questions, we wouldnt have much of a community.
The new person you help today, maybe a new friend tomorrow.
WOW, I just noticed I joined in jan of 05 - Where has the last three yrs gone
 
paintballer768

paintballer768

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Like someone said earlier in the thread, "noob" questions can, and possibly, result in new information. I would definitely consider myself a "noob". I mean when I was 12 I had my first saltwater tank with a 3" coney grouper and some damsels, but I didnt know any better and either did my dad. Now that Im on here, I realize how much space individual fish need to be happy. I would have never known that without coming on here and reading all of the "noob" questions.
When I had cyano, I searched for things that cause it and couldnt quite understand why they wouldnt go away. Someone told me all the symptoms and it helped a ton. Same with diatoms.
Some responses need to be tailored to individual situations, and Im sure every "noob" that posts a question and gets an answer to it, as relevant as the search feature may be, is so thankful for it. I know I was when I was gathering information on how to start my tank, and I can guarantee you, I would rather answer beginner questions than have them go to an unreliable LFS and get so many wrong answers (nothing against LFS owners/workers here, Im just stating that most places are out to make the most money, and some will bend the truth to do so.)
PS: Viva la "noob"!!!
 
pontius

pontius

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Nano Reefer, you're missing the point of what Ophiura said.....you're getting on people for asking repetitive questions, but this same topic comes up at least once a year. so basically, you're guilty of doing exactly what you're complaining about.
 
bronco300

bronco300

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easy way to fix...just go to another forum nano reefer...there are many many others that don't have any new people with no new repetitive questions

you may find yourself to be the only person, but hey...no repetitive questions, what could be better?
 
bang guy

bang guy

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Originally Posted by ruaround
i just counted and you have 14,000 posts of "Yep", 2,000 of "Yup", 3,000 of "I Agree", 1,000 of "Great pix keep em comin" and 2,100 of "Hey your tank looks good!"...
I reject your reality and insert my own. (Myth Busters)
 
m0nk

m0nk

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Originally Posted by lion_crazz
I am really glad this thread received the response that it did. "Noob questions" are not only NOT a problem, but they are necessary. It keeps us thinking, learning.
Anyone who knows me knows my saying: "The only stupid question is the one that is not asked."
Exactly my thought. I've learned more by researching when a new user asks a question than by actually posting new threads. Every time a new question comes in, if I don't know the answer but want to know, instead of waiting for other people to chime in, I use my experience manipulating searches for my own benefit and either find old posts here or use Google to track down data. I also, always, check back over and over and even if I've posted what I believe to be the correct response, I like to see what others think. Anecdotal consensus really plays into the majority of responses here, and it's a great way to learn about your own setup without ever asking a question.
 
crashbandicoot

crashbandicoot

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Originally Posted by Nano Reefer
well yes we learn new stuff everyday, but not on threads like "Nitrates 200 ppm!" or "red slime help" or "will a tang fit in my nano?". Posts like that, stupid questions with simple answers in the archives. We dont not learn anything new from those threads. Now a more advanced topic like "How do you feed a sun coral?" are topics that people can share their ideas/experiences with.

Just because your not learning stuff doesnt mean that somebody else isn't. I'm not familiar with the threads your refferancing but the thing is this . Some people are not familiar at all with the hobby and they need help on the most basic of things . Other threads are troll threads . This is not a problem that only exists here it is on every forum I frequent . Instead of worring about it Pass these threads over and dont give them any more power by adding to them . You cant change others but you can change how you react to them .
 
coral keeper

coral keeper

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Originally Posted by renogaw
nano, you're losing badly and it's time to drop it.
help people, don't help people, learn what you can, pass on what you can, whatever. the truth is, lots of people feel they are the only person in the world having THEIR problem, because it is happening to them. and it is insanely easier to get personal, one on one attention, by posting your own question.
so, stop spending the energy fighting with people about whether or not a post should be posted, and spend the energy helping the "newbs" so they don't ask em anymore, and can start answering them.

Originally Posted by earlybird
I admit I didn't read all the posts on this but I'm sure they are as I expect. Do you remember when you were a noob and this forum was difficult to navigate, post pics etc.? Heck the "search" function has even changed since I've been on here. It's slightly more difficult to find what you are looking for. Just skip the threads you don't want to participate in. It's that simple.
Well said!
 
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