Need to decide which firearm to get
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cam78
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Shot gun if you don't care about anyone else in the house. With Buck shot you are spraying all over the place. Slug you are going to MAKE SURE YOU HIT YOUR TARGET, because if you don't it is going through walls and people. Stay with a hand gun. Concealable, safer, and does damage. Get a 40cal. Glock is what we use in PD. They are the most reliable and easy to fix if you ever need to replace something. Trust me there is nothing like a Glock. look at the 23 model, small 40 cal.
bionicarm
Active Member
Originally Posted by oscardeuce
http:///forum/post/3223868
Some circle are recommending using higher velocity bullets. One thought is that slower/heavier bullets (.45ACP) will hold together and "punch through" a wall, while smaller high velocity bullets (55g .223) hit the drywall at such a velocity they basically disintegrate and do not penetrate.
This was demonstrated in an old "Mythbusters" episode where they were firing into water. They tested many calibers up to .50 BMG. The results surprised me. Watch the episode and see what you think. I spoke with the MB "sergeant of arms" on this and he also reccomends (and uses) 55g .223 for home defense.
I saw that episode. Wasn't that part of the James Bond myths about whether someone swimming under water could actually get shot?
http:///forum/post/3223868
Some circle are recommending using higher velocity bullets. One thought is that slower/heavier bullets (.45ACP) will hold together and "punch through" a wall, while smaller high velocity bullets (55g .223) hit the drywall at such a velocity they basically disintegrate and do not penetrate.
This was demonstrated in an old "Mythbusters" episode where they were firing into water. They tested many calibers up to .50 BMG. The results surprised me. Watch the episode and see what you think. I spoke with the MB "sergeant of arms" on this and he also reccomends (and uses) 55g .223 for home defense.
I saw that episode. Wasn't that part of the James Bond myths about whether someone swimming under water could actually get shot?
bionicarm
Active Member
Originally Posted by oscardeuce
http:///forum/post/3223861
Let's see if I can help you with some facts. I'm a NRA life member, and my father was on the NRA board of directors.
There are a few bills out there we are watching
HR 45 is one. It has been blown out up a bit, but after actually CALLING the NRA ILA, they gave me a straight forward answer.
You just have to look to Ca to see what we may all be facing
BTW, I thought we already had the little discussion about liberals and name calling. I see you don't listen well.
Would you prefer 2nd Amendment Advocates?
http:///forum/post/3223861
Let's see if I can help you with some facts. I'm a NRA life member, and my father was on the NRA board of directors.
There are a few bills out there we are watching
HR 45 is one. It has been blown out up a bit, but after actually CALLING the NRA ILA, they gave me a straight forward answer.
You just have to look to Ca to see what we may all be facing
BTW, I thought we already had the little discussion about liberals and name calling. I see you don't listen well.
Would you prefer 2nd Amendment Advocates?
reefraff
Active Member
What I've always heard is the high speed ammo pierced so it was more stable and tended to go through multiple objects better while the slower moving rounds like the 45 would tear and begin to tumble which kills the velocity much faster. I know a 10mm super sonic round will go through plywood like it's nothing. Had enough left to punch through a 55 gallon drum the plywood was laying against.
bionicarm
Active Member
That's what I like about the .45. That tumbling factor you described can do some major damage to flesh when hitting a human target. If someone breaks into my home, I want to make sure that if I only hit him one time, that one shot could potentially be fatal, instead of just wounding the assailant and giving them the opportunity to counterattack.
ironeagle2006
Active Member
That is why I prefer the Shotgun. Even having the Chamber empty when you rack a round into the chamber the future target aka Morge slab filler is going to go OH CRAP and then do that in his or her pants. Now with a Pistol yeah easier to handle however take a 12 gauge remove the stock and cut the barrel to 19 inches Still LEGAL but man you can use it in close. Just make sure when you do pull the trigger that no tanks or anything else you want to keep are in the muzzle line.
yearofthenick
Active Member
Just went and paid for my shotgun today! I'll pick it up on the 24th. Got it at big 5 for $279, normally $369.
I'm going down to another gun shop to see if they have any S&W .40 hand guns. Hopefully I'll get that one also!
I'm going down to another gun shop to see if they have any S&W .40 hand guns. Hopefully I'll get that one also!
yearofthenick
Active Member
I went down to a local shooting range and they ordered my S&W Sigma .40... I took the HSC test and passed, but my favorite question was:
While Transporting a handgun, you should:
a. Keep it unloaded in the trunk
b. Loaded, but under the passengers seat out of reach
c. Loaded in the glove box
d. none of the above
Honestly guys, that test was so idiot proof.
While Transporting a handgun, you should:
a. Keep it unloaded in the trunk
b. Loaded, but under the passengers seat out of reach
c. Loaded in the glove box
d. none of the above
Honestly guys, that test was so idiot proof.
mastertech
Member
Originally Posted by DragonZim
http:///forum/post/3223180
but also take into consideration that there is no mistaking the sound of a shotgun being cocked and I have heard from a number of people, all veteran gun owners, that that sound would often be enough to make a would be home invader think twice.
a home invader....... in my house would never hear that sound or any sound other than the crisp snap of a sear releasing the hammer.
my shotgun is already loaded.
http:///forum/post/3223180
but also take into consideration that there is no mistaking the sound of a shotgun being cocked and I have heard from a number of people, all veteran gun owners, that that sound would often be enough to make a would be home invader think twice.
a home invader....... in my house would never hear that sound or any sound other than the crisp snap of a sear releasing the hammer.
my shotgun is already loaded.
reefraff
Active Member
Originally Posted by mastertech
http:///forum/post/3228588
a home invader....... in my house would never hear that sound or any sound other than the crisp snap of a sear releasing the hammer.
my shotgun is already loaded.
I happen to have a couple pistols withing reach but neither are Daniel Boon. If the economy takes another downturn I might have to rethink that.
http:///forum/post/3228588
a home invader....... in my house would never hear that sound or any sound other than the crisp snap of a sear releasing the hammer.
my shotgun is already loaded.
I happen to have a couple pistols withing reach but neither are Daniel Boon. If the economy takes another downturn I might have to rethink that.
jtt
Member
Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3228658
I happen to have a couple pistols withing reach but neither are Daniel Boon. If the economy takes another downturn I might have to rethink that.
when i get my next place I want to have a few that are loaded and strategically placed around the house so they are within reach.
http:///forum/post/3228658
I happen to have a couple pistols withing reach but neither are Daniel Boon. If the economy takes another downturn I might have to rethink that.
when i get my next place I want to have a few that are loaded and strategically placed around the house so they are within reach.
socal57che
Active Member
Originally Posted by YearOfTheNick
http:///forum/post/3228509
I went down to a local shooting range and they ordered my S&W Sigma .40... I took the HSC test and passed, but my favorite question was:
While Transporting a handgun, you should:
a. Keep it unloaded in the trunk
b. Loaded, but under the passengers seat out of reach
c. Loaded in the glove box
d. none of the above
Honestly guys, that test was so idiot proof.
What concerned me was the fact that you can miss quite a few and still pass. IMO, it's just about the money and impeding your efforts to own a gun.
http:///forum/post/3228509
I went down to a local shooting range and they ordered my S&W Sigma .40... I took the HSC test and passed, but my favorite question was:
While Transporting a handgun, you should:
a. Keep it unloaded in the trunk
b. Loaded, but under the passengers seat out of reach
c. Loaded in the glove box
d. none of the above
Honestly guys, that test was so idiot proof.
What concerned me was the fact that you can miss quite a few and still pass. IMO, it's just about the money and impeding your efforts to own a gun.
J
jstdv8
Guest
IMO taurus pistols are kinda like cheap skimmers, you get what you pay for. thye are ok if you only intend on shooting it a few times in its life, but if you are talking about going to the range and shooting it enough to be efficient i wouldnt trust my life on it after its been well used. They are cheap for a reason.
Also, you don't need to buy a handgun specifically designed to shoot shot, rounds are available for most common calibers of handguns, they arent as powerful as te one posted, but they will certainly throw a few BBS out there with minimal kick. easy for the old lady to use.
Personally I have a shotgun with slugs in one closet and a .44 nearby my bed.
I'm pretty good with both as i was raised around guns my whole life and have always had my own range on our property to become efficient.
I do like the idea of the laser on the pistol for personal protection, gives it more of a point and shoot witout having to see much of anything.
training is going to be the biggest thing no matter what you choose.
you certainly dont want to shoot te wrong target or alow the wife to use it without training even though you may have taken courses only to have her shoot herself in the leg or something.
In most instances just the sight or sound of a gun in the hands of the homeowner is enough to get the bad guy to turn tail.
lets hope we all get proper training but never have to use it for the purpose we trained for
Also, you don't need to buy a handgun specifically designed to shoot shot, rounds are available for most common calibers of handguns, they arent as powerful as te one posted, but they will certainly throw a few BBS out there with minimal kick. easy for the old lady to use.
Personally I have a shotgun with slugs in one closet and a .44 nearby my bed.
I'm pretty good with both as i was raised around guns my whole life and have always had my own range on our property to become efficient.
I do like the idea of the laser on the pistol for personal protection, gives it more of a point and shoot witout having to see much of anything.
training is going to be the biggest thing no matter what you choose.
you certainly dont want to shoot te wrong target or alow the wife to use it without training even though you may have taken courses only to have her shoot herself in the leg or something.
In most instances just the sight or sound of a gun in the hands of the homeowner is enough to get the bad guy to turn tail.
lets hope we all get proper training but never have to use it for the purpose we trained for
stdreb27
Active Member
Originally Posted by YearOfTheNick
http:///forum/post/3228509
I went down to a local shooting range and they ordered my S&W Sigma .40... I took the HSC test and passed, but my favorite question was:
While Transporting a handgun, you should:
a. Keep it unloaded in the trunk
b. Loaded, but under the passengers seat out of reach
c. Loaded in the glove box
d. none of the above
Honestly guys, that test was so idiot proof.
Where is "loaded in a holter strapped between your legs on the front seat."
http:///forum/post/3228509
I went down to a local shooting range and they ordered my S&W Sigma .40... I took the HSC test and passed, but my favorite question was:
While Transporting a handgun, you should:
a. Keep it unloaded in the trunk
b. Loaded, but under the passengers seat out of reach
c. Loaded in the glove box
d. none of the above
Honestly guys, that test was so idiot proof.
Where is "loaded in a holter strapped between your legs on the front seat."