Need to decide which firearm to get

[mastertech]

Originally Posted by YearOfTheNick
http:///forum/post/3223375
Crap... we're still basically even. Anyone else want to vote?
I left something out of the taurus recommendation.
i ALWAYS tell EVERYONE in the market to buy a gun.....
"Buy the gun that YOU like... dont buy what other people tell you to get because ultimately you are the one that is going to be using it. Its good to inform yourself and get opinion but all that opinion is worth about as much as you paid for it..... nothing"
i think if you voted for the handgun you SHOULD GET IT because deep down that what YOU want. but i still recommend going to the range with like minded people as yourself and shooting as many differant guns as possible before commiting to a purchase.
and on a side note, spend your money on reliability and quality before anything else. its better to buy the right gun the first time.

 

[yearofthenick]

That's it. I'm waiting for the 15th and buying both guns with my next paycheck.

 

[kjr_trig]

Can I vote for getting a Siberian Tiger???
I have also been considering getting a gun for home protection, have held off thus far....Home security system and 2 biggish dogs have me feeling somewhat safe.
I went shotgun.

 

[nwdyr]

being Italian and from Chicago , I say handgun...and handgun

shot guns are fun in the woods , but in close spaces ( like your house) Definitely a hand gun.

 

[florida joe]

Originally Posted by mastertech
http:///forum/post/3223280
TAURUS JUDGE. .45 Colt/.410 Shotshell revolver
the way to go

 

[reefraff]

This would be sweet

Ruger 454 Alaskan. Basically a cut down Super Redhawk 454 Casull so it is beefy enough a lady should be able to handle 410 shot shells or even a colt 45 out of it just fine.
My brother has one. If it was dark you wouldn't even need to hit the target if you use the 454 round, it shoot flames about 4 feet out the barrel, just blind them with the flash

 

[stdreb27]

what did I see both? I win! But that is a good point, an 870 is probably a better gun than the mossberg.
Dude this is what you need.
http://www.kimberamerica.com/product...ltra_carry_II/

 

[fishtaco]

Originally Posted by YearOfTheNick
http:///forum/post/3223299
Haha that's funny. We have a 110-lb yellow lab that barks whenever someone knocks on the door. I agree he is probably the best method of deterrent, but if an intruder persists, I want to be ready.
That's the thing about my cattle dog, she does not bark. She is all business.
Fishtaco

 

[louti]

I guess it's a matter of opinion, but I love the 500's. I have one and know many people who have them with no issues. Smooth pumping and the safety position is just so much better. 870's are good too, but ultimately the safety makes the difference for me.

 

[bionicarm]

Originally Posted by YearOfTheNick
http:///forum/post/3223479
That's it. I'm waiting for the 15th and buying both guns with my next paycheck.

Just fill out your tax return. You'll get tons back to buy whatever you want on the Obama Savings Plan!

 

[yearofthenick]

Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3223692
Just fill out your tax return. You'll get tons back to buy whatever you want on the Obama Savings Plan!

Haha I knew it would turn political at some point. But the truth is that we are dealing with the issue of the government soon tightening their grip on firearms. To be honest, a subsequent factor of my purchasing a handgun first is because I know it's only a matter of time before they become nearly impossible to obtain. Have you guys heard that the government might require each bullet purchased to have a serial number on it? And each time you buy these bullets, you need to have your fingerprints associated with them? It's getting pretty crazy.

 

[yearofthenick]

Originally Posted by louti
http:///forum/post/3223687
I guess it's a matter of opinion, but I love the 500's. I have one and know many people who have them with no issues. Smooth pumping and the safety position is just so much better. 870's are good too, but ultimately the safety makes the difference for me.
I'm just going to get the Mossberg because it's cheap. I'm not going to be hunting in the woods every season with it so I'm not too concerned about the brand. The safety seems a little cheap though... not a fan of a plastic switch on the back cover behind the bolt....
... but I'll get over it

 

[el guapo]

Originally Posted by DragonZim
http:///forum/post/3223180
take into consideration that there is no mistaking the sound of a shotgun being cocked

In the dark that sound alone is going to say I'm about to ruin your day.

Blus you can load the shotgun in this order and its going to ruin somebodys life in a hurry should you use it , Dove and quail-00 buck shot-Slug.... Peppers them then blows a few big holes and then finishes it off with a nice 50 CAl slug ....

GOOD NIGHT IRENE !

 

[bang guy]

Originally Posted by EL GUAPO
http:///forum/post/3223757
In the dark that sound alone is going to say I'm about to ruin your day.

Blus you can load the shotgun in this order and its going to ruin somebodys life in a hurry should you use it , Dove and quail-00 buck shot-Slug.... Peppers them then blows a few big holes and then finishes it off with a nice 50 CAl slug ....

GOOD NIGHT IRENE !
If it ever happens I am hoping that the sound of loading a round in the shotgun is all that's required. Good point.

 

[bionicarm]

Originally Posted by YearOfTheNick
http:///forum/post/3223726
Haha I knew it would turn political at some point. But the truth is that we are dealing with the issue of the government soon tightening their grip on firearms. To be honest, a subsequent factor of my purchasing a handgun first is because I know it's only a matter of time before they become nearly impossible to obtain. Have you guys heard that the government might require each bullet purchased to have a serial number on it? And each time you buy these bullets, you need to have your fingerprints associated with them? It's getting pretty crazy.
Come on Nick. Don't let the Tea Baggers make a decision for you. There's also a rumor the NRA cooked that conspiracy theory up just to boost gun and ammo sales. Nothing like boosting sales when you tell the masses a particular product will no longer be available down the line. Kind of goes along with those commercials for the 'Limited Edition' stamps and coins you see on the QVC Network.

 

[oscardeuce]

Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3223842
Come on Nick. Don't let the Tea Baggers make a decision for you. There's also a rumor the NRA cooked that conspiracy theory up just to boost gun and ammo sales. Nothing like boosting sales when you tell the masses a particular product will no longer be available down the line. Kind of goes along with those commercials for the 'Limited Edition' stamps and coins you see on the QVC Network.

Let's see if I can help you with some facts. I'm a NRA life member, and my father was on the NRA board of directors.
There are a few bills out there we are watching
HR 45 is one. It has been blown out up a bit, but after actually CALLING the NRA ILA, they gave me a straight forward answer.
You just have to look to Ca to see what we may all be facing
BTW, I thought we already had the little discussion about liberals and name calling. I see you don't listen well.

 

[oscardeuce]

Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3223245
So does that extra energy equate to the possibilty of a .40 slug penetrating an exterior wall, which is one of the concerns the OP has about shooting a handgun in his home?

Some circle are recommending using higher velocity bullets. One thought is that slower/heavier bullets (.45ACP) will hold together and "punch through" a wall, while smaller high velocity bullets (55g .223) hit the drywall at such a velocity they basically disintegrate and do not penetrate.
This was demonstrated in an old "Mythbusters" episode where they were firing into water. They tested many calibers up to .50 BMG. The results surprised me. Watch the episode and see what you think. I spoke with the MB "sergeant of arms" on this and he also reccomends (and uses) 55g .223 for home defense.

 

[oscardeuce]

Originally Posted by Bulldog123
http:///forum/post/3223399
The problem with a long barrel weapon is its easier for someone else to control. Think of it this way, you come around a corner what is the first thing making it. If they do get the end it will be easily taken off the target. For this reason I would go with the hand gun. Now if im depressed I use the shotgun. JMO
I use my first gun at home. 1942 Inland M-1 Carbine with bayonet (the first thing around the corner). The carbine has a long rifle sighting advantage with "pistol" type ammo in a compact package. This one one of the "problems" with it in WWII. Good from short to medium range, and if you need that head shot from 25ft, no problem.
As to someone else controlling the gun. it would be difficulty with 8 inches of steel in you.
I shoot it monthy, have it locked, but can get it within seconds. My 25 yard group is 1.5 inches over iron sights. I've owned this gun for 32 years, we are very close. I

 

[stdreb27]

well I feel compelled to share. I don't think obama is going to be able to pass what I would think would be his dream gun bill. (taking guns away, rounding up the "teabaggers" and putting them into re-education zones)

Ok seriously, I doubt he'd be able to pass any major bill making handgun illegal. At the beginning of his term I'd of thought maybe legislation similar to the Brady Bill but not so much mow. But I do think he'll try to make owning a gun a pain in the rear. Either by adding taxes, another layer of bureaucracy or by non-legislative means.
Personally I doubt he would try any of that till he got re-elected (god forbid).
Do I think the NRA is a giant conspiracy theory? Nope, just look at his voting record. I look at it as more of the Bush doctrine, strike first.

 

[oscardeuce]

Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/3223903
well I feel compelled to share. I don't think obama is going to be able to pass what I would think would be his dream gun bill. (taking guns away, rounding up the "teabaggers" and putting them into re-education zones)

Ok seriously, I doubt he'd be able to pass any major bill making handgun illegal. At the beginning of his term I'd of thought maybe legislation similar to the Brady Bill but not so much mow. But I do think he'll try to make owning a gun a pain in the rear. Either by adding taxes, another layer of bureaucracy or by non-legislative means.
Personally I doubt he would try any of that till he got re-elected (god forbid).
Do I think the NRA is a giant conspiracy theory? Nope, just look at his voting record. I look at it as more of the Bush doctrine, strike first.
I agree. A regulatory agency, let's say the EPA comes out and regulates lead in bullets due to "ground water" issues. No more lead, you have to use something else either more expensive, or harder on your receiver/barrel.
That's how the dear leader will work.
Speaking of the voting record, homw many times did he vote "present" again?