New way to cure ich?

florida joe

florida joe

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Originally Posted by ecooper
http:///forum/post/2534949
I don't know about any of this, but I did successfully stop an ick infestation a coupld of months ago. I don't know if is ick is always present or not, but it seems like it would have to be to some extent. Here's my reason for thinking.
My flasher wrasse suddenly had white spots after moving from the QT (no signs in the QT tank) to the main tank. Well, unfortunately, I couldn't catch him in the live rock. So, I did two things:
1. I bought a skunk cleaner shrimp who are supposed to keep down parasites. And the wrasse used him.
2. And, when I topped off my tank with fresh water, I waited until the wrasse went by and poured it directly on him (kind of like a freshwater dip in the main tank).
Well, either I got lucky or it worked, because it took care of the ick and no one else got it...
Ok I just want to make sure I have the procedure right I may want to try this my self, the fish showed signs of ick in your 75g DT and when you had to top off with fresh water you waited until he was at the top and pored the fresh water into you 75g DT and on your fish. I will give that a try when the occasion arises
 
salty blues

salty blues

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Originally Posted by florida joe
http:///forum/post/2535055
Ok I just want to make sure I have the procedure right I may want to try this my self, the fish showed signs of ick in your 75g DT and when you had to top off with fresh water you waited until he was at the top and pored the fresh water into you 75g DT and on your fish. I will give that a try when the occasion arises
If that doesn't work, try a little snake oil on the fish's tail!
 
ecooper

ecooper

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Originally Posted by florida joe
http:///forum/post/2535055
Ok I just want to make sure I have the procedure right I may want to try this my self, the fish showed signs of ick in your 75g DT and when you had to top off with fresh water you waited until he was at the top and pored the fresh water into you 75g DT and on your fish. I will give that a try when the occasion arises
Like I said, don't know if it worked or if I got lucky. May have been primarily the shrimp, but the sudden change in salinity couldn't have been good for the ich.
 
ecooper

ecooper

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Ah, so I take it salty blues (and maybe others) doesn't think too highly of my treatment procedures. Well, that's just fine, every person is entitled to his or her own opinions, right?
Like I said, I don't have any idea if it worked or I got lucky, but I applied what I have read works (cleaner shrimp keeping down parasites and the sudden change in salinity with freshwater dips) with what I could work with at the time (couldn't catch the fish) to come up with something 'outside the box'.
With that said, I hope someone else tries this and it works so people can eat their words.
 
florida joe

florida joe

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Originally Posted by ecooper
http:///forum/post/2536997
Like I said, don't know if it worked or if I got lucky. May have been primarily the shrimp, but the sudden change in salinity couldn't have been good for the ich.
Ecopper my friend I mean this will all due respect but you have a 75g tank even if you toped off with 5g of fresh water you would not have made a significant change in the salinity in your tank. There is only one stage of the life cycle of ich that is affected by salinity at a level where there can be no reproduction. For you to reproduce a fresh water dip in your DT by the method you state is imposable
 
morval

morval

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i never heard of garlic curing anything. i have heard of it as being a preventative and imune booster for fish. so if there healthy and u put garlic in there food they are less likely to get sick
 
ecooper

ecooper

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Originally Posted by florida joe
http:///forum/post/2537249
Ecopper my friend I mean this will all due respect but you have a 75g tank even if you toped off with 5g of fresh water you would not have made a significant change in the salinity in your tank. There is only one stage of the life cycle of ich that is affected by salinity at a level where there can be no reproduction. For you to reproduce a fresh water dip in your DT by the method you state is imposable
Oh. So when you replied to my statement earlier saying you would "give that a try when the occasion arises", you were just being a smartalec?
Well, I certainly understand why sometimes newbies have such a difficult time on this website. I've not ever been made to feel completely stupid on this website until now.
Thank God I don't treat my students like this...
 
fats71

fats71

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Originally Posted by ecooper
http:///forum/post/2537567
Oh. So when you replied to my statement earlier saying you would "give that a try when the occasion arises", you were just being a smartalec?
Well, I certainly understand why sometimes newbies have such a difficult time on this website. I've not ever been made to feel completely stupid on this website until now.
Thank God I don't treat my students like this...
Sorry your having a bad experiance with some peoples sense of humor. I did too when I first joined a couple months ago but now I take it with a grain of salt and read their other posts its just their way of having some fun.
In the first week I got pissed offf after a few people jumped on me for certain things and I had to let it go said sorry for my part as did theyl No one here is trying to be disrespectful I assure you.
 
al mc

al mc

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Originally Posted by ecooper
http:///forum/post/2537567
Oh. So when you replied to my statement earlier saying you would "give that a try when the occasion arises", you were just being a smartalec?
Well, I certainly understand why sometimes newbies have such a difficult time on this website. I've not ever been made to feel completely stupid on this website until now.
Thank God I don't treat my students like this...
As Fats indicated it is unfortunate that you feel that you were treated badly. Open internet forums allow for the posting of varying opinions in varying ways. Until you get used to the inhabitants of a forum it can be difficult to separate the message from the messenger. It benefits everyone to have healthy discussions about various experiences they have had the swf hobby.
IMHO you were lucky if your combination of a cleaner shrimp and a flash of
fresh water dip eliminated the Ich parasite from your fish and/or your tank. Maybe I, and others, will eat our words if that proves to be a reproducible scientific way to eliminate Ich. Currently, the only proven ways to eliminate Ich are hyposalinity or copper for fish in a QT and a fallow tank for 6 weeks. Other bottled treatments, nutriceuticals (like garlic) may help a fish(es) fight off the symptoms of Ich, but will not eliminate it.
 
florida joe

florida joe

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Originally Posted by ecooper
http:///forum/post/2537567
Oh. So when you replied to my statement earlier saying you would "give that a try when the occasion arises", you were just being a smartalec?
Well, I certainly understand why sometimes newbies have such a difficult time on this website. I've not ever been made to feel completely stupid on this website until now.
Thank God I don't treat my students like this...
Copper my remarks were made with the utmost respect, that being said let me just say that as a teacher I am sure you are an intelligent person. So lets look at the fresh water theory. A fresh water dip is just that, putting your fish in a fresh water bath for a prescribe amount of time. You state you have a seventy-five gallon tank and lets say your salinity is 1.025. And you’re toping off your tank due to evaporation. For arguments sake you are going to add two gallons of water. Now even if your fish was motionless and you poured two gallons of water directly on him how can you possibly believe you are going be able to have him in a fresh water environment for any length of time let alone 3 plus minutes that most people recommend ANY Way WELCOME TO THE BOARDS one thing I can assure you it that you will develop a thick skin
 
ecooper

ecooper

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Originally Posted by Al Mc
http:///forum/post/2538013
As Fats indicated it is unfortunate that you feel that you were treated badly. Open internet forums allow for the posting of varying opinions in varying ways. Until you get used to the inhabitants of a forum it can be difficult to separate the message from the messenger. It benefits everyone to have healthy discussions about various experiences they have had the swf hobby.
IMHO you were lucky if your combination of a cleaner shrimp and a flash of
fresh water dip eliminated the Ich parasite from your fish and/or your tank. Maybe I, and others, will eat our words if that proves to be a reproducible scientific way to eliminate Ich. Currently, the only proven ways to eliminate Ich are hyposalinity or copper for fish in a QT and a fallow tank for 6 weeks. Other bottled treatments, nutriceuticals (like garlic) may help a fish(es) fight off the symptoms of Ich, but will not eliminate it.
Thanks to you and Fats71 for perfectly reasonable and appropriate answers. I'll count myself lucky that the ich (or whatever it was) didn't settle in my tank and try my best to ignore the children.
 
florida joe

florida joe

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Originally Posted by ecooper
http:///forum/post/2538241
Thanks to you and Fats71 for perfectly reasonable and appropriate answers. I'll count myself lucky that the ich (or whatever it was) didn't settle in my tank and try my best to ignore the children.

Lol AND THE CHILDREN SHALL LEAD THEM
 
salty blues

salty blues

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Originally Posted by ecooper
http:///forum/post/2538241
Thanks to you and Fats71 for perfectly reasonable and appropriate answers. I'll count myself lucky that the ich (or whatever it was) didn't settle in my tank and try my best to ignore the children.

That makes me feel young(er)!
 
lesleybird

lesleybird

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My outbreak of ich a couple of months ago went away with a high wattage UV filter with a very slow flow rate and my cleaner neon goby. The cleaner neon goby does a much better job than any cleaner shrimp that I ever had. I found that if the cleaner shrimp are well fed they get lazy and don't clean much, my goby cleans the fish all day long. Lesley
 
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