Newbie in Need of General Advice

stevej

New Member
Hi guys, so I've dreamed of having a salt water aquarium for the last few years, and that's to an awesome wife, this christmas I'll be making the investment. I have many questions, but I'll start with just a few! I'd really appreciate some advice/suggestions!
1. I'm 99.9% sure I'm going to buy a Nano Cube, but I'm not sure if I want th 12 or 24 gallon any advice?
2. Assuming I buy the nanocube, other than fish, what will I need to get the tank up and running (ready for fish/coral).
3. Any good book on getting my tank ready?
4. What kind of live rock should I buy, and how much?
Thanks in advance!!!
 

meowzer

Moderator
I'm no expert, but I would get the bigger one...I have a 225g and a 54g and still feel like I need more room.
Get the better lights (Metal Halide) yes they are expensive, but if you want corals you'll need them.
I bought "The Conscientious marine Aquarist" by Fenner...good book
Live Rock, they say 1 lb per gallon (at least) as far as what kind I bought figi premium...I have to order everything online cause I live in the boonies, you may have better options.
 

meowzer

Moderator
I don't know what lights come with the nano cube deluxe...They could be, you just have to see what they are rated for. I am sure they will specify in the information section of your product.
 

patriot54

Member
You will need:
salt
thermometer
hydrometer or refractometer (refractometer is better)
heater
powerhead (for mixing salt or for more water movement)
net
protein skimmer
fish food
I think I have it all, I'm sure I'm probably missing something tho.
 

meowzer

Moderator
I looked it up...the 24g nano deluxe says it has 3watts per gallon of light, and according to most people on this site, that should be good for most corals.
 

rotarymagic

Active Member
Ok since you're gonna have to modify any nanocube to begin with.. why not get a better tank instead?
A "finnex 30gallon 6x24w T5HO" is on special for 479.99 just google it. MUCH better tank that a nanocube.
I've heard that replacing the skimmer is about the only mod needed or you could remove it entirely... up to you. It really depends on your bioload and feeding.
You can keep any corals under that light and the fit and finish on the tank is very show quality.
 

stevej

New Member
after buying the tank what's a reasonable expectation of how much I'm looking at spending. I realize it's limitless, I'm just looking for a reasonable estimate.
 

rotarymagic

Active Member
Originally Posted by stevej
http:///forum/post/2876343
why would I have to modify the nano cube?
return pump, add powerheads inside the tank, carbon, skimmer, lights, chiller, refugium. The stock parts suck.
Look up chromiumlux's tank in the nano section... that's a great finnex 30g tank.
 

stevej

New Member
Hmm, I can't use the tank as is?? I have a good friend who has an absolutely gorgeous reef tank, and he just uses a nano cube, with all the original parts, and no protein skimmer.
 

meowzer

Moderator
Yes, just be patient, and listen to what the experienced people have to say. and you should have a protein skimmer...for a 29g they should not be too highly priced....
 

rotarymagic

Active Member
I'm personally not running a skimmer on my 15, but I have other means for aerating the water and exporting nutrients.
 

stevej

New Member
I think I'm going to do the 12 gallon nano tank. Based on that, suggestions much appreciated!!!
 

natclanwy

Active Member
1. I would go with the 24g, a larger tank is much easier to maintain. Especially for your first tank I would avoid a 12g.
2. Here is a list of essential equipment:
You should get a good test kit for Nitrate, nitrite, ammonia, Calcium, Alkalinity and PH. The last three tests you won't need until after your tank is cycled and you start adding corals.
You also should get a refractometer for testing your SG hydrometers and swing arm hydrometers are notoriously inaccurate.
A good Thermometer not just the stick on strips.
A couple small Powerheads one for mixing saltwater and one for the tank a koralias nano would be a good choice.
Can't remember if the Nano cubes have an integrated heater or not but if not you will need a good reliable heater, the Ehiem Jager and the Visitherm stealth heaters have good track records.
I'm sure I missed a couple of things but that should get you started.
3. Besides this site, The Conscientious Marine Aquarist is a good book to read.
4. Live rock is up to you, but I wouldn't buy much branch rock as it is very dense and isn't as efficient for filtration. I would say 10lbs or so kind of depends on the rock you want some pieces that are very porous but you don't want to fill the tank from wall to wall or you will have issues getting good circulation around the rock.
Optional would be a skimmer they are very beneficial but not necessary.
The lights that come with the deluxe version should be fine for soft corals and many LPS corals.
If it were me and since this is your first aquarium I would not spend alot on a bunch of extras get the essentials and start there. That way you can be sure this is something you are going to enjoy, it takes alot of patience and work to have a successful tank and almost certainly will make you want to pull your hair out at times, but once you achieve a successful tank and everything start to grow the satisfaction is almost indescribable, so congrats and good luck on your first tank.
 

pete159

Member
a 12 g tank is a bad joke when it comes to saltwater.
Don't do it.
All in one tanks stink.
Take peoples advice here and start bigger.
if you want a 12g tank make it freshwater and get some nice dwarf puffers, they are a cool fish. if you really want to do saltwater at least get a 40g take with live rock, and a good protein skimmer. if you start so small you will soon wish you started bigger.
 

stevej

New Member
A 12 gallon is about all I have room for, my friend has a 12 gallon nano salt water and loves it.
 

rotarymagic

Active Member
Originally Posted by pete159
http:///forum/post/2876534
a 12 g tank is a bad joke when it comes to saltwater.
Don't do it.
All in one tanks stink.
Take peoples advice here and start bigger.
if you want a 12g tank make it freshwater and get some nice dwarf puffers, they are a cool fish. if you really want to do saltwater at least get a 40g take with live rock, and a good protein skimmer. if you start so small you will soon wish you started bigger.
well it all depends... there are things you can do with a small thank that you can't with a big tank..
you think you'd ever get to see a goby/shrimp pair or any nano fish in a 75G or bigger? LOL...
definitely can't stick any tangs or angels in a small tank so there's the flipside.
 
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