North Korea DID IT

[wattsupdoc]

I thought the U.N sanctions imposed on N.K. date back to the cease fire of our combat in Korea... Which means that we have every right to decide what they can and cant do, militarily. The U.N is the weakest most pathetic organization on the planet. Just like our president. He'll do nothing about it but talk...North Korea knows this, this is why they waited. It wont be long now before they are armed and posed to strike...

 

[renogaw]

Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3009914
The country that started one of the biggest World Wars in the history of mankind, possibly being allowed to protect themselves with any type of missile. Is Japan even allowed to have missile weaponry? Wasn't that part of the terms of their surrender to the US?

japan did not start any world war... they basically just jumped in while germany had all eyes on it. personally, i don't even nkow why japan even started crap with us since there's NO way they could even have remotely won...all they did was tick us off enough to help win vs germany and turn our eyes vs them.
but since they are now an ally of course they can have missiles!! we don't want them to stop sending us goods

 

[skinsfan]

Originally Posted by wattsupdoc
http:///forum/post/3010253
I thought the U.N sanctions imposed on N.K. date back to the cease fire of our combat in Korea... Which means that we have every right to decide what they can and cant do, militarily. The U.N is the weakest most pathetic organization on the planet. Just like our president. He'll do nothing about it but talk...North Korea knows this, this is why they waited. It wont be long now before they are armed and posed to strike...

Negative. you might want to google The Korean Amistice. Boy, there sure are alot of arm chair tough guys in here. I suppose alot of you fought in Iraq or afghanistan. Or maybe you think we can just bomb everybody?

 

[bionicarm]

Originally Posted by renogaw
http:///forum/post/3010285
japan did not start any world war... they basically just jumped in while germany had all eyes on it. personally, i don't even nkow why japan even started crap with us since there's NO way they could even have remotely won...all they did was tick us off enough to help win vs germany and turn our eyes vs them.
but since they are now an ally of course they can have missiles!! we don't want them to stop sending us goods
You like to split hairs don't you? Yes, Germany started it all, but we didn't get involved militarily until after Pearl Harbor. While Germany was invading Poland and Russia, Japan was invading China and building up their defenses in the Middle East. During the war, Japan's Naval Fleet rivaled ours, and in some ways was better. I'll agree that it was very unlikely the Japanese could've overthrown the US and fully invade US soil in the Continental 48. However, if they were the pushover you're depicting, why did it take so long to defeat them, especially with us having to use a nuclear device to finally finish them off?

 

[theclemsonkid]

Man, some of you folks are really dilusional.
For one, in this day and age, you can't just bomb your way to controlling the world. Even though a lot of people in this country seem to think so, that's just not the case.
Secondly, I think it's pretty obvious (like a previous poster mentioned) that if North Korea did in fact lauch a missle with a nuke on board, it wouldn't make it out of it's own airspace before it was shot down by Japan/China/Russia/USA/ etc.
Just like NORAD, Japan/China/Russia and the like all have advanced radar systems too, and you can rest assured they are all keeping an eye out.
I think the big misconception these days is that the world in 2009 isn't much like it was in 1943. If one country actually decided to drop a nuke, that would more or less be the end of life as we know it. Once one drops, then another drops, and another... and before you know it, nuclear winter is here.
The reason that "big sissy" Obama and the U.N. for that matter are taking a diplomatic approach, is because we don't WANT to have to fire that first missle to start the domino effect that could very well be the end of the world. Plus, if we ABSOLUTELY had to, North Korea could be wiped off the map in a matter of hours...
To me, North Korea reminds me of that kid in high school, who was never very popular, but always acted like the tough guy. At first he seemed a little scary, until you realized that God forbid he actually went after some kid someday, the rest of the high school tough guys would put him in his place quicker than he could throw a punch...
So Kim Jong-Il is a dilusional tough guy. Does it really matter? Let's be honest, North Korea has zero political or financial gain to the United States, so let's just leave him alone until he actually tries something.
Which in my opinion, he never will...
Which reminds me of another thing that drove me nuts about the Bush Backers... One of the paramount arguments about the war in Iraq is that "He went in there and toppled a murderous dictator and freed the people".
Uhh yeah. Money had nothing to do with it...
So why then, did Cowboy George not go into North Korea, or Darfur, or a number of other places where things are much, much, MUCH worse than Iraq?
Look, if you supported him and freely admitted that Iraq was about money and oil, then I have NO PROBLEM at all with you. In fact, I applaud you for your honesty. However, it's the people who use the "we went to Iraq to free the people" that make me wanna puke up my cinnamon toast crunch...

 

[bionicarm]

Originally Posted by TheClemsonKid
http:///forum/post/3010343
Man, some of you folks are really dilusional.
For one, in this day and age, you can't just bomb your way to controlling the world. Even though a lot of people in this country seem to think so, that's just not the case.
Secondly, I think it's pretty obvious (like a previous poster mentioned) that if North Korea did in fact lauch a missle with a nuke on board, it wouldn't make it out of it's own airspace before it was shot down by Japan/China/Russia/USA/ etc.
Just like NORAD, Japan/China/Russia and the like all have advanced radar systems too, and you can rest assured they are all keeping an eye out.
I think the big misconception these days is that the world in 2009 isn't much like it was in 1943. If one country actually decided to drop a nuke, that would more or less be the end of life as we know it. Once one drops, then another drops, and another... and before you know it, nuclear winter is here.
The reason that "big sissy" Obama and the U.N. for that matter are taking a diplomatic approach, is because we don't WANT to have to fire that first missle to start the domino effect that could very well be the end of the world. Plus, if we ABSOLUTELY had to, North Korea could be wiped off the map in a matter of hours...
To me, North Korea reminds me of that kid in high school, who was never very popular, but always acted like the tough guy. At first he seemed a little scary, until you realized that God forbid he actually went after some kid someday, the rest of the high school tough guys would put him in his place quicker than he could throw a punch...
So Kim Jong-Il is a dilusional tough guy. Does it really matter? Let's be honest, North Korea has zero political or financial gain to the United States, so let's just leave him alone until he actually tries something.
Which in my opinion, he never will...
Which reminds me of another thing that drove me nuts about the Bush Backers... One of the paramount arguments about the war in Iraq is that "He went in there and toppled a murderous dictator and freed the people".
Uhh yeah. Money had nothing to do with it...
So why then, did Cowboy George not go into North Korea, or Darfur, or a number of other places where things are much, much, MUCH worse than Iraq?
Look, if you supported him and freely admitted that Iraq was about money and oil, then I have NO PROBLEM at all with you. In fact, I applaud you for your honesty. However, it's the people who use the "we went to Iraq to free the people" that make me wanna puke up my cinnamon toast crunch...
You have now brought on the wrath of journey. Heaven help your unfortuante soul...

 

[spanko]

Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3010389
You have now brought on the wrath of journey. Heaven help your unfortuante soul...

Quick, everyone.....

 

[deejeff442]

wow ,if we went into iraq for money and oil i want my share.
dont seem to find free money or oil anywhere around here.
seems to me if a person dont have a weapon they can never use one.
so it dont bother you that everyone has a nuke?
seems to me the only reason we arent done in iraq or afganistan is because everyone else(except japan)has always cared about thier own life.
since the enemy could care less and have some delusional dream of some weird afterlife and actually looks foward to being a marter .
its almost immposible to win a war against brainwashed suicidal nutjobs.

 

[darthtang aw]

Originally Posted by TheClemsonKid
http:///forum/post/3010343
Man, some of you folks are really dilusional.
For one, in this day and age, you can't just bomb your way to controlling the world. Even though a lot of people in this country seem to think so, that's just not the case.
Secondly, I think it's pretty obvious (like a previous poster mentioned) that if North Korea did in fact lauch a missle with a nuke on board, it wouldn't make it out of it's own airspace before it was shot down by Japan/China/Russia/USA/ etc.
Just like NORAD, Japan/China/Russia and the like all have advanced radar systems too, and you can rest assured they are all keeping an eye out.
I think the big misconception these days is that the world in 2009 isn't much like it was in 1943. If one country actually decided to drop a nuke, that would more or less be the end of life as we know it. Once one drops, then another drops, and another... and before you know it, nuclear winter is here.
The reason that "big sissy" Obama and the U.N. for that matter are taking a diplomatic approach, is because we don't WANT to have to fire that first missle to start the domino effect that could very well be the end of the world. Plus, if we ABSOLUTELY had to, North Korea could be wiped off the map in a matter of hours...
To me, North Korea reminds me of that kid in high school, who was never very popular, but always acted like the tough guy. At first he seemed a little scary, until you realized that God forbid he actually went after some kid someday, the rest of the high school tough guys would put him in his place quicker than he could throw a punch...
So Kim Jong-Il is a dilusional tough guy. Does it really matter? Let's be honest, North Korea has zero political or financial gain to the United States, so let's just leave him alone until he actually tries something.
Which in my opinion, he never will...
Which reminds me of another thing that drove me nuts about the Bush Backers... One of the paramount arguments about the war in Iraq is that "He went in there and toppled a murderous dictator and freed the people".
Uhh yeah. Money had nothing to do with it...
So why then, did Cowboy George not go into North Korea, or Darfur, or a number of other places where things are much, much, MUCH worse than Iraq?
Look, if you supported him and freely admitted that Iraq was about money and oil, then I have NO PROBLEM at all with you. In fact, I applaud you for your honesty. However, it's the people who use the "we went to Iraq to free the people" that make me wanna puke up my cinnamon toast crunch...
2 things.
1. The analogy about the bullies is fine, unless you are the original person the bully attacked...........
2. Darfur and N. Korea did not pay individuals (terrorists) large sums of money to blow themselves up in the middle of civilian districts.
Darth (never one to ignore the rest of the story) Tang
P.S. still waiting for all this oil you keep saying we got.

 

[darthtang aw]

Originally Posted by deejeff442
http:///forum/post/3010407
wow ,if we went into iraq for money and oil i want my share.
dont seem to find free money or oil anywhere around here.
seems to me if a person dont have a weapon they can never use one.
so it dont bother you that everyone has a nuke?
seems to me the only reason we arent done in iraq or afganistan is because everyone else(except japan)has always cared about thier own life.
since the enemy could care less and have some delusional dream of some weird afterlife and actually looks foward to being a marter .
its almost immposible to win a war against brainwashed suicidal nutjobs.

Iraq is all but won.
Afghanistan will take another five years because the rest of the E.U./NATO is to busy trying to remove their tail from their rear. But we are expected to help them out with money for their financial crisis.

 

[deejeff442]

i saw that 3 billion to help them build thier army.
while we lose jobs and homes.
just awesome.
i was listing to the radio earlier and the guy was calling obamas visit to europe
the obama appology tour.
cause the u.s. people are just so bad to the world.
my friend has had 4 tours in iraq and afganistan and they are talking about sending him back there again.
he is going for gunny now so probably wont be in the line of fire anymore.
he said that we are definitlyt needed over there for world peace and the iraq people love when the soilders show up.
nothing looks more bad ass than a marine with his blues on.

 

[theclemsonkid]

Clearly when I say "we" went for the oil, I was referring to Bush, his close friends, (the company formerly known as) Blackwater, etc.
You and I will never see a dime of the billions and billions of dollars paid out by the government to private contractors.
However, a lot of his friends HAVE gotten that money, which ironically enough comes from your tax money. Yet, you still happily support the decision...
Hmmm

 

[darthtang aw]

Bush, Cheney, those guys you mean?
The same guys who made less than the Clinton's last year?
Billions of billions of dollars paid out to companies that are actually performing work.....yet you have no problem paying out some 3 trillion dollars in 3 months 90% of that not even going into the economy.
I notice you left the Darfur argument alone............
Darth (kids say the darndest things) Tang
P.S. Do you carry a picture of yourself in your wallet also?

 

[bionicarm]

Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/3010488
Bush, Cheney, those guys you mean?
The same guys who made less than the Clinton's last year?
Billions of billions of dollars paid out to companies that are actually performing work.....yet you have no problem paying out some 3 trillion dollars in 3 months 90% of that not even going into the economy.
I notice you left the Darfur argument alone............
Darth (kids say the darndest things) Tang
P.S. Do you carry a picture of yourself in your wallet also?
Of course Bush and Cheney made less than the Clinton's last year. Those two haven't had the oppotunity to crank up their book tours and speaking engagements yet. Once they get going, all you right-wing Republicans will go out in droves to listen to their eloquent speeches. They'll earn three times what the Clinton's have made, plus they'll provide great skits and fodder for future SNL shows.

 

[darthtang aw]

Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3010509
Of course Bush and Cheney made less than the Clinton's last year. Those two haven't had the oppotunity to crank up their book tours and speaking engagements yet. Once they get going, all you right-wing Republicans will go out in droves to listen to their eloquent speeches. They'll earn three times what the Clinton's have made, plus they'll provide great skits and fodder for future SNL shows.

But, But, But, Iraq was about oil and money for them and their friends......the money should have been coming in already.
Darth (thanks for proving my point) Tang

 

[bionicarm]

Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/3010518
But, But, But, Iraq was about oil and money for them and their friends......the money should have been coming in already.
Darth (thanks for proving my point) Tang
Daddy Bush collected all that money during the first Gulf War. 'W' just continued the legacy...

 

[darthtang aw]

Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3010580
Daddy Bush collected all that money during the first Gulf War. 'W' just continued the legacy...

Seriously, quit before people on here start thinking you suffer from a severe stroke.
Darth (looking out for your reputation) Tang