nothing but aggrivation.

salt life

salt life

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Ok I have another problem ofcourse.
my skimmer/RP section loses water very quickly and my older 75g fills up. I made an overflow out of a rio 1400 and some PVC, but the rio 1400 pulls to much water out of the tank and fills the sump up too much even with a ball valve on it.Im guessing the problem is I need just a tad bit more water flowing through my sump to keep up with the RP but not as much as the rio puts out. I don't know what to do and I am just pissed off about it now.
Anyone have any suggestions on what to do? or how to make the rio 1400 overflow rig work?
TIA
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Maybe you need a rio 1200

I honestly don't know..just wanted to cheer you up and say hi.
BUT it seems that the rio 1400 and the rp are not the same gph
 
salt life

salt life

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Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/2994837
Maybe you need a rio 1200

I honestly don't know..just wanted to cheer you up and say hi.
BUT it seems that the rio 1400 and the rp are not the same gph

thanks meowzer
the RP is a mag 18 but it powers both of the tanks, idk if it is too much but I think I just need a little bit more water going through the sump but im just taking a guess at that.

if anyone has any ideas please throw them out there, and if you need more info on something just ask and i'll do my best to answer.
 
posiden

posiden

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Okay, I am little confused. Are you using a pump to pump water down to the sump/fug? If so why? Or is this a brand of OF.
 
salt life

salt life

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Originally Posted by Posiden
http:///forum/post/2994973
Okay, I am little confused. Are you using a pump to pump water down to the sump/fug? If so why? Or is this a brand of OF.
yeah I was using the pump as an overflow to get more water in my sump. On the newer 75g it is pre drilled and I have an overflow box on it because I didnt have enough drainage. On the older tank it is pre drilled and I just have one pipe. but when I top off my sump because it loses water so quickly it fills up the older tank.
 
posiden

posiden

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The evening has been good to me so bear with me on the questions.
You have one fug and it is being feed by two display tanks? You have a MAG18 RP supplying both tanks?
 
salt life

salt life

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Originally Posted by Posiden
http:///forum/post/2994995
The evening has been good to me so bear with me on the questions.
You have one fug and it is being feed by two display tanks? You have a MAG18 RP supplying both tanks?
fug as in fuge?yes, 1 sump/fuge with 2 tanks connected to it. return pump is a mag 18
 
posiden

posiden

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OK, how many 90's 45's and such on the drains and the returns. Pleas keep the numbers separate to the drains and returns.
Also do you have ball valves and unions?
 
salt life

salt life

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Originally Posted by Posiden
http:///forum/post/2995019
OK, how many 90's 45's and such on the drains and the returns. Pleas keep the numbers separate to the drains and returns.
Also do you have ball valves and unions?
drain: one 90 and a T because the drains are connected, which I think im getting some back flow because the newer 75g drains straigh down to the T, and the older 75g drains down then to the right then it hits the T. But on the newer 75g I also have a over flow box on it with the pre drilled too. and for the return I have 4 90 and no ball valves and couldnt fit a union but it is connected by an adaptor so i can still pop it off
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Originally Posted by Posiden
http:///forum/post/2994995
The evening has been good to me so bear with me on the questions.
You have one fug and it is being feed by two display tanks? You have a MAG18 RP supplying both tanks?
Don't tell me you were out with JOE
 
salt life

salt life

Active Member
Originally Posted by Posiden
http:///forum/post/2995036
How many feet of vertical and horizontal pipe on the return?
vertical maybe about 4 feet in all
horizontal probably 4 feet too
if i make the drain pipe in the older 75g shorter will that help? I feel like i just need to drain a little bit more out of that tank and i will be ok...
 
posiden

posiden

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OK, your MAG18 is putting out 763 GPH. That is with 3/4" return with two outputs and 4 90's and 4 feet of H and V pipe run.
I think you are putting more resistance on the older 75 where it comes into the newer 75. If you put a sanitary T in place of the standard T you will reduce the resistance. Also I would increase the pipe diameter after that. You are adding resistance at the T fitting cause you are trying to flow two drains through the diameter of one. I hope that makes sense. I would increase the drain after the sanitary T to at least 2". bigger would be better but, it is not always feasible.
 
salt life

salt life

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Originally Posted by Posiden
http:///forum/post/2995064
OK, your MAG18 is putting out 763 GPH. That is with 3/4" return with two outputs and 4 90's and 4 feet of H and V pipe run.
I think you are putting more resistance on the older 75 where it comes into the newer 75. If you put a sanitary T in place of the standard T you will reduce the resistance. Also I would increase the pipe diameter after that. You are adding resistance at the T fitting cause you are trying to flow two drains through the diameter of one. I hope that makes sense. I would increase the drain after the sanitary T to at least 2". bigger would be better but, it is not always feasible.
I understand what your saying, should I make the drain pipe lower in the tank too? its probably like an inch from the top of the black box... If i make it shorter will it drain more?
 
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