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rylan1

rylan1

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Originally Posted by stdreb27
That is the biggest problem with liberalism today, they don't believe in America, This questions says we are just as "evil" as communism. And we simply need people in office who believe in The American Ideology. How can you lead a country if you don't believe in it.
No its not saying that... its asking the question "Why do we think we are better or above anyone?" Is Marxism evil? I don't know? Can capitalism be evil?
I was watching this show on history channel last night about the dollar bill and the symbols and hidden meanings of them. Very interesting.. it makes you question some things about the creators of it and the faternity of founding fathers.
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
"Why do we think we are better or above anyone?"
If you have to ask yourself that, then you have made my point.
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Let me give you a little backround about myself, I'm a second generation american. My family were refugies from a war, they lost everything, because dirt poor. They came to america, did you ever watch fievel goes west, that isn't a bad representation of what they believed in. They believed that this was the land of opportunity, they could do anything they set their mind to do. And they did. All their kids have degrees, and master degrees. All their kids make 6 or 7 digit incomes. Their grandkids, are cops, marines, army pilots, nurses (soon to be doctors), or other high earning jobs. This is something they could not do in their old country.
You see our United States, holds this idea that we are endowed by our created with unalienable rights, life, liberty, pursuit of happiness. Our philosophy of work hard for yourself, actually works. You ask what is different? EVERYTHING. Did the iraqis have this opportunity with saddam? Do the cubans with fidel? Do the venezuelans have this opportunity with Chavez? What about the Russians with Stalin? What about the Chinese with Mao? What about the North Koreans? What about the Vietnamese? They don't, they can only be what the state lets them be. In 200 years, we have become the most wealthy, the most free, of any one country in history. And you still have to ask why are we not better?
I do have to say this doesn't make us a better person, or make non-americans infedels. But we simply have a system that works and works better than any other system in the world. And you can't be a leader in this country if you do not truely believe it is the best way to go.
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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If we are nothing special, why do you think millions pour into the country to live in the freedom and land of opportunity that we have taken for granted.
 
triga22

triga22

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Sorry If I got off on the wrong foot. I dont think that I will change in political ways but likley career paths, ext.. I like where I stand right now. And Im sorry for looking at it as that.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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The Obo fans better enjoy it while it lasts. The Clinton smear machine is going to be in high gear. If he has any skelatons in the closet they are about to start rattling, even the ones that were planted there
 
1journeyman

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
What's the difference from us spreading democracy and them spreading communism? In theory, isn't it the same thing?
No. Not at all.
You're kidding, right? Ryan, you challenged another poster for being young and "not having "insight"; yet you haven't studied the difference between what was going on under the communist regimes?
Anyone who studies history cannot possibly believe spreading communism and Democracy are the "same thing" that results in the same thing.
 
1journeyman

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
We've been getting hit in Iraq and Afganistan.. The worst human rights violations are taking place there... I just wish our gov't would step in.
So you would rather us leave Afghanistan and Iraq where we are fighting our national enemies to get involved in a continent full of civil wars?
 
darthtang aw

darthtang aw

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Did Rylan just change the subject and not rebuttal any of my points..........typical.
Make a blanket statement then when challenged by facts/information make a left turn.
And one wonders why nothing ever changes in this country.
 
dogstar

dogstar

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
And one wonders why nothing ever changes in this country.
or on this web site.
 
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