okay.... gotta new 56 gal. For Christmas....

spanko

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My thought would be if you are serious about keeping this magnificent coral you are going to have to make some concessions on what other coral you keep. With the things Mr. Fenner posted about this animal maybe you could look at keeping a NFS tank. (non photosynthetic). A lot of work but not a lot of expense in equipment. There are some real beauties out there. Here is some reading to start you off with.
Go to the first link here,
http://www.google.com/search?q=Uhuru%27s+NPS+Elos+Mini&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7ADBR_en
On another note with the Cataphyllia maybe stick to softies and LPS coral that will tolerate the "dirtier" water better that the SPS coral. Ricordea florida, Ricordea yuma, a nice Nemanzophyllia turbida, etc. Just going to need to really think about placement of corals in this type of tank to allow enough room around all of the stinging capabilities.
Or look again to Mr. Fenner and make it a species tank and try to emulate the biotope that these critters are found in.
 
gc1962

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All this sounds odd to me I have had a elegance coral for over 2-1/2 years now and I have sps lps and soft corals and everything seems to be thriving and growing well. I just dont believe my sps and lps corals would be doing so great if my water was in the condition that is posted above. I have never had any issues at all with the coral or with my others. I believe that they can be kept in clean water as long as you get a good specimen and provide low flow the right light and keep it on the sand.
 
btwk12

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all corals are different some might just adapt better, or your elegance could be tank raised and thats all it knows is good water quality
this is all new info to me as well i am 1 of those people who just heard an elegance is hard to keep and just stayed away from them. but i still see them on the net and im real close to ordering one, and stop myself!
 
kiefers

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I have done alot of reading on this coral. More than I would have if it were any other. I have read that the Australian elegance is hardier than the others, than I read that if tank raised is better however, the LFS may not know where the animal came from. i have to admit 2 things tho. 1) I am determined to keep him going and 2) just pray.
I hear what Spanko is saying and yet I find that to be alot of work and it may take alot more room than what we actually have. My wife is more than happy to make room in her tank for it. (Thanks baby,... your the best!!) But NO. Not yet anyways. I am a firm believer tho that one has to reseach what they want before they buy it. However, the impulse of seeing the most awesome coral and holding back the urge to get it is to strong. I'm weak. Maybe I'll keep the bio cube up and save it for the elegance and others of the same type. Any suggestions?
But as far as the new tank, I did order the stand for it yesterday and I have to do something with the back. Paint, color, kind of paint?????? Any ideas? (Oh.. and happy new years to you all.)
 
kiefers

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Originally Posted by gc1962 http:///forum/thread/382788/okay-gotta-new-56-gal-for-christmas/20#post_3343753
All this sounds odd to me I have had a elegance coral for over 2-1/2 years now and I have sps lps and soft corals and everything seems to be thriving and growing well. I just dont believe my sps and lps corals would be doing so great if my water was in the condition that is posted above. I have never had any issues at all with the coral or with my others. I believe that they can be kept in clean water as long as you get a good specimen and provide low flow the right light and keep it on the sand.
do you have any pics of your set up gc?
 
spanko

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gc1962 and btwk12 I am glad you are both having some success with this coral, but be aware most don't. My goal here was to give some information from a respected expert on the care and environment in which these critters live in the wild. There is much information out there on the demise of them in captive care as well as the disease that is common for them to get. There is also information on the differences in specimens that are collected from different areas around the world as Kiefers has pointed out.
Here is some more information from Eric Borneman.
Go to the first post here then go to the beginning of the thread.
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=EricHugo+the+elegance+coral+project
Again glad that some are having success just wish to give out more information on the subject.
 
btwk12

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i my self don't have one. i run a turf scrubber and all my levels are at 0, so that would prob not be good for the elegance if they need high nutrients. luckily i have never seen one in person (at my lfs) because i might have been temted to buy it. about 4 months ago i recieved an email from my lfs to tell me they had an elegance in. but i didnt get the email in time, so i prob got lucky i didnt spend the money on it! i have only lost 2 corals in my short time in the hobby(3 years) they were a pulsing xenia frag and a green slimer frag, and i dont plan on losing anymore
 
kiefers

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I really don't think anyone "plans" on loosing any. Lol. My only question here is other than making a buck, why order something to sell if it's not going to survive. I know that we as humans like to stake claim on things that we shouldn't but it sure makes it hard when we spend alot of money on something wether coral fish or any other animal and it dies, or we kill the poor thing.
 
mproctor4

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I really like that background! I have so much coraline/algea on the back of my tank right now you would probably never see it.
 
spanko

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Originally Posted by Kiefers http:///forum/thread/382788/okay-gotta-new-56-gal-for-christmas/20#post_3343973
I really don't think anyone "plans" on loosing any. Lol. My only question here is other than making a buck, why order something to sell if it's not going to survive. I know that we as humans like to stake claim on things that we shouldn't but it sure makes it hard when we spend alot of money on something wether coral fish or any other animal and it dies, or we kill the poor thing.
First off the only reason a fish store will sell something is if someone keeps buying them. A business is not going to stock items they cannot move.
On the last part, tis why upfront knowledge gathering prior to a purchase is so important.
 
kiefers

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Once again I find myself agreeing with you. I did soemthing real good tho.... I saw a black sun coral and loved it. I then came home and started reading on it and they seemed to not require to much work until.... I went back some time later and my wife pointed out it had skeleton showing. I don't believe the store is feeding it. I knda feel for the critter.
I'm ganna buy those books and just leave them in my truck so when I do venture out I can have some info with me.
 
spanko

spanko

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Yup the ones I pm'd you are good to have. But for the road you may like these;

A PocketExpert Guide to Marine Fishes: 500+ Essential-To-Know Aquarium Species by Ronald L. Shimek
A PocketExpert Guide to Marine Invertebrates: 500+ Essential-to-Know Aquarium Species by Ronald L. Shimek
 
kiefers

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Originally Posted by spanko http:///forum/thread/382788/okay-gotta-new-56-gal-for-christmas/20#post_3344661
Yup the ones I pm'd you are good to have. But for the road you may like these;

A PocketExpert Guide to Marine Fishes: 500+ Essential-To-Know Aquarium Species by Ronald L. Shimek
A PocketExpert Guide to Marine Invertebrates: 500+ Essential-to-Know Aquarium Species by Ronald L. Shimek
okay do you have ANY idea what these lil beauty's cost!!! WOW.... will have to wait until pay day Lol.......45.00 a piece? hahahahaha I have a tank to get up. I need lights, wet/dry, pumps, and I'm still shakey on the light issue, ie... LED, 10,000K, 20,000K or whatever. I will stick with archives and just keep askin around. But I will get the books soon, promise. :)
I wish they had a measuring calculator for lights as they do the sand. (30" W x 18" W x 25" H) and boom... you have your answer. Lol. Going to work, have a great day.
 
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