aaron childs
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Are the perc clowns hardy fish? My cycle is done and everything is well, but i was just wondering. And also, if I go and get them, should I get a pair?
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Perc Clowns
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donmgicwon
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Everyone I know that gets the tank bred ones sees it die in a matter of a couple weeks (me included). I talked to a real pro at a different LFS and he says they get a disease called clownfish disease when they are introduced into the tanks at the store that share water with wild caught fish. These TB clowns do not have the naturall resistance built up and they soon die. I guess what I'm saying is if you buy from an lfs get wild caught. Taht is all this guy will sell because he is small and doesn't want to have a totally isolated tank for a few TB clowns (not that any of the bigger stores around have one either).
debbie
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Are you just talking about the Perc clowns (nemo)?
I have a tomato clown and it has been through alot since i bought it. It was so full of ich the next day and the LFS would not take it back nor replace it. So I treated it and what a tough little guy.
But the Nemo ones they are having huge problems with them dying like crazy. Just wanting to know if the weakness is just in those type?
Good Luck they are great to watch :yes:
I have a tomato clown and it has been through alot since i bought it. It was so full of ich the next day and the LFS would not take it back nor replace it. So I treated it and what a tough little guy.
But the Nemo ones they are having huge problems with them dying like crazy. Just wanting to know if the weakness is just in those type?
Good Luck they are great to watch :yes:
donmgicwon
Member
Originally posted by Debbie
Are you just talking about the Perc clowns (nemo)?
I have a tomato clown and it has been through alot since i bought it. It was so full of ich the next day and the LFS would not take it back nor replace it. So I treated it and what a tough little guy.
But the Nemo ones they are having huge problems with them dying like crazy. Just wanting to know if the weakness is just in those type?
Good Luck they are great to watch :yes:
I'm thinking its mainly the percs because they are so common. I would think the problem (based on how it was explained to me by the LFS guy) would be with all tank bred clowns though.
I know that when the big LFS here (they have 3 locations) get false percs every week they get ALOT, which to me must mean they get alot of "repeat customers" (mommy mommy Nemo died. Thats alright dear we'll just go get another little Nemo) or there are alot more people out there with SW tanks then I ever imagined (which I doubt). Most people I see come into this store are just inquiring on setting up a SW tank and not really there to buy antything.
aiber
Member
I hate to write this but...This thread has made feel good....I have purchased 4 percs in the last week and a half and two have died and the others are hurting...One is breathing heavy and stays behind the rocks and the other is pale color....These percs suck...I going to my LFS and I am going to demand a refund. If not, I will not return...
aaron childs
Member
I have been watching the ones that I just bout, for a couple weeks. They look very healthy and are not having any problems in their first day in the tank ..
aaron childs
Member
I dont know if they were wild or tank grown ... But they seem great ... Ill watch for any bad things in the next couple of weeks ... Hopefully everything is alright.
donmgicwon
Member
This is a buyer beware hobby but I will not buy the TB clowns from ANY LFS again. I will buy my next one wild caught and from a better LFS. As far as holding an LFS responsible, that is up to the customer to decide, if you feel they are no good don't go back. You kind of have to have some experiences with the store and the people who work there. Nobody knows everything about this hobby and sometimes things just have to go unexplained. The Clownfish Disease thing may not even exist, it could just be something someone told this guy and he passes it onto whomever. Whenever someone gives me info. I decide whether to use it or not but even when I do, I don't EXPECT it to be completely factual but a least I have some more knowledge about the subject and hopefully with many different ideas and personal experiences I will have some kind of success. So far I can't complain 1 perc. and a few snails that fell on their back (that I couldn't get at to flip) isn't too bad for a beginner.
debbie
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I know what you mean about LFS. I always say that I will never buy anything "live" from a certain store here in my home town. But that is where I got my tomato clown from. Full of ich etc. I am very happy to say that I saved this poor thing and it is doing just great, very healthy now.
But when they have their 2 for 1 it is hard to resist but I have to now as salt water costs just to much to take the risk of bringing anything into your aquarium. So no more fish from there for me. We have a great marine store here that has excellent fish, corals etc. That is where I buy from now.
A lesson learned from me the hard way when I stocked my freshwater tank from that LFS and had all but 3 die in a tank that has been up and running for the past 10 years.
Good luck to you and be really picky where you buy your fish from.
But when they have their 2 for 1 it is hard to resist but I have to now as salt water costs just to much to take the risk of bringing anything into your aquarium. So no more fish from there for me. We have a great marine store here that has excellent fish, corals etc. That is where I buy from now.
A lesson learned from me the hard way when I stocked my freshwater tank from that LFS and had all but 3 die in a tank that has been up and running for the past 10 years.
Good luck to you and be really picky where you buy your fish from.
ka0z4allu
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I have 2 tank raised percs that I have had for about 6 months that I got from SWF.com and they are doing great! I have bought all of my tank inhabitants from SWF.com and I have had no illnesses or deaths. I don't know if i got lucky or what but they seem to have very hearty animals IMO as I cycled my tank with them (didn't know better being a newb) but they seem very happy to me!:happyfish
aaron childs
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I was picky ... Tried a new place, and the corals this guy has are amazing! :yes: ... I didnt buy from the other LFS's because I can tell that they are not as "up to par" as this coral heaven place is ... The place is incredible and hopefully the fish are too ... Thanks for the information all, and hopefully my fish will be fine 
... Ill update in a couple days or so ...
Thanks as always.
... Ill update in a couple days or so ...Thanks as always.
aaron childs
Member
SWF.com does not cheat you like LFS ... SWF.com sells the best live stuff ... Well, as far as Im concerned. :happy:
SWF.com sells the best live stuff ... Well, as far as Im concerned. :happy:
aaron childs
Member
I also think, while the clownfish disease may be true ... That becuase these are such popular fish, many of them are bound not to make it ... They also do not ship very well, and if they are shipped to a LFS, whether its a good store or not ... I have heard and read that they should be kept there for AT LEAST two weeks, even longer. Guy that I bought them from had receipt papers from when they were brought in, and the ones I bought have been there for 3 weeks *Shrug*
We shall see, just wanted to add another .02 cents of mine ...
We shall see, just wanted to add another .02 cents of mine ...
donmgicwon
Member
Originally posted by Aaron Childs
I have heard and read that they should be kept there for AT LEAST two weeks, even longer. Guy that I bought them from had receipt papers from when they were brought in, and the ones I bought have been there for 3 weeks *Shrug*
They get a HUGE swarm (maybe 50) and they are gone in a week. I don't think they would bother holding one for mefor 2-3 weeks they want to move them and move them fast. If they die in their tank they lose, if they die in your tank they win.
aaron childs
Member
Yep...Exactly. Im just saying, their supposed to be there for 2 weeks...But they never are. Guess I got lucky, since the store I go to is very, very, very small.
Guess I got lucky, since the store I go to is very, very, very small.
bang guy
Moderator
Originally posted by j-key
i wonder whats the longest someone has had a aq. clown in their tank?
I've had my female Ocellaris since 09/2000 and my male since 03/2001.
Brooklynella is the disease commonly called Clownfish Disease. Many wild caught Clownfish carry this disease. Clownfish are extremely territorial so uprooting them from their territory is extremely stressful for them. This stress (opinion mode) supresses their immune system and the Brook takes advantage of a weakened host. This is a fast acting disease and usually fatal unless treated immediately.
The theory that this is killing Tank Bred Clowns is new to me. It's worthy of more research. One of the advantages of TB Clownfish is the absence of disease. If they are contracting Brook in dealers tanks then this is a bad turn for hobbiests.
Bang
donmgicwon
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That is the name the guy mentioned, I couldn't remember it. As I said it is just one person I have heard this from. He said they lack an immunity to it because they are tank bred. I don't know to believe it or not but why do they die so easy and all other fish live? There has to be something wrong, maybe they are too young when they are sold? Some of the fish are lucky and live while others are destined to die no matter whose tank they end up in?:notsure: