Originally Posted by
crimzy
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You're right, McCain will not leave this war. If we are to believe him, this war will continue for the next 100 years.
Wow journey, your staunch conservativism (or should I say blind conservativism) is pretty surprising. You demean any effort to end the war by concluding that it is "cut and running". You talk about appointing judges who will uphold the constitution when your hero, Bush, has made a concerted effort to appoint judge's who want to overturn Roe v. Wade. The reality is that, if you were having this conversation 50 years ago, you'd be discussing the need to overturn Brown v. Board of Education and upholding the fallacy of "separate but equal" philosophy.
Your argument is full of unsupported conclusions. (1) To my knowledge Obama has not raised any proposed extreme health care reform like Hillary, (2) SOCIAL PROGRAMS DO NOT EQUAL SOCIALISM. There is a big difference if you can see past your party line.
You now blame the war on Saddam (not terrorism as was your previous arguments). However, Saddam was captured in the first year of the war.
What is false about my concerns about the economy? Are you so biased that you don't see the conditions of employment, the US dollar and the $250 per month that every family is required to donate to the war effort?
As to your comment about my desire to have a republican or democrat president, you clearly have so much blind faith in Bush that anyone who challenges him must be a democrat, or a socialist. I'm telling you that you would have loved the 50's... you'd probably have a front row seat to the McCarthy hearings. Not that it matters, but just so you know, my opinions on various issues extends through the spectrum of conservative to liberal. I am smart enough that I don't need to label myself "democrat" or "republican" and support candidates accordingly. I have voted both ways. However I disagree vehemently with the mistakes of our current president and I also disagree with McCain's philosophies. So, if it is easier to call me a democrat or communist, than to open your mind to criticism of "your party leaders" then go ahead. That's ok with me.
The war against terrorism could conceivably last for 100 years.... unless we surrender. If you would rather remove women from schools and have them wear berkas, force folks to bow east every couple of hours, exocute violaters of sharia law, abolish any personal freedoms and then ya the war could end must faster. That's your two choices; Fight or surrender.
I am for ending the war in Iraq. The surge is doing that. I'm not for retreating.
Again, I'm for judges enforcing the Constitution. Roe vs. Wade is Unconstitutional. The Feds stepped in and took rights away from the States. Something the Constitution prohibits (See the 10th Amendment). Last time I check that was the President's postition as well. Abortion should be decided on the State level.
You are uninformed regarding Obama. See Obama's webpage (click "Issues") then we can have a more educated conversation regarding his plans to move us towards a socialist form of government.
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I never blamed the War in Iraq on terrorism. I've always known exactly why we went into Iraq. Saddam did support terrorists (Hamas, Hezbollah, etc.) and I've certainly justified our invasion on that. Go back as far as you'd like, however. I've always been quick to point out Saddam was directly responsible.
You've stated the "recession" that may be coming (although fiscal numbers do not currently show it) is not cyclical. There is absolutely no basis for that argument. Under the current President home ownership reached an all-time high, Unemployment is near record lows, and inflation and interest rates are low. And, of course, were paying lower taxes than we have in years... See Carter for a President whose policies caused a recession.
I'm certainly willing to donate $250 a month to the war effort. Of course that's a silly number and we both know it.
The falling dollar is an issue. Of course it's one that McCain has addressed more than either Obama or Hillary.
I certainly don't blindly follow the President. I was very vocal whenever I disagreed with him (spending, immigration, etc.)
The line has been drawn Crimzy. The two major parties we have become diametrically opposed. If you are for socialized programs, "cutting and running", higher taxes, activist judges and bowing to the alter of the UN you're a Democrat. I'm not name calling; just calling it like I see it.
