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sickboy

sickboy

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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/3065779
yeah, how is that 9.4% unemployment rate?

Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3065878
Stockmarket went up last couple months after going down the 3 months before that.
Iran is really happy with Obama to the point the fixed the election and are shooting at protestors
NK is about to test another ICBM and a second nuke ion less than a month
I'm failing to see how any of these examples is related to Obama....
The economy, not his fault. Just as Bush's first recession was due to Clinton's watch, this recession is on Bush's watch.
Iran fixed their election b/c of Obama?
Try Iran fixed it election b/c its Iran and they want to give off the impression of being a democracy even though they are a form of religious monarchy.
NK, how long has Kim Jong Il (or however you spell his name) been in power? When did they start testing nukes? They have been pushing and pushing for years...
 
superhero

superhero

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Originally Posted by sickboy
http:///forum/post/3065921
I'm failing to see how any of these examples is related to Obama....
The economy, not his fault. Just as Bush's first recession was due to Clinton's watch, this recession is on Bush's watch
Im sorry but that answer is not acceptable he has been in office long enough and taken enough drastic measures but recieved no reward... I dont know if you remember about a week into his term when he basically forced congress to pass the Economic Stimulus Package for 825 billion dollars by allowing them only 1 hour to read the finialized 647 page bill...(Might i add that while he was campaigning he preached that he would allow at least a week after a bill was introduced to congress before it would be put to a vote)....But they had 1 HOUR TO READ ALL 647 PAGES!!!
and since that bill has been intoduced the dow hit a low of 6547.57 points unemployment jumped from 7.2 to 9.6 and is actually higher if you count the U-6 Rate... WHich is currently at 16.4(The U-6 rate includes the amount of people who are out of work and are not looking for a job) and here is my evidence)... The man has done nothing but spend spend spend and if we learned anything from the terror George Bush was its that spending money you should not does not work.... SPEND SPEND SPEND is not the answer... so stop saying Obama has nothing to do with the terrible economic problem because if obama was as good as you think he is... His Stimulus bill would be STIMULATING THE ECONOMY!!! but sadly its not
(Little known info here too i was watching a program on wttw channel 11 about the federal bank bail-outs and just this week the government allowed the banks to pay them back beacuse the Gov't forced all of the banks even if they were doing well to take the money so average americans didnt become fearful they would loose their savings if their bank took money and another didnt... anyways they just allowed them to pay it back and instead of putting this money back into the economic stimulus package all of this money was put in a slush fund to be used by the big bad govt however they please... Now i dont know if you can put 2 and 2 together but this is basically money laundering... taking money cleaning it and moving it another usable account....

Originally Posted by sickboy
http:///forum/post/3065921
>Iran fixed their election b/c of Obama?
Try Iran fixed it election b/c its Iran and they want to give off the impression of being a democracy even though they are a form of religious monarchy.
No Iran did not fix their election because of Obama but if he had any sense at all he would send some highly trained black opps guys over there and have them pose as radical reform party terrorists and assinate akhmadinijad... as long as it doesnt end like the bay of pigs lol
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Originally Posted by sickboy
http:///forum/post/3065921
NK, how long has Kim Jong Il (or however you spell his name) been in power? When did they start testing nukes? They have been pushing and pushing for years...
And im sorry but you do not know the facts sir... They tested a nuclear bomb once during president Bush's 2 terms October 9th 2006... Now they dropped it and as soon as they did the UN and USA put heavy sanctions on them and 4 days later kim jon-il told the USA that he would be launching a nuke at us next if we did not sit down and talk with him and reduce our sanctions... here is the direct quote from the foreign minister "if the U.S. keeps pestering us and increases pressure, we will regard it as a declaration of war and will take a series of physical corresponding measures." Now we did not bend nor even blink and fast foward to october 20th and guess what the crazy Kim Jon-il apoligized and agreed to restart either 3 or 6 party talks about nuclear disarmament... here is the quote once again "If the U.S. makes a concession to some degree, we will also make a concession to some degree, whether it be bilateral talks or six-party talks" and finally on OCtober 30th only 3 weeks after the test talks were re-instated and Kim jon-il was slienced... Now jump ahead to present... Kim Jon-Il sees your messiah Barack go to the middle east to speak in Cairo and basically apologize for everything that the USA has done to them He calls American an Islamic Nation (WE HAVE 2 million Muslims THATS LESS THAN 1 %) and kisses the feet of the islamic world... now KIm Jon-Il sees this and says to himself hmmm lets test the new guy out because im a evil dictator and i have nothing better to do so he drops one nuke sees that really is Weak and plans to now drop another one so no They have not been "Pushing and Pushing for Years" They pushed 2.5 years ago for 3 weeks and then were put in their place by a real president with a backbone.... poor argument
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by sickboy
http:///forum/post/3065921
I'm failing to see how any of these examples is related to Obama....
The economy, not his fault. Just as Bush's first recession was due to Clinton's watch, this recession is on Bush's watch.
Iran fixed their election b/c of Obama?
Try Iran fixed it election b/c its Iran and they want to give off the impression of being a democracy even though they are a form of religious monarchy.
NK, how long has Kim Jong Il (or however you spell his name) been in power? When did they start testing nukes? They have been pushing and pushing for years...
So if your lord and savior Obama is having such a great first 6 months why is everything business as usual with NK and Iran?
If the stock market going up for two months Ossiah gets credit but the going down the previous 3 he is blameless

Obama is a coward. He doesn't have the guts to take on a Fox news commentator, do you really think the Koreans on Iranians fear him?
 
reefraff

reefraff

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By the way according to the administration the number 1 rated business show on cable TV isn't a business show

If the administration is at all confident in their policies why are they ducking the only network where they might get asked a tough question? You liberals should be concerned about this. The Ossiah is supposed to be so intellectually superior to Bush yet Bush never back away from interviews with hostile media outlets like the Times and NBC.
 
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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3066288
By the way according to the administration the number 1 rated business show on cable TV isn't a business show

If the administration is at all confident in their policies why are they ducking the only network where they might get asked a tough question? You liberals should be concerned about this. The Ossiah is supposed to be so intellectually superior to Bush yet Bush never back away from interviews with hostile media outlets like the Times and NBC.
FOX is not a legitamate news source! they show a partial clip of Barrack's speech in Cairo and say he's a 911 sympathiser! LMAO when the entire speech is played he clearly states the opposite. why would he go on there again? they are as reliable as the national inquirer running "bat boy" stories or the star claiming elvis was an alien. btw, he went on O'Rielly TWICE!.
the Times and NBC cant be "ducked" by any President because they are a LEGITIMATE world wide recognised news source. i dare you to find any msnbc interview of Bush while he was Pres. niether MSNBC or FOX tell the truth they both slant/twist it to there liking.
 
superhero

superhero

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Originally Posted by VinnyRaptor
http:///forum/post/3066403
FOX is not a legitamate news source! they show a partial clip of Barrack's speech in Cairo and say he's a 911 sympathiser! LMAO when the entire speech is played he clearly states the opposite. why would he go on there again? they are as reliable as the national inquirer running "bat boy" stories or the star claiming elvis was an alien. btw, he went on O'Rielly TWICE!.
the Times and NBC cant be "ducked" by any President because they are a LEGITIMATE world wide recognised news source. i dare you to find any msnbc interview of Bush while he was Pres. niether MSNBC or FOX tell the truth they both slant/twist it to there liking.
+1
fox and nbc and any news station in america for that matter is not bipartisan no matter what anyone says each station spins the stories or only reports what makes their party look good
 
sickboy

sickboy

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3066283
So if your lord and savior Obama is having such a great first 6 months why is everything business as usual with NK and Iran?
If the stock market going up for two months Ossiah gets credit but the going down the previous 3 he is blameless

Obama is a coward. He doesn't have the guts to take on a Fox news commentator, do you really think the Koreans on Iranians fear him?
Did I state that he has had a good start? Nope, I wouldn't say that b/c it simply isn't true. His policies may not be helping the economy, but it was already trashed when he took office. You can't expect a devastated economy to bounce back in a couple months....
 
stdreb27

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Originally Posted by VinnyRaptor
http:///forum/post/3066403
FOX is not a legitamate news source! they show a partial clip of Barrack's speech in Cairo and say he's a 911 sympathiser! LMAO when the entire speech is played he clearly states the opposite. why would he go on there again? they are as reliable as the national inquirer running "bat boy" stories or the star claiming elvis was an alien. btw, he went on O'Rielly TWICE!.
the Times and NBC cant be "ducked" by any President because they are a LEGITIMATE world wide recognised news source. i dare you to find any msnbc interview of Bush while he was Pres. niether MSNBC or FOX tell the truth they both slant/twist it to there liking.
wow, do you actually read what you type?
 
superhero

superhero

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Originally Posted by sickboy
http:///forum/post/3066528
Did I state that he has had a good start? Nope, I wouldn't say that b/c it simply isn't true. His policies may not be helping the economy, but it was already trashed when he took office. You can't expect a devastated economy to bounce back in a couple months....
Ok fine you can argue that all day long, but when you are the first president in history to spend almost 800 billion in a "stimulus" package aimed to "stimulate" the economy you would think this might help it a little but nope not at all the unemployment rate keeps dropping and the markets have not been doing to hot either so stop the "He was thrown into this situation" argument its false... after you spend that much money to try and stimulate the economy something should good should happen.... What it comes down to is the man is a fool.... He is Doing the same thing that bush did that got us in this mess... SPEND SPEND SPEND!!! Bush spent the most money of any president in this nations history and already not even 6 months into your GOD's presidency he has spent more than President Bush... lese fair people thats what capitolism is you let companys die and then bigger and better companys come in and replace them it has happend for 225 years with no hitch but now because Obama wants to go on a sick and twisted power trip he decides to buy up everything thats failing and "attempt" to stimulate the economy with no avail... crime is on the rise, people are losing faith, North Korea realizes that Barack is weak, He is closing Gtmo bay... crap is hitting the fan and doing it hard... I just hope he does not destroy our central core values as a country before his time is up
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by VinnyRaptor
http:///forum/post/3066403
FOX is not a legitamate news source! they show a partial clip of Barrack's speech in Cairo and say he's a 911 sympathiser! LMAO when the entire speech is played he clearly states the opposite. why would he go on there again? they are as reliable as the national inquirer running "bat boy" stories or the star claiming elvis was an alien. btw, he went on O'Rielly TWICE!.
the Times and NBC cant be "ducked" by any President because they are a LEGITIMATE world wide recognised news source. i dare you to find any msnbc interview of Bush while he was Pres. niether MSNBC or FOX tell the truth they both slant/twist it to there liking.
Who said that on Fox? One of the guys on red eye?

So the largest cable news network isn't legitimate but one like BSNBC which is the smallest is?
Kinda hard for Fox to twist the truth when they generally have guests on from both sides of the issues to debate. You should try watching it sometime. It's pretty cool to see each side try to get in their talking points.
 
rslinger

rslinger

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wow its been a while.... but i got to jump in on fixed news. come on i am not going to say that msnbc doesn't tilt things to because they do.. but fox come on have they ever said a good word about our president? i do watch msnbc regular and keith olbermann takes shots at the president with the things he doesn't like. chris matthew does they all do. they don't always just talk great about him, they get on his case too, but atleast there views aren't so far off that they can still see the good and the bad. when are the 26% of the american public going to get you are the minority. do i agree with everything that has happend NO. do i have to, NO. Can i still believe we have the right man for the job,YES.
 
darthtang aw

darthtang aw

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Originally Posted by VinnyRaptor
http:///forum/post/3065661
in 6 short months he has begun to restore our good name in the world especially in the middle east. the stock market has seen a steady rise ( dipped a bit in the last 2 days) since his inauguration. his approval rating is record setting, he's saying all the right things and implementing the plans and idea's he promised.
this is AWESOME! a president who can actually do what he said he was gonna do and do it with intelligence, dignity, and respect. his plate is filled with problems both foreign and domestic and yet he glides through all of the issues and offer's REAL solutions. when speaking of the Palestine/Israel conflict he said the only solution is a two state solution. guess what the Israeli president for the 1st time in history agreed! Gitmo closed! (closing) said! done!. he's the Kobe or Le-Bron of presidents, lol.
i LOVE this guy! he's forcing bad business men out of our major industries and companies and holding people accountable for there bad practices. he's gonna change the way we think about energy, health care, and education while promoting peace and tolerance around the globe. and he'll go full go after the REAL bad guys hiding in Kashmer. he's a bad a__ M F'er!
Barrack ROCKS!!!!
You owe me a tube of toothpaste. I just puked in my mouth a little bit.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by Rslinger
http:///forum/post/3068029
wow its been a while.... but i got to jump in on fixed news. come on i am not going to say that msnbc doesn't tilt things to because they do.. but fox come on have they ever said a good word about our president? i do watch msnbc regular and keith olbermann takes shots at the president with the things he doesn't like. chris matthew does they all do. they don't always just talk great about him, they get on his case too, but atleast there views aren't so far off that they can still see the good and the bad. when are the 26% of the american public going to get you are the minority. do i agree with everything that has happend NO. do i have to, NO. Can i still believe we have the right man for the job,YES.
Just admitting you watch Olberman says a lot
That guy is not only biased, he is a liar. But he is not supposed to be a legitimate journalist, at least not to people who understand the difference between opinion shows and hard news coverage. Chris Mathews is a political partisan. Up until the 04 election I watched him every night. He was a mirror image of Bill Oreilly, A slightly left of center independent. But in 04 he went solidly in the tank for the Democrats and has just moved further and further away since then.
Don't know who the 26% is you referred to but just keep watching the polling data. People are slowly starting to wake up
 
dbestnindy

dbestnindy

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Originally Posted by VinnyRaptor
http:///forum/post/3065661
in 6 short months he has begun to restore our good name in the world especially in the middle east. the stock market has seen a steady rise ( dipped a bit in the last 2 days) since his inauguration. his approval rating is record setting, he's saying all the right things and implementing the plans and idea's he promised.
this is AWESOME! a president who can actually do what he said he was gonna do and do it with intelligence, dignity, and respect. his plate is filled with problems both foreign and domestic and yet he glides through all of the issues and offer's REAL solutions. when speaking of the Palestine/Israel conflict he said the only solution is a two state solution. guess what the Israeli president for the 1st time in history agreed! Gitmo closed! (closing) said! done!. he's the Kobe or Le-Bron of presidents, lol.
i LOVE this guy! he's forcing bad business men out of our major industries and companies and holding people accountable for there bad practices. he's gonna change the way we think about energy, health care, and education while promoting peace and tolerance around the globe. and he'll go full go after the REAL bad guys hiding in Kashmer. he's a bad a__ M F'er!
Barrack ROCKS!!!!
I'll need some toothpaste too. Wow, where do you get your news?
 
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