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jstdv8
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shes been at her current job 1 year longer than Ive been alive. thats quite an accomplishment 
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meowzer
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Originally Posted by Jstdv8
http:///forum/post/3199512
shes been at her current job 1 year longer than Ive been alive. thats quite an accomplishment
I was 12 when she started
http:///forum/post/3199512
shes been at her current job 1 year longer than Ive been alive. thats quite an accomplishment
flower
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by Jstdv8
http:///forum/post/3199464
Flower,
Finally I get to help you instead of the other way around
I don't know about the lemon juice. I only tried it on one aiptasia and all it did was suck in and came back out later so I chalked it up to not working. had 3 peppermints and they went MIA after a couple days, never saw them actually eat one. Allthough they went crazy for a piece that was dropped into thier tank at the LFS.
SOOOOooo onto what worked for me.
I bought 100 lbs of live rock for 75 bucks about a month ago. the only downside was that it was FILLED with aiptasia probably about 200 or more. some huge, some just teny tiny.
Finally after trying all the cheap methods with no results I found a site that bosted kalk mix as the answer and not only that but they said you can make it out of mrs wages pickling lime which is about 4 bucks for a 20 lifetime supply of the powder. Just mix it up to a paste thats fine enough to get syringed through you applicator but you don't want it watery so that it doesnt stick to the rocks either.
it works just like aiptasia x just get them to touch the tip and they think its food and then just paste it on thier little faces. they will sometimes be quick enough to retreat back into thier holes so just cover the hole with the paste. Leave it on there for about 45 minutes and then suck the little bugger out with a turkey baster.
there are a bunch of reasons why I beleive this is the best option...
1.) you cover thier oral disc so they can't blow out thier little spawn seed all over the tank and make babies.
2.) you actually remove them from the tank
3.) kalk mix is widley used (in moderation) for helping with calcium and PH levels in tanks anyways.
4.) you usually get most of the mix you pasted on the bad guy back up i the turkey baster with the baddie so its not flying all over your tank.
5.) its super cheap and easy to make
make sure and turn your power heads off first so they don't blow the paste all over on your other corals.
I treated my LR in a 55 gallon tank that was seperate from my actual 90 gallon becuase I didnt want to introduce the aiptasia into my system. but the LR i got had a kenya tree, a nice chunk of green star polyps, ricordia, a rose bubble tip anemone and a few brown mushrooms in there while I was treating. the only thing that didnt survive were the aiptasia
also had a bunch of snails and crabs that came witht he rock that stayed in the tank and I found my peppermint shrimp still alive on the bottom of the tank when I fianlly moved the rocks out to put in my display tank.
Good luck, hope this helps
Well, I just logged back and found this great advice. Jstdv8 I can’t do this on this water change but I am sure going to purchase some Mrs. Wages pickling lime for sure. I used some old aiptasia X and added some water to get it into a paste again. They melted…I could only find 3 of them. I couldn’t for the life of me remember where #4 was. I couldn’t find it after I set the tank back up either.
And as for my job. I have a monkey job. I clean passenger trains. The pay is good and I have no education. When it comes to making a living it really is the best I could do, so I stayed put.
Here is some unsolicited advice. If you don’t get a good education you must make a living from working your back. Basically, the less education you have, the harder you have to work, and you will never make the money the collage kids do in the end, sitting at a desk.
I am grateful for my job. I started when I was 17 in 1976. 8 more years and I can retire. The sad part is that most of my vacation time is used up for back aches. Not last year and hopefully not this one.
So young people…stay in school. Bored is not a reason to quit. Only quit if you can upgrade your pay and already have the other better paying job. Be on time and always do your very best and even if you dislike your boss or coworkers…never let them know it, you are there to make your money not friends.
Happy New Year everyone!
http:///forum/post/3199464
Flower,
Finally I get to help you instead of the other way around
I don't know about the lemon juice. I only tried it on one aiptasia and all it did was suck in and came back out later so I chalked it up to not working. had 3 peppermints and they went MIA after a couple days, never saw them actually eat one. Allthough they went crazy for a piece that was dropped into thier tank at the LFS.
SOOOOooo onto what worked for me.
I bought 100 lbs of live rock for 75 bucks about a month ago. the only downside was that it was FILLED with aiptasia probably about 200 or more. some huge, some just teny tiny.
Finally after trying all the cheap methods with no results I found a site that bosted kalk mix as the answer and not only that but they said you can make it out of mrs wages pickling lime which is about 4 bucks for a 20 lifetime supply of the powder. Just mix it up to a paste thats fine enough to get syringed through you applicator but you don't want it watery so that it doesnt stick to the rocks either.
it works just like aiptasia x just get them to touch the tip and they think its food and then just paste it on thier little faces. they will sometimes be quick enough to retreat back into thier holes so just cover the hole with the paste. Leave it on there for about 45 minutes and then suck the little bugger out with a turkey baster.
there are a bunch of reasons why I beleive this is the best option...
1.) you cover thier oral disc so they can't blow out thier little spawn seed all over the tank and make babies.
2.) you actually remove them from the tank
3.) kalk mix is widley used (in moderation) for helping with calcium and PH levels in tanks anyways.
4.) you usually get most of the mix you pasted on the bad guy back up i the turkey baster with the baddie so its not flying all over your tank.
5.) its super cheap and easy to make
make sure and turn your power heads off first so they don't blow the paste all over on your other corals.
I treated my LR in a 55 gallon tank that was seperate from my actual 90 gallon becuase I didnt want to introduce the aiptasia into my system. but the LR i got had a kenya tree, a nice chunk of green star polyps, ricordia, a rose bubble tip anemone and a few brown mushrooms in there while I was treating. the only thing that didnt survive were the aiptasia
also had a bunch of snails and crabs that came witht he rock that stayed in the tank and I found my peppermint shrimp still alive on the bottom of the tank when I fianlly moved the rocks out to put in my display tank.
Good luck, hope this helps
Well, I just logged back and found this great advice. Jstdv8 I can’t do this on this water change but I am sure going to purchase some Mrs. Wages pickling lime for sure. I used some old aiptasia X and added some water to get it into a paste again. They melted…I could only find 3 of them. I couldn’t for the life of me remember where #4 was. I couldn’t find it after I set the tank back up either.
And as for my job. I have a monkey job. I clean passenger trains. The pay is good and I have no education. When it comes to making a living it really is the best I could do, so I stayed put.
Here is some unsolicited advice. If you don’t get a good education you must make a living from working your back. Basically, the less education you have, the harder you have to work, and you will never make the money the collage kids do in the end, sitting at a desk.
I am grateful for my job. I started when I was 17 in 1976. 8 more years and I can retire. The sad part is that most of my vacation time is used up for back aches. Not last year and hopefully not this one.
So young people…stay in school. Bored is not a reason to quit. Only quit if you can upgrade your pay and already have the other better paying job. Be on time and always do your very best and even if you dislike your boss or coworkers…never let them know it, you are there to make your money not friends.
Happy New Year everyone!
cranberry
Active Member
I use lemon juice in the tank all the time. I've tried lemon, vinegar, kalk and all the store products. It all works about the same :-(
One of my tanks that I couldn't get into very easily because of swimming waspfish, I bought a pair of brsitletail filefish. WOW... they cleared it all up in 2weeks. I wouldn't have bought them just for that purpose... but I also thought they looked cool.
One of my tanks that I couldn't get into very easily because of swimming waspfish, I bought a pair of brsitletail filefish. WOW... they cleared it all up in 2weeks. I wouldn't have bought them just for that purpose... but I also thought they looked cool.
halamaya
Member
I used a Kleins BUtterfly fish and he went crazy, but after his work was done he started nipping at any coral that looked similar. Now he's in my aggressive tank until I need his services again. Has anyone ever tried Berghia nudibranchs? I think I spelled it right, my LFS has carried them lately. They're very small but eat apistasia and supposedly breed well. However they cost 20 bucks a piece. I bought three and I've only seen them once with my led flashlight at night.
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jstdv8
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copperband butterfly or raccoon butterfly would also do it, but when the aip is gone they turn on other things in the tank that you probably paid good money for. Berghia nudibranchs will die off as soon as all the aiptasia is gone becuse thts all they eat. so if you get a couple and they kill all the aiptasia make sure and give them to a new home
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jstdv8
Guest
some of the guys from our LFS just filmed this last night. check it out.
I wish it would have been a bit more close up but you can get the idea....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FIDieKNSyA
I wish it would have been a bit more close up but you can get the idea....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FIDieKNSyA
flower
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by Jstdv8
http:///forum/post/3199863
some of the guys from our LFS just filmed this last night. check it out.
I wish it would have been a bit more close up but you can get the idea....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FIDieKNSyA
If you had that many peppermint shrimp and nothing else in the tank, I am sure they would go for aiptasia like crazy. Most of us don't have a tank full of them to fight over food.
My peppermint shrimps, if they are still in there, have to go hunting. I have not seen them since I put them into the tank. The first 3 months I saw no aiptasia, now it seems that everywhere I look I see one. Perhaps if they weren't in there I would have more than 4. Maybe I just need to buy more shrimps.
http:///forum/post/3199863
some of the guys from our LFS just filmed this last night. check it out.
I wish it would have been a bit more close up but you can get the idea....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FIDieKNSyA
If you had that many peppermint shrimp and nothing else in the tank, I am sure they would go for aiptasia like crazy. Most of us don't have a tank full of them to fight over food.
My peppermint shrimps, if they are still in there, have to go hunting. I have not seen them since I put them into the tank. The first 3 months I saw no aiptasia, now it seems that everywhere I look I see one. Perhaps if they weren't in there I would have more than 4. Maybe I just need to buy more shrimps.
cranberry
Active Member
They will pretty much go for anything you put in the tanks... try putting your hand in that tank and you'll soon feel the shrimp crawling and picking.
In the tanks I've put peps in, they've taken care of my appies in short order. I've never had the type that didn't eat them.
In the tanks I've put peps in, they've taken care of my appies in short order. I've never had the type that didn't eat them.
flower
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3200055
They will pretty much go for anything you put in the tanks... try putting your hand in that tank and you'll soon feel the shrimp crawling and picking.
In the tanks I've put peps in, they've taken care of my appies in short order. I've never had the type that didn't eat them.
I put 3 in my 90g. How many do you recommend? I have 2 cleaner shrimps and I see them all the time but never the peppermints. I was told they get along so I wasn't worried.
http:///forum/post/3200055
They will pretty much go for anything you put in the tanks... try putting your hand in that tank and you'll soon feel the shrimp crawling and picking.
In the tanks I've put peps in, they've taken care of my appies in short order. I've never had the type that didn't eat them.
I put 3 in my 90g. How many do you recommend? I have 2 cleaner shrimps and I see them all the time but never the peppermints. I was told they get along so I wasn't worried.
meowzer
Moderator
Originally Posted by Flower
http:///forum/post/3200061
I put 3 in my 90g. How many do you recommend? I have 2 cleaner shrimps and I see them all the time but never the peppermints. I was told they get along so I wasn't worried.
i have about 6 peppermints in my 225G....The only time I see them is at night (dark) or feeding time LOL.....I feed them scallop pieces with the tongs, so they have learned tocome out and get it
They are hiders
http:///forum/post/3200061
I put 3 in my 90g. How many do you recommend? I have 2 cleaner shrimps and I see them all the time but never the peppermints. I was told they get along so I wasn't worried.
i have about 6 peppermints in my 225G....The only time I see them is at night (dark) or feeding time LOL.....I feed them scallop pieces with the tongs, so they have learned tocome out and get it
They are hiders
flower
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3200065
i have about 6 peppermints in my 225G....The only time I see them is at night (dark) or feeding time LOL.....I feed them scallop pieces with the tongs, so they have learned tocome out and get it
They are hiders
Well I put 3 in there, and I never see them, and I have moonlights. I was not so concerned that they hide, but now I see aiptasia and thought they must have bit the dust.
They were a pretty color and much smaller than the cleaners.
http:///forum/post/3200065
i have about 6 peppermints in my 225G....The only time I see them is at night (dark) or feeding time LOL.....I feed them scallop pieces with the tongs, so they have learned tocome out and get it
They are hiders
Well I put 3 in there, and I never see them, and I have moonlights. I was not so concerned that they hide, but now I see aiptasia and thought they must have bit the dust.
They were a pretty color and much smaller than the cleaners.
meowzer
Moderator
Originally Posted by Flower
http:///forum/post/3200070
Well I put 3 in there, and I never see them, and I have moonlights. I was not so concerned that they hide, but now I see aiptasia and thought they must have bit the dust.
They were a pretty color and much smaller than the cleaners.
That's pretty funny, cause I thought the same thing....I didn't see them for a couple of months,and then I got that one aptasia
Next thing I know I spotted one...then 2....3..4...5...LOL
so you never know I guess
http:///forum/post/3200070
Well I put 3 in there, and I never see them, and I have moonlights. I was not so concerned that they hide, but now I see aiptasia and thought they must have bit the dust.
They were a pretty color and much smaller than the cleaners.
That's pretty funny, cause I thought the same thing....I didn't see them for a couple of months,and then I got that one aptasia
Next thing I know I spotted one...then 2....3..4...5...LOL
so you never know I guess
marine8412
New Member
I had a bad problem with those stinging guys...tried shrimp, they worked but died.
I take a cup of boiling water and a turkey injector syring and balst a teasoon directly on them. They went away without problem and have not come back. You might need to hit them twice since they do retreat into the rock work.
I take a cup of boiling water and a turkey injector syring and balst a teasoon directly on them. They went away without problem and have not come back. You might need to hit them twice since they do retreat into the rock work.
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ali19
Guest
My peppermints went MIA as soon as i put them in but they come out at night. If you want a safe way with no chemicals try cutting the Aiptasia with a pair of scissors like you would if you were trying to make it split into two. its difficult to do but if you get it right the shrimp will eat them after you do this. they like them small. I had aiptasia everywhere and i got some aiptasia X off someone for free and that works good but its expensive but the good thing is it lasts forever!
Ali
Ali
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jstdv8
Guest
Aiptasia X is basically the same thing as kalk paste which is the same thing as pickling lime paste which is only 4 bucks for a lifetime supply at the local grocery store. The only thing the name brand things have that is better is the nifty applicator that has the bend in it for getting into hard to reach spaces.
I'd advise against cutting them to make them smaller for the shrimp because if you harm them they will blow out thier spores/seeds/babies whatever all over you tank and you will have 20 more in a week. thats why aiptaisa x, kalk paste and pickling lime paste work so good, becuase you cover thier oral disc with the paste right off and they cant release. not only that but they actually ingest it because they think its food. only downside to those products is you shouldnt treat a whole bunch at one time as you might get a PH spike.
I'd advise against cutting them to make them smaller for the shrimp because if you harm them they will blow out thier spores/seeds/babies whatever all over you tank and you will have 20 more in a week. thats why aiptaisa x, kalk paste and pickling lime paste work so good, becuase you cover thier oral disc with the paste right off and they cant release. not only that but they actually ingest it because they think its food. only downside to those products is you shouldnt treat a whole bunch at one time as you might get a PH spike.
flower
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by Jstdv8
http:///forum/post/3200758
Aiptasia X is basically the same thing as kalk paste which is the same thing as pickling lime paste which is only 4 bucks for a lifetime supply at the local grocery store. The only thing the name brand things have that is better is the nifty applicator that has the bend in it for getting into hard to reach spaces.
I'd advise against cutting them to make them smaller for the shrimp because if you harm them they will blow out thier spores/seeds/babies whatever all over you tank and you will have 20 more in a week. thats why aiptaisa x, kalk paste and pickling lime paste work so good, becuase you cover thier oral disc with the paste right off and they cant release. not only that but they actually ingest it because they think its food. only downside to those products is you shouldnt treat a whole bunch at one time as you might get a PH spike.
+1
LOL...However, by cutting them you are making sure the peppermint shrimp have enough food to eat.
All kidding aside, if I were going to go through the trouble to try and cut them I may as well zap them with something to try and kill it. Snipping at them is harder.
http:///forum/post/3200758
Aiptasia X is basically the same thing as kalk paste which is the same thing as pickling lime paste which is only 4 bucks for a lifetime supply at the local grocery store. The only thing the name brand things have that is better is the nifty applicator that has the bend in it for getting into hard to reach spaces.
I'd advise against cutting them to make them smaller for the shrimp because if you harm them they will blow out thier spores/seeds/babies whatever all over you tank and you will have 20 more in a week. thats why aiptaisa x, kalk paste and pickling lime paste work so good, becuase you cover thier oral disc with the paste right off and they cant release. not only that but they actually ingest it because they think its food. only downside to those products is you shouldnt treat a whole bunch at one time as you might get a PH spike.
+1
LOL...However, by cutting them you are making sure the peppermint shrimp have enough food to eat.
All kidding aside, if I were going to go through the trouble to try and cut them I may as well zap them with something to try and kill it. Snipping at them is harder.
flower
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3200779
I don't think they were suggesting an easier route, just one that would hopefully be more successful.
Middle of the night and I was being silly, trying to make a joke. I hope I didn't hurt anyones feelings. I put a smilely.
I have my lights retro fit into my canopy…removing it is a big pain in the butt. So I try and do everything when I am doing water changes. I move unhappy coral to a better spot (hopefully) kill any bad things off like aiptasia and clean off power heads and other stuff from any extra algae growth.
So what I meant was, that if I were going to go through all the hassle of removing the lights and canopy, then I would want to go with something more permanent than try and just split them for the shrimp to eat.
I don’t think my peppermints are in the tank anymore. Not because I don’t see them, I never did. Now I see aiptasia and before I didn’t. I spotted 4 of the little stingers.
I also believe that if I irritate an aiptasia it will spawn..is that correct or is it folk tale?
http:///forum/post/3200779
I don't think they were suggesting an easier route, just one that would hopefully be more successful.
Middle of the night and I was being silly, trying to make a joke. I hope I didn't hurt anyones feelings. I put a smilely.
I have my lights retro fit into my canopy…removing it is a big pain in the butt. So I try and do everything when I am doing water changes. I move unhappy coral to a better spot (hopefully) kill any bad things off like aiptasia and clean off power heads and other stuff from any extra algae growth.
So what I meant was, that if I were going to go through all the hassle of removing the lights and canopy, then I would want to go with something more permanent than try and just split them for the shrimp to eat.
I don’t think my peppermints are in the tank anymore. Not because I don’t see them, I never did. Now I see aiptasia and before I didn’t. I spotted 4 of the little stingers.
I also believe that if I irritate an aiptasia it will spawn..is that correct or is it folk tale?