"Redistribution of Wealth"

[geridoc]

Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/2816449
In 1995, Texans got the right to carry concealed weapons if they obtained permits to do so. Since then, violent crime rates in the state have fallen.
Here are some of the statistics compiled by the Texas Department of Public Safety comparing crimes in 1995 to those in 1999.
* Per 100,000 population, rates for aggravated assault fell from 429.3 to 370.
* Robberies declined from a rate of 179.8 to 146.8.
* The ---- rate was down to 38.1 per 100,000 from 45.5.
* And murders fell from 9 per 100,000 to 6.1.
Since carrying a concealed weapon in the Lone Star State was legalized, overall violent crimes have declined from 644.2 per 100,000 to 561.
http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/?Article...7&page=article
I can give you more info if you like.There is a lot more of the same
Just one problem - over that same time period national murder rates fell by about 8% annually, which makes Texas' decline less than the national decline. By that standard, Texas' gun ban doesn't look so good. Just a fact check, I'm not a ban-the-gun nut so don't shoot the messenger.

 

[zman1]

Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/2816535
McCains will be better
"Freinds,
Now that i have beaten back the tides of Socialism ,i will now kill terrorists and lower you taxes
Thank you,
and GOD Bless America"
Come on, think about it - Maverick
The Maverick's own party doesn't like him ( His peers in the HoR and Senate)
The Democrats really don't like him.
He's a fighter (as self-proclaimed and by supporters - A plus, I think not) , as we all know how dear everyone loves a bully, they just bring everyone to together...
He claimed, he will make the pork barrel requester famous!!! What happened to the Bush Bailout that was loaded with Republican PORK so more would sign on to the bill? He didn't get on TV and make them FAMOUS. Hypocrite to the Nth degree. A non-socialist Maverick would have been against it...

 

[bionicarm]

Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2816527
Ok... using that logic, prove to me that Obama is not a fish.
Obama stated his position. He has never recanted it. You say I'm fabricating it by posting his own answers to the question?
Show me where he recanted it Bionicarm.
You and McCain sure like that word recant. Some OTHER Demo bashes McCain and compares him to a rascist, and he wants Obama to 'recant' the accusation. OBAMA DIDN'T SAY IT MORON. Again exchange the name McCain for Obama in your Head Up The Rear photo Veci boy, and you have it correct.

Read the previous post dufus from the British newspaper. When Obama reverses course and agrees with your argument, you cry "Now he's a flip flopper. He'll say whatever it takes to win the election."

All you need to do is change Obama to McCain, and you have the same results. At least Obama spells out what his policies are. I've yet to understand any of McCain's double talk (Queue in Governor from Best Little Wh0reh0use)...

 

[veni vidi vici]

Originally Posted by GeriDoc
http:///forum/post/2816583
Just one problem - over that same time period national murder rates fell by about 8% annually, which makes Texas' decline less than the national decline. By that standard, Texas' gun ban doesn't look so good. Just a fact check, I'm not a ban-the-gun nut so don't shoot the messenger.
If i or you where to go state by state on the CCW right before and after ,you will see violent crime has gone down.If there was a national data base i could point you to that link,however there isnt so you will have to look for yourself on a state by state basis.

 

[bionicarm]

Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2816548
To move this thread along...
Another one of those interesting little facts to go along with my point of this thread.
Everyone talks about how Obama looks out for the little guy how he wants to help the poor. He justifies "redistribution of wealth" by saying he wants to help the poor.
Yet, when you look at Obama's tax records, you see he doesn't care a bit about the poor.
So, what is his real motive?
Move this thread along.. Good one rambo.
Where's Obama's platform on gun comtrol? Let's see it.
Obama's tax records?

Now you want to split hairs over the fact he doesn't report many charitable contributions on his personal tax report? Give me a break. Just look at all the millions he helped raise for charities in Illinois. So he doesn't show he gave half his personal income to charities, he doesn't care? You are a joke.
Yea, let's compare those to McCain's, Mr. "I own 8 houses and my wife is a billionaire". I'm sure he REALLY cares for the poor.

 

[veni vidi vici]

Originally Posted by zman1
http:///forum/post/2816590
Come on, think about it - Maverick
The Maverick's own party doesn't like him ( His peers in the HoR and Senate)
The Democrats really don't like him.
He's a fighter (as self-proclaimed and by supporters - A plus, I think not) , as we all know how dear everyone loves a bully, they just bring everyone to together...
He claimed, he will make the pork barrel requester famous!!! What happened to the Bush Bailout that was loaded with Republican PORK so more would sign on to the bill? He didn't get on TV and make them FAMOUS. Hypocrite to the Nth degree. A non-socialist Maverick would have been against it...
That is your Opinion , mine is different,so i guess we will have to wait and see on Nov.4th

 

[bionicarm]

Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/2816606
If i or you where to go state by state on the CCW right before and after ,you will see violent crime has gone down.If there was a national data base i could point you to that link,however there isnt so you will have to look for yourself on a state by state basis.
Murders have gone up every year here in San Antonio, TEXAS since that law passed. And if you shoot a criminal more than once while they're committing the crime, they arrest YOU for excessive violence and attempted murder...

 

[zman1]

I actually like what Palin did in Alaska with regards to oil. Tax the heck out of the oil companies and give it back to the people in rebate checks. Though some on here may call that a redistribution of wealth. I believe it is a redistribution of wealth from the people that went to the oil companies. The people are just getting some of their wealth back. Same with the middleclass tax cut of Obama's, just getting some of it back.
The McCain/Palin campaign should talk more about this, as the people of Alaska love it. This may be part of the reason she has such a high approval rating there.

 

[geridoc]

Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/2816606
If i or you where to go state by state on the CCW right before and after ,you will see violent crime has gone down.If there was a national data base i could point you to that link,however there isnt so you will have to look for yourself on a state by state basis.
National and state-by-state at http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/ucr.htm.

 

[veni vidi vici]

Originally Posted by zman1 http:///forum/post/2816627
I actually like what Palin did in Alaska with regards to oil. Tax the heck out of the oil companies and give it back to the people in rebate checks. Though some on here may call that a redistribution of wealth. I believe it is a redistribution of wealth from the people that went to the oil companies. The people are just getting some of their wealth back. Same with the middleclass tax cut of Obama's, just getting some of it back.
The McCain/Palin campaign should talk more about this, as the people of Alaska love it. This may be part of the reason she has such a high approval rating there.
Already discounted this suggestion.
https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/338691/redistribution-of-wealth/20

 

[veni vidi vici]

Originally Posted by GeriDoc
http:///forum/post/2816642
National and state-by-state at http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/ucr.htm.
there are 40 states that are CCW states .You cannot separate the CCW from the Non -CCW on this site.
Try here:http://www.azccw.com/More%20Facts%20&%20Statistics.htm
BTW Chicago has the highest murder rate in the nation and Illinois in a NON-CCW state.
*EDIT*After i took another look you can see state by state,but i cannot cross reference with crime stats before and after c CCW laws where enacted.

 

[tang master]

Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2815970
Obama is not against guns, but against guns being used by criminals. Does anyone remember the gun violence in Chicago the last couple summers?
This last summer there were 36 people shot over 1 weekend. So I to would want something done about this if this was my city. No one is against a hunter's right to arms, or guns for home protection. What use do semi-auto and auto guns have in society? Why do people need an AR-15 besides that they are cool? or a 50 cal?
HaHa, nice one. How about you go get your facts right then come back with something smart to say.

 

[tang master]

Originally Posted by sickboy
http:///forum/post/2815509
-Bush used cocaine
-IMO Bush has destroyed a couple nations, US and Iraq
-Where have you been on the Birth Certificate thing? Already been shown.
-Bush idiot
-McCain ranked in the bottom 5 of his naval class= idiot
-Socialist? How nationalized AIG? Oh yeah, Bush...
Granted I'm not to hot on Obama's gun restrictions, I like my guns.
Where did you get the fact that Bush used coke. And here is a fact about McCain, he graduated from the U.S. Naval Academy in 1958. He became a naval aviator, flying ground-attack aircraft from aircraft carriers. During the Vietnam War, he nearly lost his life in the 1967 USS Forrestal fire. In October 1967, while on a bombing mission over Hanoi, he was shot down, badly injured, and captured by the North Vietnamese. He was a prisoner of war until 1973, experiencing episodes of torture and refusing an out-of-sequence early repatriation offer; his war wounds left him with lifelong physical limitations. And even though he would have ranked on the bottom of naval academy(much like how you wouldn't even qualify to lick the dirt off his shoe), he retired from the Navy as a captain in 1981. That is how you get your facts right!

 

[tang master]

Originally Posted by Jmick
http:///forum/post/2815416
That one, isn't that code for he's black?
I have heard from a reliable source that Obama has officially been endorsed by the black panthers, the entire continent of Africa, Jamaica, pockets in the middle-east who have been listening to right wing radio and have been brainwashed to believe he is indeed a Muslim and there are reports that Marx has made communications from the other side to support Obama

Hey, why do you have to start being racist and pulling up the race card? Oh, is it because that is the only thing your good at?

 

[jmick]

Originally Posted by Tang Master
http:///forum/post/2816792
Hey, why do you have to start being racist and pulling up the race card? Oh, is it because that is the only thing your good at?
I don't think you were able to pick up on it, but my comment was made to be tongue in cheek. I suspect you probably don't know what this means so Google it.

 

[bionicarm]

Originally Posted by Tang Master
http:///forum/post/2816785
Where did you get the fact that Bush used coke. And here is a fact about McCain, he graduated from the U.S. Naval Academy in 1958. He became a naval aviator, flying ground-attack aircraft from aircraft carriers. During the Vietnam War, he nearly lost his life in the 1967 USS Forrestal fire. In October 1967, while on a bombing mission over Hanoi, he was shot down, badly injured, and captured by the North Vietnamese. He was a prisoner of war until 1973, experiencing episodes of torture and refusing an out-of-sequence early repatriation offer; his war wounds left him with lifelong physical limitations. And even though he would have ranked on the bottom of naval academy(much like how you wouldn't even qualify to lick the dirt off his shoe), he retired from the Navy as a captain in 1981. That is how you get your facts right!
Yet another boring history lesson about Capt. McCain. Here's a thought. Maybe if the guy wouldn't have partied so much at the Naval Academy and actually studied, he would have graduated higher in his class. You know, pay attention more during your flight training? Maybe avoid being shot down? But then we wouldn't get to listen on NUMEROUS occassions how he was a POW during the Vietnam Political Conflict. Nothing like getting that 'I'm Proud To Be An American' vote.

 

[aquaknight]

Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2816894
Yet another boring history lesson about Capt. McCain. Here's a thought. Maybe if the guy wouldn't have partied so much at the Naval Academy and actually studied, he would have graduated higher in his class. You know, pay attention more during your flight training? Maybe avoid being shot down? But then we wouldn't get to listen on NUMEROUS occassions how he was a POW during the Vietnam Political Conflict. Nothing like getting that 'I'm Proud To Be An American' vote.
You know, you really don't have to toss your 2¢ on everything. I had no idea you went to flight school, or even had some sense about flying (training, etc) to run your mouth... Let alone any manchops to serve in a conflict...

 

[wangotango]

Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2816894
Yet another boring history lesson about Capt. McCain. Here's a thought. Maybe if the guy wouldn't have partied so much at the Naval Academy and actually studied, he would have graduated higher in his class. You know, pay attention more during your flight training? Maybe avoid being shot down? But then we wouldn't get to listen on NUMEROUS occassions how he was a POW during the Vietnam Political Conflict. Nothing like getting that 'I'm Proud To Be An American' vote.
So if McCain kept his nose in the books he would not have been shot down?
-Justin

 

[bionicarm]

Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/2816909
You know, you really don't have to toss your 2¢ on everything. I had no idea you went to flight school, or even had some sense about flying (training, etc) to run your mouth... Let alone any manchops to serve in a conflict...
WAH, WAH, WAH. Love how the McCain lover's don't like it when you diss McCain about his time in The Conflict. We're supposed to bow down and kiss his feet because he suffered in a POW camp, even when he could have gotten out. Sorry dude, I had family and friends in that same little war. A close friend didn't come back, one came back missing pieces, and another spent almost the same amount of time as McCain as a POW. NONE of them have ever had the fanfare or used their experiences to benefit themselves like McCain has. You talk to anyone one of them, and they just roll their eyes when they hear McCain go on about his traumatic experiences in Vietnam.

 

[tang master]

Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/2816909
You know, you really don't have to toss your 2¢ on everything. I had no idea you went to flight school, or even had some sense about flying (training, etc) to run your mouth... Let alone any manchops to serve in a conflict...
Let me ask you a question you worthless bum, did you ever have the "I'll say guts to avoid a moderator" to join the military? Oh yeah thats right your to big of a "sissy", so how about you show some respect to the man who has more "guts" than you'll ever have and shut your mouth.