"Redistribution of Wealth"

bionicarm

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by 1journeyman http:///forum/post/2816292
You said not enough judges were going to retire in the next President's term to make a difference. I pointed out all it takes is one.
No, judges do not have to be approved by a non-partisan committee.
I am well versed in the Constitution. Clearly more so than you. The Congress does not change Amendments. They can only pass new Amendments to amend the old ones. The Supreme Court interprets the Constitution and Amendments.
Here's a little history on the Supreme Court and the 2nd Amendment:
http://www.davekopel.com/2A/LawRev/35FinalPartOne.htm
Here's a legal review as to whether McCain or Obama could make any drastic changes to Supreme Court decisions:
http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202425242336&rss=newswire&slreturn=20130220160628
Here's one for you. An article in a British newspaper from June 27, 2008 that states Obama SUPPORTED the Supreme Court decision on the reversal of the D.C. gun ban:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008...arackobama.usa
Guess you didn't find this snippet while trashing Obama about his gun control issues.
 
bionicarm

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2816413
I love it, in order to justify you voting for your candidate you have to totally ignore his actions, and listen to what he says on the stump. This is awesome! You people when confronted with facts have no argument, Your support is one of complete blind faith.
Here's one for you. An article in a British newspaper from June 27, 2008 that states Obama SUPPORTED the Supreme Court decision on the reversal of the D.C. gun ban:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008...arackobama.usa
Guess you didn't find this snippet while trashing Obama about his gun control issues.
Kind of like your blind faith when you believe McCain is going to balance the budget, reduce federal spending, and reduce taxes?
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2815970
Obama is not against guns, but against guns being used by criminals. Does anyone remember the gun violence in Chicago the last couple summers?
This last summer there were 36 people shot over 1 weekend. So I to would want something done about this if this was my city. No one is against a hunter's right to arms, or guns for home protection. What use do semi-auto and auto guns have in society? Why do people need an AR-15 besides that they are cool? or a 50 cal?
If Obama isn't against gun why did he support a total ban on handguns? He also voted to limit gun purchases.
Why do people need big houses or fast cars? An AR15 is a pretty safe choice as far as guns go. You know what it costs to pull the trigger on a 50 cal? You ever hear of one being used in a drive by? 9mm is most commonly used in crimes because the weapons and ammo are cheap.
 
bionicarm

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/2816480
McCain camp demands L.A. Times release video
John McCain's campaign is demanding that the Los Angeles Times release a video of a party for a prominent Palestinian activist that Barack Obama attended in 2003.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmi...o.html?showall
Time to queue the X-Files music again. If you spent as much energy on addressing the REAL issues of this nation, instead of trying to find ridiculous accusations about Obama's patriotism, I'd have better repect for your opinions. I guess you've all figured it out. Obama is a closet terrorist, an Al-Qaeda operative planted to obtain the highest office of this nation so the Middle East can take over the country!! WOW. IT'S SO CLEAR NOW. Let's hang the dude now and get it over with!!!
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2816478
Here's one for you. An article in a British newspaper from June 27, 2008 that states Obama SUPPORTED the Supreme Court decision on the reversal of the D.C. gun ban:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008...arackobama.usa
Guess you didn't find this snippet while trashing Obama about his gun control issues.
Kind of like your blind faith when you believe McCain is going to balance the budget, reduce federal spending, and reduce taxes?
You really think a presidential candidate on the stump is more "truthful" than when he was just giving an interview, voting on bills in the state senate or filling out a questionaire while running for a state senate seat?
You really should stop making things up. I never said mccain would do any of these things minus possibly reduce taxes.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2816478
Here's one for you. An article in a British newspaper from June 27, 2008 that states Obama SUPPORTED the Supreme Court decision on the reversal of the D.C. gun ban:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008...arackobama.usa
Guess you didn't find this snippet while trashing Obama about his gun control issues.
Kind of like your blind faith when you believe McCain is going to balance the budget, reduce federal spending, and reduce taxes?

Goes to show Obama will say ANYTHING to try to get elected.
In the latest in a series of policy reversals for the Democratic presidential candidate, Obama came out in support of yesterday's supreme court decision overturning a gun ban in the city of Washington that had been a model for fighting urban crime.
He had previously supported the Washington ban, the strictest in the US.
It was the second time in 24 hours that Obama had shifted towards a more conservative position. On Wednesday, he took issue with the supreme court for striking down the death penalty for cases of child ---- that do not involve murder.
 
darthtang aw

darthtang aw

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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2816478
Here's one for you. An article in a British newspaper from June 27, 2008 that states Obama SUPPORTED the Supreme Court decision on the reversal of the D.C. gun ban:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008...arackobama.usa
Guess you didn't find this snippet while trashing Obama about his gun control issues.
Kind of like your blind faith when you believe McCain is going to balance the budget, reduce federal spending, and reduce taxes?
From the same article
""He ran to the left to get nominated, and he is running back to the centre in the general election," said Larry Sabato, a politics expert at the University of Virginia. "You can call it flipflopping, or you can call it readjusting, or you can call it determined to win."
So basically we don't know where he stands, because he is afterall a politician, so one should proceed with caution.
Personally I am "hoping" Obama wins. I can get through a rough 4 years, especially if it wakes people up to being fiscal with government money....something this country drastically needs to realize.
 
veni vidi vici

veni vidi vici

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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2816485
Time to queue the X-Files music again. If you spent as much energy on addressing the REAL issues of this nation, instead of trying to find ridiculous accusations about Obama's patriotism, I'd have better repect for your opinions. I guess you've all figured it out. Obama is a closet terrorist, an Al-Qaeda operative planted to obtain the highest office of this nation so the Middle East can take over the country!! WOW. IT'S SO CLEAR NOW. Let's hang the dude now and get it over with!!!
Hey man im just passing on info thats comming from a paper that has endorsed Obama.
Here is the photo to go with the X-music
 
1journeyman

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2816404
Therein lies your problem. You keep looking at the history. Comments that were made years ago. WHAT DID HE SAY TODAY. PEOPLE CHANGE THEIR MINDS. The only 'facts' you're spewing are your interpretations of snippets of conversations or quotes he made off the cuff. Why should I do the research? I'm calling YOU a liar. I say you're fabricating the entire gun control issue. Prove me wrong, and not with side quotes the guy made 6 years ago. PRESENT DAY POLICIES. If you can't show that, get over it.
Ok... using that logic, prove to me that Obama is not a fish.
Obama stated his position. He has never recanted it. You say I'm fabricating it by posting his own answers to the question?
Show me where he recanted it Bionicarm.
 
zman1

zman1

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Originally Posted by zman1
http:///forum/post/2816254

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"This administration had its moment. They had their chance. They have not led. We will.
This generation was given the gift of the best education in American history. Yet we do not share that gift with everyone. Seven of 10 fourth-graders in our highest poverty schools cannot read a simple children's book.
And still this administration continues on the same old path with the same old programs while millions are trapped in schools where violence is common and learning is rare.
This administration had its chance. They have not led. We will.
America has a strong economy and a surplus. We have the public resources and the public will even the bipartisan opportunities to strengthen Social Security and repair Medicare.
But this administration during eight years of increasing need did nothing.
They had their moment. They have not led. We will.
Our generation has a chance to reclaim some essential values to show we have grown up before we grow old.
But when the moment for leadership came, this administration did not teach our children, it disillusioned them.
They had their chance. They have not led. We will.
And now they come asking for another chance, another shot.
Our answer? Not this time. Not this year.
This is not a time for third chances, it is a time for new beginnings.
The rising generations of this country have our own appointment with greatness.
It does not rise or fall with the stock market. It cannot be bought with our wealth.
Greatness is found when American character and American courage overcome American challenges."
Just in case you didn't recognize the words, these were from the 2000 G. W. Bush...
 
1journeyman

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2816478
Here's one for you. An article in a British newspaper from June 27, 2008 that states Obama SUPPORTED the Supreme Court decision on the reversal of the D.C. gun ban:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008...arackobama.usa
Guess you didn't find this snippet while trashing Obama about his gun control issues....

Did you even read the article or did you just like the headline?
"Barack Obama intensified his campaign to appeal to voters on the life-and-death issues of the American heartland yesterday by stepping away from his past support for gun control.
In the latest in a series of policy reversals for the Democratic presidential candidate, Obama came out in support of yesterday's supreme court decision overturning a gun ban in the city of Washington that had been a model for fighting urban crime.
He had previously supported the Washington ban, the strictest in the US.
It was the second time in 24 hours that Obama had shifted towards a more conservative position.
..."
So, while he is campaigning in the heartland, he suddenly reverses his position? That is your evidence?
 
veni vidi vici

veni vidi vici

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Originally Posted by zman1
http:///forum/post/2816531
Just in case you didn't recognize the words, these were from the 2000 G. W. Bush inaugural address..
McCains will be better
"Freinds,
Now that i have beaten back the tides of Socialism ,i will now kill terrorists and lower you taxes
Thank you,
and GOD Bless America"
 
1journeyman

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/2816485
Time to queue the X-Files music again. If you spent as much energy on addressing the REAL issues of this nation, instead of trying to find ridiculous accusations about Obama's patriotism, I'd have better repect for your opinions. I guess you've all figured it out. Obama is a closet terrorist, an Al-Qaeda operative planted to obtain the highest office of this nation so the Middle East can take over the country!! WOW. IT'S SO CLEAR NOW. Let's hang the dude now and get it over with!!!
No.
He's a Socialist, by his own admission.
 
zman1

zman1

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Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
http:///forum/post/2816530
How about the obvious.Or if you like Big Spender (01-05, 08) ,Building Socialism (Bush bail out wallstreet, Includes McCain),Ballot Stealing (Florida hanging chads Gore/Jeb Bush) ........
Come on, you know that is from the time rebublicans ran the entire show. Look again....
 
1journeyman

1journeyman

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To move this thread along...
Another one of those interesting little facts to go along with my point of this thread.
Everyone talks about how Obama looks out for the little guy how he wants to help the poor. He justifies "redistribution of wealth" by saying he wants to help the poor.
Yet, when you look at Obama's tax records, you see he doesn't care a bit about the poor.
So, what is his real motive?
 
reefraff

reefraff

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http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalra...camp-disa.html
"That statement was obviously an inartful attempt to explain the Senator's consistent position," Obama spokesman Bill Burton tells ABC News.
The statement which Burton describes as an inaccurate representation of the senator's views was made to the Chicago Tribune on Nov. 20, 2007.
In a story entitled, "Court to Hear Gun Case," the Chicago Tribune's James Oliphant and Michael J. Higgins wrote ". . . the campaign of Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama said that he '...believes that we can recognize and respect the rights of law-abiding gun owners and the right of local communities to enact common sense laws to combat violence and save lives. Obama believes the D.C. handgun law is constitutional.'"
Yet on Feb 11th 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wu9jE1MnAE
Not only is he anti-gun, the SOB is a liar.
 
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