Shark/aggressive tank

mboswell1982

mboswell1982

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if ur gonna go through that trouble, scratch the tub, buy a house that has a basement, preferably a daylight one, and build a lagoon outta concrete like we're gonna do with ours.
jess, my gf, her brother owns a construction company, and will pour a concrete lagoon, whatever size we want for us, free of charge :p i was gonna do 14' squared, but i think now im gonna with a 16' circle, cause i think im gonna put a couple of sharks in it along with everything else LOL
 
patrick8929

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well i want to be able to look through the front of the tank.... i dont want to have to look down at every thing. would this be to difficult?
 
crimzy

crimzy

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Originally Posted by mboswell1982
http:///forum/post/2855762
the papuan epaulette sharks, sp, are prolly the easiest sharks to take care of, they're also the most common, and according to all the literature ive seen on them, they will reproduce in captivity

Originally Posted by mboswell1982
http:///forum/post/2855772
u should be able to keep maybe a tang or 2, or a trigger or 2 of some kind, i know theres a thread on here about that somewhere lol
Epps are great sharks but they are benthic sharks... ie. bottom dwellers. So are bamboos, horns and catsharks. If you are going to do less than 1000 gallons then you are probably limited to these. Unfortunately, they are not as active as you may want. They do get active around feeding time but will spend a good amount of time in one spot.
If you are going to do a 1,000 gallon tub then you probably can do just smoothounds. If you did 3000-4000, than you could consider bonnets or blacktips.
BTW, regarding the quote above... NO TRIGGERS WITH SHARKS!! To try even the most docile is quite a gamble.
If you wanted benthic sharks, then you could make a very nice habitat for relatively cheap. Rubbermaid makes a tub that is 300 gallons. It is a circle with a 60" diameter. It's also plumbed already. You could get a tub for about $200.00 and then pick up another tub or a used tank for a sump/fuge. You would then need a good skimmer and some light for your viewing pleasure. The equipment could be done for less than $1,000.00 or so. Then the costs are simply salt, rock, sand and livestock.
 
mboswell1982

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Originally Posted by crimzy
http:///forum/post/2855842
Epps are great sharks but they are benthic sharks... ie. bottom dwellers. So are bamboos, horns and catsharks. If you are going to do less than 1000 gallons then you are probably limited to these. Unfortunately, they are not as active as you may want. They do get active around feeding time but will spend a good amount of time in one spot.
If you are going to do a 1,000 gallon tub then you probably can do just smoothounds. If you did 3000-4000, than you could consider bonnets or blacktips.
BTW, regarding the quote above... NO TRIGGERS WITH SHARKS!! To try even the most docile is quite a gamble.
If you wanted benthic sharks, then you could make a very nice habitat for relatively cheap. Rubbermaid makes a tub that is 300 gallons. It is a circle with a 60" diameter. It's also plumbed already. You could get a tub for about $200.00 and then pick up another tub or a used tank for a sump/fuge. You would then need a good skimmer and some light for your viewing pleasure. The equipment could be done for less than $1,000.00 or so. Then the costs are simply salt, rock, sand and livestock.
woot woot, go crimzy
see, i love it when people who really know what they're talking about correct me, all i know is what i read on here or on the web LOL so its nice to have someone who knows their stuff correct me
thanks crimzy :p
 
crimzy

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Originally Posted by mboswell1982
http:///forum/post/2855846
woot woot, go crimzy
see, i love it when people who really know what they're talking about correct me, all i know is what i read on here or on the web LOL so its nice to have someone who knows their stuff correct me
thanks crimzy :p
 
patrick8929

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wow that is alot less cost then i expected!!! so what i want to do is something like what requiem has just to a smaller scale. if that helps.
 
crimzy

crimzy

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Originally Posted by mboswell1982
http:///forum/post/2855855
hey crimzy, what would u recommend for a lagoon, a 14' square or a 16' circle?
Either way it would be freaking ridiculous. But actually, round tanks are better for many sharks, especially bonnets (my personal favorites).
 
mboswell1982

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what shark would be safe in the lagoonal reef we're wanting to do? cause as big as this thing is gonna be, i was figuring on putting in a pair of small sharks :p if its gonna safe for em lol
oh, an what do u think of the new angels tara33 told me about, Watanabei Angelfish, she says they school, they're reef safe, an they're friggin gorgeous
 
crimzy

crimzy

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Originally Posted by patrick8929
http:///forum/post/2855857
wow that is alot less cost then i expected!!! so what i want to do is something like what requiem has just to a smaller scale. if that helps.
Not really... requiem build an inwall tank... and a very large one. What I mentioned is using a rubbermaid tub. No build would be required, unless you want to build a structure around the tub for aesthetic reasons. The benefits to that type of setup are that it would be inexpensive and would actually be an excellent system for a couple sharks/rays. The detriment of that type of system is that it is a lookdown view. But you could make it really cool. I've always thought of doing something like that with the outer circumference clear for swimming, but the center would have liverock. Then I'd put a metal halide pendant above the center to promote growth and for viewing. You could also put a few fish in there such as tangs, groupers, etc. I think it would be a very cool project for a basement and it would be pretty simple.
 
patrick8929

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okay well that sounds cool but i just feel like i wouldnt like the lookdown view only. i want some kind of view from the side or the front
 
crimzy

crimzy

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Originally Posted by patrick8929
http:///forum/post/2855859
so if i did what requiem did but like 1000 gallons could i keep the smoothound? multiple sharks? and what fish?
First I have to use some caution with my advice because the water volume is actually not as important as the surface area of the tank... the dimensions. But if it was about 1000 gallons then you could generally do a couple of smoothounds. You could have benthic sharks mixed in, or smaller rays. Compatible fish include most tangs, most groupers, eels, some butterflies, lionfish (debatable but I've done it with no problems).
Originally Posted by mboswell1982
http:///forum/post/2855860
what shark would be safe in the lagoonal reef we're wanting to do? cause as big as this thing is gonna be, i was figuring on putting in a pair of small sharks :p if its gonna safe for em lol
oh, an what do u think of the new angels tara33 told me about, Watanabei Angelfish, she says they school, they're reef safe, an they're friggin gorgeous

I wouldn't put angelfish with sharks but some may work. It's just a crapshoot. If you are really talking about a circle with a 16' diameter, then the world is your oyster. I'd go with a couple bonnets and maybe a blacktip mixed in with a bunch of tangs, lookdowns, batfish, foxfaces. And I'd throw in a few bottom dwellers... either benthic sharks, rays or eels.
Edit: if you are going with bonnets or blacktips, I'd still want at least 36" of depth, even though depth is generally not really a concern.
 
mboswell1982

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holy crap, im over 1100 posts LOL an what we were thinking about doin with our lagoon was a reef system, just have a couple of smaller sharks in it, you know, something similar to bang guy's, just on a much larger scale LOL
 
crimzy

crimzy

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Originally Posted by patrick8929
http:///forum/post/2855866
okay well that sounds cool but i just feel like i wouldnt like the lookdown view only. i want some kind of view from the side or the front
If you're handy then you could probably mount the tub on a stand and cut out holes for windows. Then you could install acrylic for viewing areas.
 
crimzy

crimzy

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Originally Posted by mboswell1982
http:///forum/post/2855863
y dont u do it :p or would the wife freak if you added another tank to the house? LOL
Thanks but I've got enough to take care of between the tanks, dogs, cat, kids, wife, job, house, etc.
 
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