Should adultery be illegal?
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renogaw
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i don't think anyone is saying adultery is ok. i just don't feel there should be government rules and regulations about it.
and i'll go out on a limb and say premarital $ex is a problem because a lot of times it creates a baby, which then creates a situation that a lot of times people do not want to be in--single parent, or getting married and having a kid when not ready.
and i'll go out on a limb and say premarital $ex is a problem because a lot of times it creates a baby, which then creates a situation that a lot of times people do not want to be in--single parent, or getting married and having a kid when not ready.
rylan1
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Premarital $$$ does have its consquences and though I do belief that it is wrong I am also guilty... I believe that when this is done there is a bond b/w 2 people that people carry along with them into other relationships that is negative. $$$ is meant to be b/w only you and your wife according to God's plan. It is meant to be enjoyable. The problem is the bonds that you make with others that affect your marriage, the problems that result with unwanted or illigitement children, disease, abuse, etc...etc... If we followed the rules of the Bible we would have less problems such as all the $$$ crimes and abuse, addictions, ruined marriages...etc..etc...
What ClownBoy mentions is the idea that if one imagines himself or thinks of the act with someone else than his/her spouse than its also adultry according to God...
Now I know that everyone doesn't believe or have the same beliefs, and that many don't really care...or even ones that do...we are all sinners and sometimes we get caught up in the desires of the flesh...but regardless of what you believe or don't...there should be something that tells you it is wrong, unless you have turned off your conscience or are just descensizied(spelling?) to it...because that what happens today with how the media portrays it.
What ClownBoy mentions is the idea that if one imagines himself or thinks of the act with someone else than his/her spouse than its also adultry according to God...
Now I know that everyone doesn't believe or have the same beliefs, and that many don't really care...or even ones that do...we are all sinners and sometimes we get caught up in the desires of the flesh...but regardless of what you believe or don't...there should be something that tells you it is wrong, unless you have turned off your conscience or are just descensizied(spelling?) to it...because that what happens today with how the media portrays it.
jmick
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Rylan1 said:Premarital $$$ does have its consquences and though I do belief that it is wrong I am also guilty... I believe that when this is done there is a bond b/w 2 people that people carry along with them into other relationships that is negative. $$$ is meant to be b/w only you and your wife according to God's plan. It is meant to be enjoyable. The problem is the bonds that you make with others that affect your marriage, the problems that result with unwanted or illigitement children, disease, abuse, etc...etc... If we followed the rules of the Bible we would have less problems such as all the $$$ crimes and abuse, addictions, ruined marriages...etc..etc...QUOTE]
If you are careful then there is nothing wrong with premarital --- and IMO, it's a good thing. I could not imagine anything more amusing then two virgins alone on their wedding night...talk about the blind leading the blind.
If a person is ignorant of careless enough to get someone pregnant on accident or catch an STD then they probably deserve it because condoms are not only inexpensive but also very easy to use
rylan1
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Originally Posted by Jmick
If you are careful then there is nothing wrong with premarital --- and IMO, it's a good thing. I could not imagine anything more amusing then two virgins alone on their wedding night...talk about the blind leading the blind.
If a person is ignorant of careless enough to get someone pregnant on accident or catch an STD then they probably deserve it because condoms are not only inexpensive but also very easy to use
I am not suprised you would have that opinion based on what you believe...(which is fine, you are entitled to your own opinion/beliefs) but not only is there the physical issues associated with it, but also the emotional ones. I'm sure you know some people that are damaged goods because of $$$. People devalue $$X and now its gotten to be that its emotionless, which is why people have 1 nighters...To them its all about feeling good for that moment, people don't take into account the issues that arise from this behavior and why they do it...I know if I had waited for my wedding night it would have been alot more to look forward to, ya it might not have happened exactly right, but it would have been much more exciting and rewarding...Just think about it... aside of 1 awkward moment that happens later in life as opposed to the elimination of STD and other issues such as crimes and that sort of thing if people held to this value... it would change society for the better. People who cheat, often cheat because they basically want a new partner, which come in to play because they are use to dating multiple people, and its hard to just settle on one partner. If they never had those experiences they would be less likely to cheat.
If you are careful then there is nothing wrong with premarital --- and IMO, it's a good thing. I could not imagine anything more amusing then two virgins alone on their wedding night...talk about the blind leading the blind.
If a person is ignorant of careless enough to get someone pregnant on accident or catch an STD then they probably deserve it because condoms are not only inexpensive but also very easy to use
I am not suprised you would have that opinion based on what you believe...(which is fine, you are entitled to your own opinion/beliefs) but not only is there the physical issues associated with it, but also the emotional ones. I'm sure you know some people that are damaged goods because of $$$. People devalue $$X and now its gotten to be that its emotionless, which is why people have 1 nighters...To them its all about feeling good for that moment, people don't take into account the issues that arise from this behavior and why they do it...I know if I had waited for my wedding night it would have been alot more to look forward to, ya it might not have happened exactly right, but it would have been much more exciting and rewarding...Just think about it... aside of 1 awkward moment that happens later in life as opposed to the elimination of STD and other issues such as crimes and that sort of thing if people held to this value... it would change society for the better. People who cheat, often cheat because they basically want a new partner, which come in to play because they are use to dating multiple people, and its hard to just settle on one partner. If they never had those experiences they would be less likely to cheat.
jmick
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Originally Posted by renogaw
oh i'll totally disagree with that one. i'd think that if someone only had one person their whole life that they would be more inclined to wonder what the grass is like in the neighbors yard...
I agree with this and the temptation would be much stronger to stray or try something new out.
I've been around a little and I know what is out there and because of that, I appreciate what I have even more!
oh i'll totally disagree with that one. i'd think that if someone only had one person their whole life that they would be more inclined to wonder what the grass is like in the neighbors yard...
I agree with this and the temptation would be much stronger to stray or try something new out.
I've been around a little and I know what is out there and because of that, I appreciate what I have even more!
socal57che
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Originally Posted by crimzy
Clown Boy, I have to admit that I have NO IDEA what you are saying in this thread. I can't even say that I disagree because I cannot follow your logic. The below post left me scratching my head.
Then there was this...
Where do you get these strange definitions and proclamations? I may be wrong but when I refer to adultery, I am referring to extramarital affairs or infidelity. However you seem to have a completely different idea of the term. What are you talking about when you refer to adultery?
By "They usually are from mental adultery..."
I think he was referring to the fact that adultery occurs in the heart regardless of physical contact as explained by Jesus in the New Testament. Christians see adultery as lust of the heart as well as the act itself.
Clown Boy, I have to admit that I have NO IDEA what you are saying in this thread. I can't even say that I disagree because I cannot follow your logic. The below post left me scratching my head.
Then there was this...
Where do you get these strange definitions and proclamations? I may be wrong but when I refer to adultery, I am referring to extramarital affairs or infidelity. However you seem to have a completely different idea of the term. What are you talking about when you refer to adultery?
By "They usually are from mental adultery..."
I think he was referring to the fact that adultery occurs in the heart regardless of physical contact as explained by Jesus in the New Testament. Christians see adultery as lust of the heart as well as the act itself.
renogaw
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Originally Posted by socal57che
By "They usually are from mental adultery..."
I think he was referring to the fact that adultery occurs in the heart regardless of physical contact as explained by Jesus in the New Testament. Christians see adultery as lust of the heart as well as the act itself.
oh goodness, if this didn't happen there woudn't be such a huge .. video... industry. yet another reason the bible needs to stop being printed...
By "They usually are from mental adultery..."
I think he was referring to the fact that adultery occurs in the heart regardless of physical contact as explained by Jesus in the New Testament. Christians see adultery as lust of the heart as well as the act itself.
oh goodness, if this didn't happen there woudn't be such a huge .. video... industry. yet another reason the bible needs to stop being printed...
renogaw
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Originally Posted by Clown Boy
I hope that's a joke...
actually, no. its not.
although, religeon has its place--the young need something to keep them in line, and the old need something to believe their life may come to something as they are dying. in the middle, religeon is just a way for people to lose money each sunday and to justify wars.
I hope that's a joke...
actually, no. its not.
although, religeon has its place--the young need something to keep them in line, and the old need something to believe their life may come to something as they are dying. in the middle, religeon is just a way for people to lose money each sunday and to justify wars.
rylan1
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Originally Posted by Jmick
I agree with this and the temptation would be much stronger to stray or try something new out.
I've been around a little and I know what is out there and because of that, I appreciate what I have even more!
i disagree, if you have the mindset that you are only to have 1, your appreciation would be much higher for that 1, $$x actually has very little to do with it and that is only a portion of a relationship so I'm sure your current relationship/ or marriage has little or nothing to do with that aspect of how much you appreciate her.
Would you agree that we are over exposed to $$x images on tv? Do you agree that this has negatively affected our morals and culture as a nation? I know these things are entertaining but they aren't healthy.
I agree with this and the temptation would be much stronger to stray or try something new out.
I've been around a little and I know what is out there and because of that, I appreciate what I have even more!
i disagree, if you have the mindset that you are only to have 1, your appreciation would be much higher for that 1, $$x actually has very little to do with it and that is only a portion of a relationship so I'm sure your current relationship/ or marriage has little or nothing to do with that aspect of how much you appreciate her.
Would you agree that we are over exposed to $$x images on tv? Do you agree that this has negatively affected our morals and culture as a nation? I know these things are entertaining but they aren't healthy.
crimzy
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Originally Posted by Rylan1
i disagree, if you have the mindset that you are only to have 1, your appreciation would be much higher for that 1, $$x actually has very little to do with it and that is only a portion of a relationship so I'm sure your current relationship/ or marriage has little or nothing to do with that aspect of how much you appreciate her.
Would you agree that we are over exposed to $$x images on tv? Do you agree that this has negatively affected our morals and culture as a nation? I know these things are entertaining but they aren't healthy.
I don't think that explicit content and images has a negative effect on adults. $ex is a very healthy and safe (and enjoyable) experience when a person is responsible.
Don't you think, however, that the person who has only had one partner in their lives will be more likely to stray as the monotony of everyday life takes the place of the excitement of the wedding night? Someone who has never been in an adult relationship, IMO, would be more likely to question his/her relationship once the honeymoon period ends.
i disagree, if you have the mindset that you are only to have 1, your appreciation would be much higher for that 1, $$x actually has very little to do with it and that is only a portion of a relationship so I'm sure your current relationship/ or marriage has little or nothing to do with that aspect of how much you appreciate her.
Would you agree that we are over exposed to $$x images on tv? Do you agree that this has negatively affected our morals and culture as a nation? I know these things are entertaining but they aren't healthy.
I don't think that explicit content and images has a negative effect on adults. $ex is a very healthy and safe (and enjoyable) experience when a person is responsible.
Don't you think, however, that the person who has only had one partner in their lives will be more likely to stray as the monotony of everyday life takes the place of the excitement of the wedding night? Someone who has never been in an adult relationship, IMO, would be more likely to question his/her relationship once the honeymoon period ends.
rylan1
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Originally Posted by crimzy
I don't think that explicit content and images has a negative effect on adults. $ex is a very healthy and safe (and enjoyable) experience when a person is responsible.
Don't you think, however, that the person who has only had one partner in their lives will be more likely to stray as the monotony of everyday life takes the place of the excitement of the wedding night? Someone who has never been in an adult relationship, IMO, would be more likely to question his/her relationship once the honeymoon period ends.
Adult relationships don't have to include $$$. But I bet there are statistics that support my views, as there are statistics that show what reasons people divorce. I would bet $$$$$ that people who marry as virgins have far less rate of divorce than those that don't. And don't say there are none because I know a few.... So the question is why do people stray, its probably different for men than women.
As far as the explicit images... I disagree totally..you've seen so many you are desensitized to it. Same as with murders, ^apes, etc...
I think that pedo'phila has some coorelation with explict images and many of the internet addictions and crimes that are going on today...
But internet addictions proves my point... they ruin marriages too. and they do exist.
I don't think that explicit content and images has a negative effect on adults. $ex is a very healthy and safe (and enjoyable) experience when a person is responsible.
Don't you think, however, that the person who has only had one partner in their lives will be more likely to stray as the monotony of everyday life takes the place of the excitement of the wedding night? Someone who has never been in an adult relationship, IMO, would be more likely to question his/her relationship once the honeymoon period ends.
Adult relationships don't have to include $$$. But I bet there are statistics that support my views, as there are statistics that show what reasons people divorce. I would bet $$$$$ that people who marry as virgins have far less rate of divorce than those that don't. And don't say there are none because I know a few.... So the question is why do people stray, its probably different for men than women.
As far as the explicit images... I disagree totally..you've seen so many you are desensitized to it. Same as with murders, ^apes, etc...
I think that pedo'phila has some coorelation with explict images and many of the internet addictions and crimes that are going on today...
But internet addictions proves my point... they ruin marriages too. and they do exist.
jmick
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Originally Posted by Rylan1
i disagree, if you have the mindset that you are only to have 1, your appreciation would be much higher for that 1, $$x actually has very little to do with it and that is only a portion of a relationship so I'm sure your current relationship/ or marriage has little or nothing to do with that aspect of how much you appreciate her.
Would you agree that we are over exposed to $$x images on tv? Do you agree that this has negatively affected our morals and culture as a nation? I know these things are entertaining but they aren't healthy.
I think that there are a lot of people in the world who are right for us and to think that there is only one is a little naive. I think that --- might not happen every day in most marriages but it is a strong bond that is in fact a big part of the marriage...trust me when that spark is gone it's all downhill.
I actually think we are overexposed to violence on or TV's and don't see --- as a big issue.
i disagree, if you have the mindset that you are only to have 1, your appreciation would be much higher for that 1, $$x actually has very little to do with it and that is only a portion of a relationship so I'm sure your current relationship/ or marriage has little or nothing to do with that aspect of how much you appreciate her.
Would you agree that we are over exposed to $$x images on tv? Do you agree that this has negatively affected our morals and culture as a nation? I know these things are entertaining but they aren't healthy.
I think that there are a lot of people in the world who are right for us and to think that there is only one is a little naive. I think that --- might not happen every day in most marriages but it is a strong bond that is in fact a big part of the marriage...trust me when that spark is gone it's all downhill.
I actually think we are overexposed to violence on or TV's and don't see --- as a big issue.
rylan1
Active Member
Originally Posted by Jmick
I think that there are a lot of people in the world who are right for us and to think that there is only one is a little naive. I think that --- might not happen every day in most marriages but it is a strong bond that is in fact a big part of the marriage...trust me when that spark is gone it's all downhill.
I actually think we are overexposed to violence on or TV's and don't see --- as a big issue.
$$$ is just as destructive as violence... look at tv... do you really want your kids watching this stuff...2nd look at the rise of $exual issues that our children are having... and that they are having it early and earlier...and all the games they have now with the wrist bands and stuff.
I am not saying that you have 1 soul mate or whatever, and you could have been with a number of different people...I agree w/ the spark thing, but there has to be other bonds because one day the spark may go out for a short period of time or a long period...relationships have cycles...
I think that there are a lot of people in the world who are right for us and to think that there is only one is a little naive. I think that --- might not happen every day in most marriages but it is a strong bond that is in fact a big part of the marriage...trust me when that spark is gone it's all downhill.
I actually think we are overexposed to violence on or TV's and don't see --- as a big issue.
$$$ is just as destructive as violence... look at tv... do you really want your kids watching this stuff...2nd look at the rise of $exual issues that our children are having... and that they are having it early and earlier...and all the games they have now with the wrist bands and stuff.
I am not saying that you have 1 soul mate or whatever, and you could have been with a number of different people...I agree w/ the spark thing, but there has to be other bonds because one day the spark may go out for a short period of time or a long period...relationships have cycles...
jmick
Active Member
Originally Posted by Rylan1
$$$ is just as destructive as violence... look at tv... do you really want your kids watching this stuff...2nd look at the rise of $exual issues that our children are having... and that they are having it early and earlier...and all the games they have now with the wrist bands and stuff.
I am not saying that you have 1 soul mate or whatever, and you could have been with a number of different people...I agree w/ the spark thing, but there has to be other bonds because one day the spark may go out for a short period of time or a long period...relationships have cycles...
Agreed, if your marriage is built on --- and little else you are doomed to failure because there will come a time when the passion begins to dwindle.
Don't they have a lot of --- and risque programs in Europe on the tv? I bet kids in America are exposed to less and are just as inclinded to play the games and engage in --- at an age most people would consider way to young. I blame all the steriods in milk...kids today seem to be rather developed...half kidding here.
$$$ is just as destructive as violence... look at tv... do you really want your kids watching this stuff...2nd look at the rise of $exual issues that our children are having... and that they are having it early and earlier...and all the games they have now with the wrist bands and stuff.
I am not saying that you have 1 soul mate or whatever, and you could have been with a number of different people...I agree w/ the spark thing, but there has to be other bonds because one day the spark may go out for a short period of time or a long period...relationships have cycles...
Agreed, if your marriage is built on --- and little else you are doomed to failure because there will come a time when the passion begins to dwindle.
Don't they have a lot of --- and risque programs in Europe on the tv? I bet kids in America are exposed to less and are just as inclinded to play the games and engage in --- at an age most people would consider way to young. I blame all the steriods in milk...kids today seem to be rather developed...half kidding here.