Snake's Official 110g Build Thread

acrylic51

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Originally Posted by SnakeBlitz33 http:///t/392103/snakes-official-110g-build-thread#post_3480264
So, i need help with a decision:
Kalkwasser stirrer and calcium reactor with pH probe controlled by the profilux 2
Or
Balling method with the triple automatic dosers controlled with the profilux 2 (with the probes)
Decisions, decisions.
A ca reactor adds not only ca and alk, but can also add mg and trace elements but does somewhat decrease pH because of the co2. Kalkwasser reactor adds ca and alk to the tank and also increases pH.
Balling method only doses three main parts and no trace. I could add some Kent's essentials to make up the trace in between water changes.
I'm still doing research in this area myself and not entirely sure which method I'll go, but if you like I can shoot you some good plans if you want to build your own Ca reactor.....I started mine a long time ago, but haven't had time to finish it......
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Originally Posted by SnakeBlitz33
http:///t/392103/snakes-official-110g-build-thread#post_3479989
Ah, isn't this exciting? A new reef tank being born? I talked to my wife about setting up the old 110g tank as soon as she starts teaching... YES... TEACHING! She just got a job! WOOT WOOT. Anyways - now that we will be making more money, I get to have a bigger tank.
She doesn't start teaching till August and I have no idea when I can get some financial backing for it - but I know for a fact that I am going to get it set up and running as soon as possible.
Therefore, here are a few pics of the tank and something I made in Google Sketchup. Please, realize that I have only had the program and toyed around with it for the last two days and no more.
Breakdown:
110g show tank
Custom 20g sump
Bean-Animal overflow
10g refugium with 4" deep sand bed, live rock rubble and chaetomorpha algae
Octopus cone skimmer (not decided which one yet)
Instant Ocean salt
Used Calcium Reactor
Water container for extra water volume and used for water changes.
Mag 9 return pump
UAS (Underwater/Upflow Algae Scrubber on the side of the refugium
2x200w heaters - titanium
Profilux 2 controller
Either a DIY LED fixture or just wait to buy a couple of those chinese led fixtures. :p
Auto Top Off unit - also has float valve on the RO Reservoir to continuously top it off. No more worrying about putting water in the tank. :D
2 Vortech MP40s
2" sand bed with course sand (Keeps it from blowing around with those vortechs)
Stand:
Peninsula style stand
Door open light
5 fans on Temp controller

Floating wooden top
Sealed bottom
36" tall
Side cabinet is 7'6" tall.
Electrical panel on switches to easily turn off components that are not connected to the Profilux 2 controller.
Polyurethaned ******** and exterior.
Stocklist:
Suggestions?
I'm thinking about this:
Mimic tang
Yellow tang
bi color blennie
yellow and black chromis (schooling)
Oscellaris pair
mandarin dragonet
Wrasse of some sort
Yup - that's pretty much it. Or - if I can save a little money I might be able to buy some of the cool fish on Divers Den. :D
Corals:
Lots of SPS at the top of the tank
LPS like hammers, frogspawn and acans in the middle
Zoas, green star polyps, tube anemone, colt/kenya/nepthea, orange sun coral at bottom level.
Yeah, kind of a mixed tank. I know how some people say don't mix SPS with other types of corals, but I have done this successfully with a lot of carbon. lol
Inverts:
Peppermint shrimp 2-3
Cleaner shrimp pair
cucumber
conch
cleaner clams
nassarious snails
zebra snails
nerite snails
turbo snails
I'd ditch the Yellow and swap another tang in it's place.....Just my .02
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Originally Posted by SnakeBlitz33 http:///t/392103/snakes-official-110g-build-thread#post_3479995

If you notice, I already put in the beananimal overflow in the background, but I am going to tweak it some. On both ends, I'm going to come in with it a little bit so that I can fit a couple of return pipes. OR, I could spend the extra money and buy a couple of sea swirls. I don't know if they are worth the money. Anyone?
Keep in mind, I've only been playing with google Sketchup for two days - so go lightly on me.
Thoughts or comments on the stand?
Looks very good......I'd paint the side wall with the overflow on black and use black acrylic for my overflow box.....Shouldn't stand out much or detract from the appearance. 1 1/2" bulkheads sched 80 style.....
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Originally Posted by SnakeBlitz33 http:///t/392103/snakes-official-110g-build-thread#post_3480007
Yeah, like I said in the beginning - it's going to be a long road and a slow build. Probably not as long as 2Quills though. lol I figure I might have to build the stand in place, or build it in two pieces - the canopy and top cabinet for one and then the lower cabinet. That way I don't have to cut the stand to get it out of the next apartment we move into before we get a house.
I'd definitely build in several pieces.....Makes everything a lot easier, but at times can really complicate things, but would be easier to move and modify things if needed.
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Originally Posted by SnakeBlitz33 http:///t/392103/snakes-official-110g-build-thread#post_3480162
Then again, i could build the stand 24" wide and make room for a ten gallon tank that is baffled and contains calcium, alkalinity and magnesium and use my profilux 2 controller for automatic dosing using the balling method. On one end have a 10g tank for the dosing and on the other have a water reservoir for an auto top off unit.
Soo many possibilities at this point. Ill have plenty of time to think about it. Thoughts? Comments? Suggestions?
I'd opt for a wider stand as you guys are thinking.......You can easily stuff a 55 under the 110, and probably could stick pretty close to your original dimensions with a little creativity in the design of the top of the stand. And in all honesty if you would use torsion panels in conjunction with pocket holes it should be plenty strong enough that you could eliminate any need for a center brace. All comes down to how you want to build the stand, but a center support definitely isn't needed.
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Originally Posted by SnakeBlitz33
http:///t/392103/snakes-official-110g-build-thread#post_3480172
The sump will have mechanical filtration on one side, the return in the middle and a nice sized fuge area on the other end. Im going to use a small powerheAd to pump water to the fuge. The return plumbing will be ran up the cabinet side and will be split three ways. First split is the water change container which will add an extra 25g to the system. The second and third split will put two returns into the tank.
I remember you mentioned about shortening your overflow box to accommodate your returns or Vortech placement......Very good idea IMO. Actually if your doing the drilling, why not make the tank as sleek and clean as possible and drill your returns in that panel and use loc line to direct your flow.....I'm rather anal with attention to detail at times, and seeing pipes up and over or white PVC inside the DT automatically draws my attention away from the inhabitants for whatever reason.....It's attention to little details that sets tanks apart again IMO.....
 

acrylic51

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Originally Posted by Mr. Limpid http:///t/392103/snakes-official-110g-build-thread#post_3480171
Looks good Seth, aways like a tank you can see from many sides. Is the plan to run the returns up and over to the opposite side and the power head on the covered side?
Seth a good point Mr. Limpid has brought up......With running your returns up and across the top of the tank and drop them down into the DT from above it would make your flow more affective this way.......Over in my build thread that is long like Corey's I had brought over several links and have had extensive discussions with some of the masters as far as flow, and you would be utilizing things more efficiently having your returns firing towards your overflow box, whereas your Vortechs are pushing across from the opposite end of the tank; lower in the tank towards your returns, and in turn the detritus being kick up and back towards the overflow box where it can be effectively removed or kept suspended till it can be removed.......
 

snakeblitz33

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Thanks Shawn. Could you send me those diy plans for that calcium reactor?
Yeah, im thinking now that i will make my returns go up and over the side panel and stretch to the viewable side and blow accross the water. It will definately get some gunk out of the system.
I think i will go for 24" wide and maybe use a 40g breeder tank as a sump instead of a 55g. 40g breeders are sold for a dollar a gallon at a big box store four times a year. Save a little room in the stand and a little money.
Torsion panels? Your saying i could build it with a minimal amount of 2x4s?
I think two vortech mp40s will be enough flow if i have a strong enough return pump. Remember, the return pump will supply water to the tank and the water change system. What size return pump? I only ask this because i have a mag9 already. I think it will be enough for it but i need a second opinion to verify my line of thought.
If i could build a ca reactor for cheaper than buying one, i will do it. But, if it turns out to be more, ill just buy a commercial brand.
 

acrylic51

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I will get you the plans on the Ca reactor...also shoot some info on torsion panels. Even using a combination of 2x6's and torsion panels would eliminate the need for a center brace.
 

snakeblitz33

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Are you talking about something like this?

Using a 2x6 frame and 2x4 torsions and a 1" top of plywood will be enough to hold up a 110g tank? If so, then I am all for it. My bottom stand will be 6' long 2' wide and 3' tall. 2'x2' side cabinet space will be nice.
I've been thinking... What if I add a small 10g refugium above the water change container? I could easily have the return pump going to the display tank, and then a little higher to put water in the refugium, where i can be overflowed into the water change container. Or, I can use it as a really deep sandbed tank
decisions, decisions.
 

acrylic51

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Sorry for the slow response Seth....The torsion panel design is something similar to what you posted. When doing a torsion panel you would have your outer plywood skin as shown, but you would use something on the lines of 1" lumber as your webbing or skeleton laid flat and that would be sandwiched between another layer of plywood skin. Super strong, takes up less room than traditional framing. I'd have to look at the calculator on the other site, but correct using a 2x6 as your main beam. Even a laminated beam would work as well........
Why wouldn't you want to feed your fuge the dirtiest water possible......Again I'm thinking out loud here.....Not saying you want tons of uneaten food dumped into your fuge, but sort of the same principle you want to feed your skimmer the dirtiest water possible correct.........
 

snakeblitz33

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The reason I have a pump in the return chamber for the fuge (as part of the initial design) was because I don't know if you can modify the beananimal output to split in two - one going to a mechanical filter and the other going to the refugium. So far, I have not come across a single person who has split their beananimal overflow in two.

Yeah, I figured that it would also have a plywood top and it would be screwed down on bottom of it. I think that would be extremely strong.
As a side note, I am thinking about trying out an upflow algae scrubber on the new system.
 

snakeblitz33

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new aquarium stand design.
The recessed part in the front is for the controller and a few outlets and switches. I also have a little room at the bottom to stash fish foods, chemicals, test kit stuff etc. It will have a door.
I still have the fans in all the right spots.
I added a 40g breeder sump on the bottom. I really like the baffle design. I can work with that.
Being 24" means I can stuff more equipment underneath the tank. I have a place where I can hang up some things.
In the back I have room for a calcium reactor and CO2 bottle and towards the front I have room for an extra 10g auto top off reservoir.
What you can't see in this pic is that the canopy is also built 4" out to match the stand. This extra room gives me a little space to stash fish foods, turkey baster, and whatever else that I can think of.
I will draw in all of the doors when I get a chance. right now I'm just trying to get an idea for the layout and get some measurements.
Acrylic - Would it be ok to split the top torsion frame about 2' from the side and extend the 2x6" wood all the way down to the 6'4" mark? Or, do you think I need to cut holes for the beananimal design and the return pump hole in the torsion frame? Four holes wouldn't affect it's integrity, would it?
I have sooo much storage and room underneath the tank. I love it.
 

snakeblitz33

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So, I have got a little money together. Who thinks I should go ahead and buy a drill bit and cut four holes in the tank and install the glass?
So, the question arises... what size bulkheads should I go with?I'm thinking 1". From what I have read, at max a 1" siphon can drain 900gph. That's way more then I need though.
I'm thinking that my Mag9 isn't going to be powerful enough to supply water to not only the tank but also to the water change reservoir. Think I should go with a Mag12 or a Mag 18? 7foot of horizontal pipe and 5ft of verticle pipe. I'll try to find the answer later.
 

novahobbies

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Buy the drill bit!
I think the Mag 12 should do you just fine. You could go with the 18 and crank it down, but you'd just be adding extra heat to the system for no real reason.
 

snakeblitz33

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Yeah, that's what I am thinking too. Maybe I could sell my Mag 9.5 and get some money to go towards a Mag 12.
Every week that I work I get closer and closer to start setting everything up.
My current fish tank has become a FOWLR with TONS of coralline algae. I might have close to 70 pounds of live rock in the system total now. lol So, I have that and a little more live rock in long term storage that I can use. Then I also have some base rock to make some foundation.
 

novahobbies

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Sounds like you've definitely got most of the rock covered. I'm a little jealous -- I wasn't able to store any of my rock as "live" when I broke down the tank. I kept it all, but it's dry base rock now. My plan was to re-seed it with one good 5 to 8 lb piece of live rock when we're ready to roll, but coralline can take so long to establish in new systems.
I like the 40g breeder you're going to use as a sump. That will definitely give you plenty of filtration power, and room to upgrade equipment if you need it.
 

snakeblitz33

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So, since my bike accident i have to buy a new bike and that will set me back from getting the drill bit and bulkheads for now. But its ok. I have to deal with my immediate needs anyways.
 

acrylic51

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Bike accident.....What happened Seth......You must be sipping the same "Kool Aid" I've been drinking......Hope your ok!!!!!
What size bits do you need to drill the tank......
 

snakeblitz33

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I'm using 1" bulkheads and I looked it up and it looks like I'm going to need a 1 3/4" hole saw.
Where I can buy one online is for $15 and if I add 3 bulkheads I can get free shipping. So... I'll just wait a few more weeks to order anything. :D
 

snakeblitz33

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My reason for using 1" bulkheads is that at max a 1" siphon can drain a maximum of 900gph and I know I'm not going to come anywhere close to that max. So, with the gate valve on the siphon line I should be able to adjust it pretty well and have the capacity to drain more if needed.
 

snakeblitz33

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Well, I have a mag 9, but I don't feel like that is adequate enough to split two ways. So, I'm looking at a mag 12 to increase the amount of flow into the display tank mainly, and then push 35-50gph through my water change container. I think a Mag 12 should be big enough to run the system.
 

snakeblitz33

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So, i love barebottom tanks for ease of maintenance. Just siphon out the detritus and carry on. Lol. I was thinking that i probably want to go with some course grain sand this time around. It does look natural and i am prepared to maintain it. 1/2" to 1" of sand most likely.
For the diy calcium reactor, can i use a mag 3 pump? I know its a little more than i need, but it can be operated externally. Would there be a problem if i attached a relief valve to it to cut down on the flow some or am i pipe dreaming?
 
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