I am very much involved in my kid's lives, but I am so not the cool parent. I am not their "friend", I am their teacher, instructor, example, etc. But I do remember when I was a teen, and I do not try to raise my kids by my mistakes, I will let them make their own but they will be monitered. The stove example... I told my son "NO, HOT", Then I put my hand on the burner (without him looking) and I turned it on high, when it got to hot for me to touch, I turned it off and acted like I was not watching him and lo & behold... His hand went straight for it. I knew it was hot but he didn't believe me, and he found out for himself, BUT he was being monitored! You can only educate your children, but the final decision will be theirs to make. (Like Eve with that apple thing)