Squidd I'm Almost Ready To Move To The Basement!!

[lubeck]

Are you recommending to utilize the overflow for draining only?
If so, I will do that if it will better the flow of the tank. I would'nt think it would be that difficult. I would just know what hardware was needed.... right?
I will use my seios and mag 9.5 for the C/L for now until I can upgrade the 9.5 to a 18?
So I would need the Mag 24 for the sump/fuge. Right?
And an 18 for the C/L? Or..... you said they don't do well out of water, leaky, right?

 

[squidd]

You tell me...do you like the Seios or do you want to get them out of there...?
If you want them out, I'd suggest a 2000 gph "external" pump and 4 outlet C/L and the 800 or so from a Mag 18 in the sump (or 24 depending on how we workout the elbows and bends to get to tank...)
But you can also work this in stages...the OTT C/L shown in pic #13 with Mag9, and the seios for tank flow for now...and work the bugs out of the sump and overflow with an 18 (or 24) and then later upgrade CL to bigger pump and flow director like a OceanMotions 4 way...down the road...

 

[lubeck]

That sounds like a plan! I don't really like the seios, this is the THIRD TIME they have DESTROYED MY DSB. My amonia levels spiked to .5. The stupid suction cups keep coming undone. Also, on one of them, if I unplug it and plug it back in, I have to manually start the propeller to get going. I have had alot of issues with them. Also, my turbo snails love to go behind them and pop them off. Boooo..
I plan on working in stages for now. I like the idea of the OceanMotions too.
Well I am waiting on tax check, should be here any day now. I can't wait. Still have some thiings to work out though.

 

[lubeck]

Originally Posted by Squidd
You tell me...do you like the Seios or do you want to get them out of there...?
If you want them out, I'd suggest a 2000 gph "external" pump and 4 outlet C/L and the 800 or so from a Mag 18 in the sump (or 24 depending on how we workout the elbows and bends to get to tank...)
One of the reasons for moving down to the basement is less noise. So do you recommend a 2000gph external pump that would'nt make too much noise or at the least not make as much noise as the mag 9.5 and 150 seaclone skimmer and my 2 fans make now?
But you can also work this in stages...the OTT C/L shown in pic #13 with Mag9, and the seios for tank flow for now...and work the bugs out of the sump and overflow with an 18 (or 24) and then later upgrade CL to bigger pump and flow director like a OceanMotions 4 way...down the road...
Tell me if this sounds good, Once I get all teh "stages" complete, I could use the mag 9.5 to pump my water changes in and out of the sump area. What do think? Run stationary spa flex tubing up and around my rafters in teh basement to the sump pump well. Then Run seperate tubing for the Fresh salt water mix from my Rubbermaid toats (which is where my ro/di unit is and also my sump pump).

 

[squidd]

Can always find a use for an "extra" pump...

 

[lubeck]

Thats right!
I just got off the phone, new $120 for a 75 gallon 48-18-21.
I am waiting for a call on a used 75gallon and i believe same dimentions.

 

[lubeck]

Squidd, its a go!!!! I am ordering the 75gallon 48x18x21. also ordering the mag 24 its only 20 bucks more than the 18. It should be here by next Monday.
What else should I get?
Should i wait till the pump and tank gets here or could I start purchasing the flex tubing and assembling the plumbing?
this is what i was thinking
on the basis of using BOTH the drain 1" and 3/4" return for draining only, I would need;
10 ft flex tube for 1"; Spa flex tubing will be 1"
10ft flex tube for 3/4"; Spa flex tubing will be 3/4", right?
14 ft flex tubing for over the top return, can i still use my exsisting return spray nozzle? (size)
3 90's
3 45's
1 check valves; for return
I was think of using the 3/4" drain line to the refuge side and the 1" drain line into the sump/skimmer how does that sound? I should'nt need valves for the fuge side, right?
I need 5 baffles? All of them should be the same height and width, right? I will need help once ACTUALL size of plumbing is determined of WHERE the baffles will be located in the the sump/fuge I have a good idea but not totally sure.
1 tube of 100% silicone.
I want the fuge to be almost half the size of the tank, sooo, lets say 22inces x 18 and I want a 6 inch DSB with Live Rock and eventually get some cheato. So i will need about 50 lbs of Sand and want to get another 100#'s of Live Rock. The live rock will have to be in stages though.$$$
I want to get, and plan on getting the ASM3 but do not have the funds yet.
So what am I missing?
What can i start working on until my tank and pump get here?
Thanks

 

[squidd]

Originally Posted by Lubeck
Squidd, its a go!!!! I am ordering the 75gallon 48x18x21. also ordering the mag 24 its only 20 bucks more than the 18. It should be here by next Monday.
What else should I get?
Should i wait till the pump and tank gets here or could I start purchasing the flex tubing and assembling the plumbing?
sure...You can start ordering collecting stuff to use... might as well get the first 2 or 3 trips to the hdwr store out of the way...(usually takes 6-8 reconnaissance trips to get the job done..

this is what i was thinking
on the basis of using BOTH the drain 1" and 3/4" return for draining only, I would need;
10 ft flex tube for 1"; Spa flex tubing will be 1"
10ft flex tube for 3/4"; Spa flex tubing will be 3/4", right?Id of Spa Flex matchs ID of bulkhead..
14 ft flex tubing for over the top return, can i still use my exsisting return spray nozzle? (size)What is your existing "spray nozzel"...??
3 90's
3 45's
1 check valves; for return
I was think of using the 3/4" drain line to the refuge side and the 1" drain line into the sump/skimmer how does that sound? I should'nt need valves for the fuge side, right?
300gph to fuge and 600 gph to sump...sounds about right... probably should put ballvalves on each drain though...in case there are any imbalances we need to correct...
I need 5 baffles? All of them should be the same height and width, right?No...they will vary according to water levels required of each chamber
I will need help once ACTUALL size of plumbing is determined of WHERE the baffles will be located in the the sump/fuge I have a good idea but not totally sure.
1 tube of 100% silicone.
I want the fuge to be almost half the size of the tank, sooo, lets say 22inces x 18 and I want a 6 inch DSB with Live Rock and eventually get some cheato. So i will need about 50 lbs of Sand and want to get another 100#'s of Live Rock. The live rock will have to be in stages though.$$$
I want to get, and plan on getting the ASM3 but do not have the funds yet.
.. Skip the rock in the fuge...(make sure you have enough in your tank) and spend the money on the better skimmer...
So what am I missing? Lights
What can i start working on until my tank and pump get here? Patients...

Thanks
.

 

[sonicboom1]

just tagging along..since im doing the same moving stuff as you, we can help and share info, and squidd helped both of us ha

Got my RO/DI unit in, pumps come tomorrow, skimmer next day, overflow day after, tank day after haha

 

[lubeck]

Squidd I think I messed up
I went to the hardware store and got a 1" return line set up. Is that ok or do I need 1-3/4" for the return line
I decided to go all PVC piping. I am going to post a picture once my camera charges.

 

[sonicboom1]

yeah id like to see what you have done so far, my thread below shows what I have been recieving, keep up the work!

 

[squidd]

on the basis of using BOTH the drain 1" and 3/4" return for draining only, I would need;
10 ft flex tube for 1"; Spa flex tubing will be 1"
10ft flex tube for 3/4"; Spa flex tubing will be 3/4", right?Id of Spa Flex matchs ID of bulkhead..
14 ft flex tubing for over the top return, can i still use my exsisting return spray nozzle? (size)What is your existing "spray nozzel"...??
3 90's
3 45's
1 check valves; for return
I was think of using the 3/4" drain line to the refuge side and the 1" drain line into the sump/skimmer how does that sound? I should'nt need valves for the fuge side, right?
300gph to fuge and 600 gph to sump...sounds about right... probably should put ballvalves on each drain though...in case there are any imbalances we need to correct...
No, you got it right in the thread up above...two seperate drains...3/4" and 1"....

 

[lubeck]

I understand the drain lines.
The return line, over the tank return line, what size? I bought 1" for the return, is that right?

 

[lubeck]

These pics are the
1" drain line which is on the left hand side: It has 5-90's and 1-45. The measurments are cut very long but this is from the bulk head to the skimmer chamber. I don't know what to use to connect the 1" PVC to the bulkhead underneath my tank. It is not threaded but has some grooves in it
what should I use to connect the 1" bulkhead fitting from my overflow to the 1" PVC pipe?
The 3/4" drain pipe is on the right side of the pic and will drain into the right side of the tank (fuge). I still need to drill holes in the 45's which will be submerged 1-2 inches below the water level. Right?
I think I answered my question from the above post. The return line (which will be the Mag 24) will be a 1" line. Right? Also, I was hoping to use two spray valves for the return water. Do they sell 1" spray nozzles, that have two heads???
The pics are not that great becuase of the lenght, it was hard to get close ups.

 

[lubeck]

Squidd,
Tell me if this sounds right.
For the over the top return, which will be a 1" PVC pipe. When the 1" pipe reaches level with the top of the tank, if I add a 1" slip 90 with a 3/4" ID threaded to fit the first pic of Loc Line, then add a 3/4" T adapter with 6" of Loc Line going in seperate directions with a 3/4" ID 3" spray nozzle on each end.
I will plumb this right inside my overflow box and run the two Lock Line nozzles out the sides of the overflow. Just like my current nozzle is now, but splitting it and running it out of both sides.
Sorry if this doesn't make sense, but will it Work???

 

[lubeck]

i don't know if this is right

 

[lubeck]

I can't figure out how to connect the bulkheads to the PVC piping.

 

[lubeck]

Squidd,
Me and my buddy just got this stand done for the refugium
6'x24"x32" tall
what do you think
Still don;t know how to connect the bulkheads to the PVC

 

[lubeck]

Squidd,
Getting backed up with questions, Ha ha!
I have NO lighting with 20k daylight and 20k blue light would that be sufficient for the fuge.
I could also, but don't want to, break down my 4-65watt Current 24hours PC unit. to go over the fuge.
Will the NO be sufficient?

 

[squidd]

Originally Posted by Lubeck
Squidd I think I messed up
I went to the hardware store and got a 1" return line set up. Is that ok or do I need 1-3/4" for the return line
I decided to go all PVC piping. I am going to post a picture once my camera charges.
1 1/4" wil bring the Mag 24 to 834gph, but we need to count "actual" number of elbows and pipe...Let's see the pics...