Starting up my 125G

sparty059

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Okie Dokie. I wasn't sure if I had to seed it or if I can leave it be. So I will let it go the all na-tu-raaal way!
 

sparty059

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I don't know what I was planning. I never saw anything regarding seed before I just read about it one time and it was always in the back of my head. I didn't know if I had to buy it from like a bag, or bottle, or what. I'm glad I don't have to do that though.
 

2quills

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I'd just try to pick a few really nice pieces of rock with some good coralline to help seed the rest of the tank. I'd probably also through some smaller pieces into your fuge. When you get close to being done cycleing you could see your system with some pods to help spur things along, just dump them into your fuge.
 

sparty059

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Ok, so I started to dump water into my tank tonight and have come across what I think might be a bit of a problem... So my skimmer is in the tank, and I noticed that the pump will bring the water in... and the output will let the water out in the same area that the water came in...
 

 
So in this case, won't it just have the dirty water come in... filter, then be put back into the bad water? Should I put a tube on the output of the skimmer to get it to go directly to the top of the baffle? Or am I missing the whole concept of how the skimmer is supposed to work and this layout will work?
 

sparty059

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*bump*
 
Anyone have an idea? I'd like to know before I add too much water that will make it a task to work around. Again my question is:
 
If the water is being cleaned and then dumped into the same area won't it just get dirty again and then go over the baffle? Should I run a 2 or 3 inch tube that will allow the water to get over the top of the baffle?
 
View picture above for explanation.
 

meowzer

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OK....I have the external skimmer, BUT....the water from my DT enters into one section.....the pump brings it out to the skimmer....and the skimmer output is in the same section as the water that comes from the DT.
 
SO....IMO you are fine LOL..
 

sparty059

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Ok. I was looking around for many video's to see how skimmers were placed and found that many of them had above the baffle so I started to get concerned... but if it's good as is then I'll stick with it. Yesterday I started to fill water over the O/F and everything seemed to be working properly. I still have a bit more left to do until I find that happy medium spot in between not enough water and too much water but it's getting there! It's very VERY close to being perfect though and I did just as you suggested... I added water waited for the pump to be submerged turned it on waited to see if it was going to flow properly and of course I had too little so I continued to add and so on... I currently have the refugium blocked off since I still have to add my live sand to that tank, which I'm making the refugium my very last priority. All in all though, I feel as though I'm almost there. I also have decided that tonight or tomorrow I will be going to my LFS to buy a magnet cleaner... I see everyone with one of those and it seems much better than having to stick a scraper in there every other day to clean off the glass... they're just so expensive for such a small item I've been holding off, but can not any longer!
 

meowzer

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LOL...so glad that everything is coming together for you. YUP the mag floats are pricey....but IMO worth every penny.
 
Have you still been testing the water? What are your levels at??
 

sparty059

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Haven't tested since... I've been in and out of the house recently and just didn't have a chance. I'm guessing it has to be getting pretty close to being ready though wouldn't you think?
 

sparty059

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Touché. I'll test it out tonight, but not in any rush since I don't plan on getting fish until start of Nov.
 

sparty059

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Ok, so I have filled up my tank and my sump... it has about 1 1/2 inches of gap from over flowing. All water runs smoothly, but I have a few concerns. I'd like to see if anyone can help answer these concerns of mine:
 
#1 - When I have the return pump running it seems as though my water level keeps rising... not much, but about a cm after 10 or 15 minutes... I turn it off eventually because I fear it will overflow the actual DT... is this possible and a cause for concern or will it stay level at a specific point?
 
#2 - As I said I've tested the "What if" situation... being what if the power were to go out. Water drains from the pipes and the overflow as well as drains down the return pipe from the DT until it reaches close to the center of the return heads... after that, I can't see any further drain that is noticable to the eye. Will it slowly continue to drain until the return heads are no longer submerged at all, or will it stop once air is introduced into the pipe? Again, the heads are on a pipe that goes directly down into the sump, so I was under the impression that water will drain (as gravity will force it to) until the heads no longer have any contact with water.
 
Aside from that, everything else seems to be working... the skimmer is another small concern though... it only fills up half way and doesn't have any foam reaching the canister. Should I leave it running for a few hours and it will eventually make it's way up there or am I doing something wrong with this?
 
Thank you all for your help... the sooner you can respond to questions 1 and 2 the sooner I can get to sleep.
 

meowzer

Moderator
#1....the water in the sump is rising????
 
#2. no clue

 
protein skimmer.....some take time to break in....I would leave it running
 

2quills

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Sounds like you're getting a little to much water being pumped into the display and not enough draining out. Have you opened up your fuge side yet? Also, this is why you installed the bleeder line on the return line (the one that goes back into the sump)...you can open up that valve and adjust how much is going back to the display by letting some of that water re-circulate if you have to. But I'd like to see what happens once you open up the fuge side a little bit.
 
Yes, water will continue to drain untill the return heads have no more contact with the water. This is why you can either adjust your heads closer to the surface or drill a hole in your return line just below the waters surface (which will introduce air into the line after the pump is shut off) in the display to minimize the backflow. We discussed this in great detail on your old thread...were you not taking notes???
 

sparty059

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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///forum/thread/379766/starting-up-my-125g/120#post_3309726
Sounds like you're getting a little to much water being pumped into the display and not enough draining out. Have you opened up your fuge side yet? Also, this is why you installed the bleeder line on the return line (the one that goes back into the sump...you can open up that valve and adjust how much is going back to the display by letting some of that water re-circulate if you have to. But I'd like to see what happens once you open up the fuge side a little bit.
 
Yes, water will continue to drain untill the return heads have no more contact with the water. This is why you can either adjust your heads closer to the surface or drill a hole in your return line just below the waters surface in the display to minimize the backflow. We discussed this in great detail on your old thread...were you not taking notes???
I didn't open the fuge side yet but I did adjust the valve you're talking about. I actually had to because the return pump started to pump out more water that was in the sump and would occasionally get a little funnel going into the pump which would cause it to catch some air in the pump. But I adjusted the valve to where it's between 1/2 and 3/4 open... that seemed to work the best.
 
No, no, no... I did! haha, I promise. I just didn't really comprehend it until just now. I kind of see what you're saying at this point. The pipe is in the O/F though... should I drill a hole in the pipe at the same level the top of the O/F pipe is at? Right now I have the heads pointed to the top of the tank with no water touching it... so I'm hoping no water drains.
 
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