sump/fuge size

renogaw

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luckily it looks though that yours is going under a nonworking tank. mine's up and running so i have to have it PERFECT or i'm screwed. i can't dryfit it :(
 

larryndana

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oh wow, didn't even think about that.
the baffles in the fuge area, why is the one on the left lower. can't remember if someone asked that or not.
 

renogaw

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so the water actually flows through the chaeto, instead of over it. i'm thinking the eggcrate just to keep the chaeto in the fuge area.
 
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fishwilly1

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Check Out The Newer Way Of Doing Them With The Flow Thru Baffles Like On Joncat24's Fuge, Makes Alot Simpler To Add Anything At Anytime And Is Adjustable To Meet Your Media Needs. Here Is A Pic Of Mine Which Was Our First Try, Since We Have 3 Other Tanks Running With Them And Alot Of Success.
 

sign guy

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Originally Posted by renogaw
to totally plagerize your pic signguy, i'll probably end up doing this one. I'm assuming flow is left to right? would the skimmer go in the intake compartment, and where would the rubble rock go?
the rubble rock goes in with the sand and chato or the yellow area in the diagam. Yes the flow goes from left to right and the skimmer needs to be on the left side of the pic as well. that way you do not skimm your copods and trash dose not enter your fuge
 

sign guy

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Originally Posted by renogaw
i think the reason the left baffle is so low is to let the chaeto get a good flow of water over it. the water level will get up to the top of the right baffle. I'm thinking about putting eggcrate next to the baffle on the left to keep anything in there as well.the baffle is lower so the water will create a tumble efect
so i need to figure out how tall my insump skimmer is, and make sure my first baffle is low enough for the opening. I was thinking about making a drip filter with some bio balls from my wet/dry
(they actually have life thriving in them, go figure), then the water goes into a chamber with the skimmer in it, then into the DSB and chaeto, then into rubble rock (pod breeding, unless rubble rock goes with the dsb) and then pumped out. would this work?
im abig fan of bio balls but must remind you to clean your bio balls often so it dose not create a nitrate factory
 

sign guy

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Originally Posted by renogaw
any chance of a closeup to those baffles, and what is the long tube on the side?
i second that
 

renogaw

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Originally Posted by sign guy
im abig fan of bio balls but must remind you to clean your bio balls often so it dose not create a nitrate factory


i cleaned mine a little over a month ago and actually found colonies of pods living in them, along with some spongy stringy substance. i figure i've had some great luck with them and wanted to implement them into the design.
how does my design look btw? i got the tank today, and will be doing some measurements to figure out the best way of doing this :) i have one shot and want to make sure its dead on.
 

sign guy

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looks good but id move your rubble pock in with the chato the pods will live stronger with all elements. they can burrow in the sand and hide in the chato
 

larryndana

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Originally Posted by sign guy
looks good but id move your rubble pock in with the chato the pods will live stronger with all elements. they can burrow in the sand and hide in the chato
good idea. :thinking:
:happyfish
 

renogaw

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got the tank last night. but even better: i found the name of a glass cutter!!
its odd enough going up to the grocery store and asking for a couple clams for the tank... i wonder what this guy is going to think.
 

renogaw

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well, i'm drawing it out, and i don't think i have enough room to put the bio balls in. I *may* be able to do something still, but may scratch the bio balls for now.
baffle heights are a little confusing as well. I'm thinking that when looking at the two sets of three baffles, the first of the three pieces of glass have to be the same height correct? that will set the height of my fuge water, and the over all water height of the sump?
my insump skimmer has an outlet height of about 9", maybe 10". I guess i have to put it on a pedestal of some sort to make it heigher than my water height?
 

larryndana

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yeah, it looks as if you have 4 baffles that are the same and two that are different sizes.
have you thought about putting some teeth on the top of your baffles in your fuge area to keep snails or crabs or whatever might want to jump over your baffles into another section.
another thing, what about a section to put carbon or something like that. i going to make a section like that. i was going to spread two baffles apart about 3 inches, but may do it just 2 inches. i'm gonna get some short half inch strips of glass and silicone them to the sides of the baffles so i can put some egg crate on top if them. hope this makes sense.
 

larryndana

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see the space on the skimmer side. now that i think about it, the baffles inbeteen my fuge on both sides....i'm going to space them two inches and put some egg crate there, then i can put sponges or bioballs or carbon or whatever on either side. also prevents a way of any snails or whatever to move out from the fuge area.
 

reefkprz

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looks like youre on the right track whatever you do dont corner angle your baffles LIke I did on my sump while it looked cool it just doesnt make enough usable space in the first chamber
 

renogaw

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I'm starting to think about taking the first area and splitting it in half to give 6"x8" to the bio balls and 6x8" to the skimmer. The way i have carbon now is in a bag under my bio balls, that's where i have a bag with some phosphate remover as well. I don't know if i'll still have to do that or not though.
my drawing (on paper) has 6" for the pump return, 1" between baffles, 12" sand bed, 1" between baffles, then 8" to play with on the intake. I have a remora skimmer, which is about 5 or 6" wide, but has a side discharge. I'm going to have to play with this a little. I can probably put the pump in about 4" space and give the intake a little more room, but i'm not sure what that will do to the pump.
 

larryndana

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all you need is a baffle about two inches from the end next to your skimmer. should work fine. you could even put the bioballs in some filter bags and pull them out to clean them from time to time.
 

renogaw

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Ok, been toying with plexiglass to see how the baffles should go before getting the glass cut. The way i see it is the first baffles are pretty much useless. the water level will be determined by the highest baffle, and then however high the next baffle is will determine that next water level?
or will there be one water level?
 
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