The VP is....

pontius

pontius

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if I can push the voting booth buttons without throwing up in my mouth, I will be casting my vote for Obama. It was a slap in the face to Republicans that McCain got the nomination. Romney should be the one running for Prez. and to not even have Romney on the ticket for VP is a second slap in the face. the Republican party seems to be more concerned with getting the "independent" vote and the "disgruntled female" vote, I guess they no longer need my vote. so I'll vote for the socialist and hope he doesn't ruin the country over the next 4 years with the hope that maybe the Republican party will possibly remove their head from their cornhole by 2012.
 
kjr_trig

kjr_trig

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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2739422
*Obama is a smoker and an African American. Bring on the health attacks...
I had no idea! How did I miss that one?
....In all seriousness, an African American male smoker has a life expectancy in the 50's.
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Pontius
http:///forum/post/2739502
if I can push the voting booth buttons without throwing up in my mouth, I will be casting my vote for Obama. It was a slap in the face to Republicans that McCain got the nomination. Romney should be the one running for Prez. and to not even have Romney on the ticket for VP is a second slap in the face. the Republican party seems to be more concerned with getting the "independent" vote and the "disgruntled female" vote, I guess they no longer need my vote. so I'll vote for the socialist and hope he doesn't ruin the country over the next 4 years with the hope that maybe the Republican party will possibly remove their head from their cornhole by 2012.
You don't think she is a strong play for the conservative vote? (I never liked Romney either) He set up a manditory health insurance system in a liberal state. And he and McCain have the same problem, they weren't that conservative to start out with. (well McCain over the last 8 years) She atleast can say she has.
 
kjr_trig

kjr_trig

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Originally Posted by Jmick
http:///forum/post/2739424
Clinton didn't have a lot of experience when we became our pres and he was hands down the best president we've had over the last 30-40 years.

A. He had been Governor, which is better experience for being Pres than being any sort of Congressman.
B. You have to be kidding
 
pontius

pontius

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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2739508
You don't think she is a strong play for the conservative vote?
nope, I think it is the single dumbest political move I've seen in my life. it's clearly a play for Hillary's voters, ok. but where is there any proof that a liberal woman is going to vote for a conservative woman, just because she's a woman? that's dumb. hell, Romney would've been the best play for women because many women vote just based on looks alone. this was a dumb, dumb, dumb move. and she's from ALASKA?!@?! so a Republican ticket from Arizona-Alaska. yeah, that sits well with east coast/southern voters. this is almost like a sign to me that McCain doesn't even want the job anymore. any chance McCain had of getting my vote (Romney as VP was the only chance) is gone now.
 
1journeyman

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Originally Posted by GeriDoc
http:///forum/post/2739496
It is not possible to have less experience than being mayor of a "city" of 8500, and brief governor of a state of 670,000. Chicago has more people than that living in (hyperbole alert!) one square mile, and last time I checked, the legislative branch of congress governed about 2.7 million.
Of course it is. Take Obama. How many bills did he write in the State Senate? (I'll give you a hint; He says he made a mistake on how he voted and asked to change his vote more times than he wrote bills).
She is a Governor of a State. You may not like it, but that means in the two years obama has been campaigning while supposedly serving as a US Senator she has actually been doing something.
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Pontius
http:///forum/post/2739519
nope, I think it is the single dumbest political move I've seen in my life. it's clearly a play for Hillary's voters, ok. but where is there any proof that a liberal woman is going to vote for a conservative woman, just because she's a woman? that's dumb. hell, Romney would've been the best play for women because many women vote just based on looks alone. this was a dumb, dumb, dumb move. and she's from ALASKA?!@?! so a Republican ticket from Arizona-Alaska. yeah, that sits well with east coast/southern voters.
Why? She has actually ran something. Even if the population of the state is small. She identifies more with the south than a north eastern from a liberal state governor who had to during the primary "modify" alot of his views to be palatable to the republican base? She doesn't have to change... She is a hunter, that isn't going to identify?
 
1journeyman

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by Pontius
http:///forum/post/2739519
nope, I think it is the single dumbest political move I've seen in my life. it's clearly a play for Hillary's voters, ok. but where is there any proof that a liberal woman is going to vote for a conservative woman, just because she's a woman? that's dumb. hell, Romney would've been the best play for women because many women vote just based on looks alone. this was a dumb, dumb, dumb move. and she's from ALASKA?!@?! so a Republican ticket from Arizona-Alaska. yeah, that sits well with east coast/southern voters. this is almost like a sign to me that McCain doesn't even want the job anymore. any chance McCain had of getting my vote (Romney as VP was the only chance) is gone now.
It was definitely a play for the "women" vote, but I'm not sure if that is just Hillary's camp. Many Republican and Independent women are still polling undecided.
From all I've heard, she's more Conservative than Romney. She's also very Pro-Life. Further, Alaskans tend to vote very independent and Conservative. If she ends up being truely Conservative I think it's a great pick.
 
1journeyman

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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2739525
Why? She has actually ran something. Even if the population of the state is small. She identifies more with the south than a north eastern from a liberal state governor who had to during the primary "modify" alot of his views to be palatable to the republican base? She doesn't have to change... She is a hunter, that isn't going to identify?
I agree. Southerners Identify with the rugged, independent reputation of Alaska.
 
moprint

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The lady is very conservative and a person of principal. The lady was back to work 3 days after having her fifth child. That child has Downs syndrom, she found out before the birth and never went back for a check up after that. She was appointed by a Rep. Governor to the Alaskan Oil Oversight Committe or something like that, he did this just to try to keep her from running for the governors office. She resinged that position, becuase she thought it was unethical the way she got it. Then she ran for governor and won. I think it's decent choice, the greatest maybe not.
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2739527
I agree. Southerners Identify with the rugged, independent reputation of Alaska.
As someone who lives in the south surrounded by hunters, (I think I'm the only person who doesn't hunt in the office) but I do fish. Alaska is like the sportsman's "promise land" and she gets to hunt.
 
rylan1

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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2739501
IMO there is a difference between being THE mayor or Governer vs. being a senator. It has been years, Since a senator has been elected to the presidency. Regardless of political affiliation.
Executive experience vs, senatorial experience for an Executive position leaves little question on who would be better qualified.
And regardless, you are talking about a veep. This isn't the question veep vs President. You can't argue qualifications without comparing apples to apples and discuss Obama vs. McCain.
Some of our best presidents were Senators/Congressman...with very similar experience as Obama...
Kennedy ... Lincoln.... Second... isn't the alternative also a Senator
 
rylan1

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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2739438
well, minus the debacles like black hawk down, selling missile secrets to the chinese, granting them Most favored nation status, turning down Osama when he was offered. His philandering while in office. The "wall between different forms of law enforcement". And the "recession" that bush inherited. I'd say he did a great job.
Do you hear yourself.... deabacles like Iraq... Afganistan ... we are talking wars.... not 1 mission... CIA leak, wire-tapping, gov't credit cards, firing atty generals, Iraq...
The biggest one.... KATRINA
It will be widely regarded that Bush is worst president in modern history...sorry
 
rylan1

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2nd... being southern has nothing to do with hunting.... the Midwest and NE are some of you most avid hunters...2nd being a NRA member is a Republican requirement whether you hunt or not.
Your nothern states are where much of the hunting occurs.. Ohio, Pa, Mich, Minn etc... what are you talking about with her relating to souterners ... She is in Alaska... their way of life is largely different from the Southern states.
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2739555
Do you hear yourself.... deabacles like Iraq... Afganistan ... we are talking wars.... not 1 mission... CIA leak, wire-tapping, gov't credit cards, firing atty generals, Iraq...
The biggest one.... KATRINA
It will be widely regarded that Bush is worst president in modern history...sorry
Yawn, yeah, hey do me a favor and study the balance of powers, then come back to me and tell me bush some how messed up katrina. The simple fact is the way it was set up, the state has to ask the feds, and they never did. I live in houston, I have first hand experience. Bush didn't

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up.
I'm failing to see how Iraq is a debacle.
Afganistan? Wire-tapping?
You realise Clinton fired EVERY ATTY IN THAT DEPARTMENT go look it up.
Widely maybe in liberal circles, maybe in classrooms taught by terrorists like ayers, in churches where American soldiers are called terrorists, where poets write about the wonders of socialism.
But not where us bitter clingers cling to our guns and religion. And to be blunt, the white man is the group you have to win to win the election
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2739561
I think he might be or worse, and I don't know or can feel how bad Carter was...

Well we don't have a misery index, and unemployment isn't 9% interest rates are 20% and we don't have lines at the gas pumps.
 
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