Thinking About Taking The Plunge????

mrinelfrlz

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and instead of 90 degree angled connections going down to the fug because i figured out i wont be able to go straight down to it
i will use 45 degree connections

1" x 1" 45 Degree Elbow Slip x Slip
 
mrinelfrlz

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Originally Posted by MrineLfRlz
ok do you mean one OF with two 1" drains or
two OF's that have just one 1" drain in each because if this is what you meant i was already going to do this
if not then what about this?
 
turningtim

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What kind of piping are you using to go down? 1" right? Look into spa-flex (flexable PVC) it would be much easier to deal with and would most likly cut out some elbows. It also fits into PVC fittings normally. You will also want to place threaded couplers at the pump to be able to remove it for maintenance and possible one other stratigic (sp?) place.
Most of the stuff to plumb this will be available at Depot or Lowes. Word to the wise buy extra. If you need one buy two. then just take back the unused parts. This will save some trips and frustration.
So we are going with a 55, 1200 gph OF, 2@1" drains, 2@1" returns and a flow through design. YES?
Yes 1 OF 2 1" drains. 1 box in the tank and one in the back and big enough to hold 2 durso stand pipes (get to that later)
 
turningtim

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The first one I have had and it's junk. There is another that I think is called a hurricane. Also had one junk. If you want togo U-tube than keep looking. I will also.
CPR style I really have never used one. You hear bad things about both and also good things about both. Your call. I will say that the CPR needs an additional pump (aqua lifter) to keep its siphon.
 
mrinelfrlz

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So we are going with a 55,
i dont suppose 55 is to big is it?
you mentioned a 40 gallon
i mean do i really need something this big just realized its 48" long
i will do it if its preferred though

also since the tank will be in the basement and not seen im not going to do a great stand at all may go country and put it up on blocks and 2x12's ha ha ha you can laugh now
at least waterchanges will be easy
 
mrinelfrlz

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Originally Posted by TurningTim
The first one I have had and it's junk. There is another that I think is called a hurricane. Also had one junk. If you want togo U-tube than keep looking. I will also.
CPR style I really have never used one. You hear bad things about both and also good things about both. Your call. I will say that the CPR needs an additional pump (aqua lifter) to keep its siphon.
i though u tubes was the only ones they had made?
 
murph

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Basment sump/fuge is good idea. I think your on to something now. The dual overflow with the two one inch drains and U tubes will work nicely.
How cold does it get down there in the winter months though?
good part is with fans and sump in basement you probably wont have any over heating problems with the DT. chillers are $$$$$$$
Check at hardware stores for pumps. When you get into pumps that can handle that much head you can sometimes save money buying ones at home depot. They wont be submersable though.
 
mrinelfrlz

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Originally Posted by Murph
Basment sump/fuge is good idea. I think your on to something now. The dual overflow with the two one inch drains and U tubes will work nicely.
How cold does it get down there in the winter months though?
good part is with fans and sump in basement you probably wont have any over heating problems with the DT. chillers are $$$$$$$
Check at hardware stores for pumps. When you get into pumps that can handle that much head you can sometimes save money buying ones at home depot. They wont be submersable though.
it does stay pretty cool down there and in the winter pretty cool but not freezing its not a finished basement by any means but it is heated so it will be ok

byt the way do you know of any good dual overflows
 
murph

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I always used U tube HOOF. I know; its difficult to find them on line and CPR seems to have the online market cornered but I still would not buy one.
I have had various styles of U tube OFs and all worked pretty well other than the noise they make. If the tank is in a room where noise from the tank i not an issue no problem. If noise is an issue and provided there is room in the overflow you can rig a durso style stand pipe. Google durso standpipe.
Only problem is there is often not enough room on the drain side box of the overflow to rig a durso. You may want to look into building your own to allow for this. If you build your own you can also use one large drain from tank to basement and then T that off to supply raw water to your skimmer compartment and another through filter media.
Try not to pre filter the water to your skimmer. This kind of defeats the purpose in a way. The pre filters you see on commercial overflow are there in an attempt to limit noise and serve no real filtration purpose.
 
mrinelfrlz

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hay i was thinking since i am going 55 gallon sump could i grow corral frags in it because i know ive got to have alot of room in the fug area right?
 
murph

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If you have the lighting sure. Some people keep Xenia in fuges as they are a nutrient loving/exporting type of coral.
 
mrinelfrlz

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Originally Posted by Murph
If you have the lighting sure. Some people keep Xenia in fuges as they are a nutrient loving/exporting type of coral.
right now i do have alot of aqua cultured xenia and am going to move them to the fug
what i would like to do is frag all types except sps i know i dont have the flow of coral a possibly sell some maybe i can set up some racks if i have the room for some soft type kinds do you think it will be big enough for me to do those corals
i mean 55 gal is some what big
 
mrinelfrlz

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Originally Posted by TurningTim
how about a 55?
by the way i just wanted to thank you in advance for the plans your drawing up for me

trying to find a used one but i will probably have to buy it new
around $120 at *****
 
turningtim

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Unless you find a good deal and know what was in the tank i would just buy new......
Here is just a basic drawing of what you're looking at.....
 
mrinelfrlz

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Originally Posted by TurningTim
Darn it!!!! the changes I made didn't take.
VERY NICE
what about a plan measurements exc... were you going to make me up a plan or do i figure it out?
don't mean to be pushy at all

and thanks for the help i just didnt know what you meant by a drawing for the sump/fug
 
turningtim

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Starting from scratch, my program went wacko!
The purpose of the drawing will be to get a parts list, pipe sizing, head loss. I will dim-out the fuge so you will have measurments but as far as length of pipes for plumbing the tank, I really can't say, things will change during the plumbing install. So this really just to get a good idea of what is going on and how you wnat to install it. Besides I can't draw spa-flex so you will/may find a better way to go up and down stairs.
Again just trying to provide a good outline for you to reduce frustration and kinda know what you're doing from the start!
 
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