This Will Guarantee A Republican Victory In 2012

[reefraff]

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/80#post_3387657
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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///forum/thread/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/80#post_3387656
MMmmm. I've know some idiots in many different uniforms in my life, including military. It happens. How about the doctor that used the military to get educated then when faced with active duty became a conscientious objector? Idiot doesn't begin to define that clown.
But that is the greater minority is it not?
I would say since we invaded Afghanistan the class of people joining the military has greatly improved overall. It takes a certain type of person to join up knowing they can see combat. You know these people aren't joining for the pay.

 

[bionicarm]

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/80#post_3387654
Out of curiosty...who do you have respect for? It seems like no matter the demography you can point out the bad or idiots....is it because you place yourself above them or you just see the bad in everyone.
By the way texas legislature and go ernor perry have to be doing something right...you guys have the highest job growth rate in the country for a while now.
What's the old saying? "You don't get respect, you earn it." Like I said, I do work with some very "respected" individuals who serve our country well. I just happen to see the same amount of freeloaders. I don't think I can recall one politician or lawyer I've ever respected. Most of them are just leeches to society, and would bend you over and do the dirty deed if it put a buck in their pocket. I know several doctors and individuals in the medical profession I highly respect. Other than that, not many...
Wish I knew where that growth was. I haven't seen it in San Antonio, except for a bunch of call centers. There is the Shale Oil Project just southwest of here. I'm sure al the riggers are heading that way.
Yea, we're doing great. $18 billion deficit, and Perry's answer is like every other Republican, whack education to the bone, reduce healthcare for the elderly, and give tax incentives to his insurance cronies.

 

[reefraff]

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/100#post_3387710
What's the old saying? "You don't get respect, you earn it." Like I said, I do work with some very "respected" individuals who serve our country well. I just happen to see the same amount of freeloaders. I don't think I can recall one politician or lawyer I've ever respected. Most of them are just leeches to society, and would bend you over and do the dirty deed if it put a buck in their pocket. I know several doctors and individuals in the medical profession I highly respect. Other than that, not many...
Wish I knew where that growth was. I haven't seen it in San Antonio, except for a bunch of call centers. There is the Shale Oil Project just southwest of here. I'm sure al the riggers are heading that way.
Yea, we're doing great. $18 billion deficit, and Perry's answer is like every other Republican, whack education to the bone, reduce healthcare for the elderly, and give tax incentives to his insurance cronies.
So mwhere would you cut to balance the state budget?
I didn't think highly of lawyers until I met some of my wife's co workers but those were defense lawyers. I've known some good politicians as high up as a Congressman, but he only did two terms in DC and got out before he caught the beltway brainwash.

 

[darthtang aw]

What's the old saying?  "You don't get respect, you earn it."  Like I said, I do work with some very "respected" individuals who serve our country well.  I just happen to see the same amount of freeloaders.  I don't think I can recall one politician or lawyer I've ever respected.  Most of them are just leeches to society, and would bend you over and do the dirty deed if it put a buck in their pocket.  I know several doctors and individuals in the medical profession I highly respect.  Other than that, not many...
 
Wish I knew where that growth was.  I haven't seen it in San Antonio, except for a bunch of call centers.  There is the Shale Oil Project just southwest of here.  I'm sure al the riggers are heading that way.
 
Yea, we're doing great.  $18 billion deficit, and Perry's answer is like every other Republican, whack education to the bone, reduce healthcare for the elderly, and give tax incentives to his insurance cronies.
 
I understand you on the respect thing...but for me once you sign that dotted line that usually takes some cahojes...they may not know it then but the majority do earn it. Politicians...very few....the honest once are usually the lesser knowns.
Houston and fortworth/dallas are the main areas.

 

[stdreb27]

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/100#post_3387710
What's the old saying? "You don't get respect, you earn it." Like I said, I do work with some very "respected" individuals who serve our country well. I just happen to see the same amount of freeloaders. I don't think I can recall one politician or lawyer I've ever respected. Most of them are just leeches to society, and would bend you over and do the dirty deed if it put a buck in their pocket. I know several doctors and individuals in the medical profession I highly respect. Other than that, not many...
Wish I knew where that growth was. I haven't seen it in San Antonio, except for a bunch of call centers. There is the Shale Oil Project just southwest of here. I'm sure al the riggers are heading that way.
Yea, we're doing great. $18 billion deficit, and Perry's answer is like every other Republican, whack education to the bone, reduce healthcare for the elderly, and give tax incentives to his insurance cronies.
lol they didn't wack education to the bone.

 

[bionicarm]

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Originally Posted by stdreb27 http:///forum/thread/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/100#post_3387798
lol they didn't wack education to the bone.
Really? Guess that's why almost every school district in San Antonio is slashing their budgets, and letting go multiple teachers and other staff. I think the district I'm in will lose over $4 million in State funding next year. Who needs teachers. The kids these days just hang out on Twitter and Facebook anyways. My high school daughter has friends who struggle with basic math and communication skills. Yea, you can blame it on the parents if you want, but the educators are also responsible for insuring their students are actually understanding what is being taught to them.

 

[stdreb27]

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/100#post_3387802
Really? Guess that's why almost every school district in San Antonio is slashing their budgets, and letting go multiple teachers and other staff. I think the district I'm in will lose over $4 million in State funding next year. Who needs teachers. The kids these days just hang out on Twitter and Facebook anyways. My high school daughter has friends who struggle with basic math and communication skills. Yea, you can blame it on the parents if you want, but the educators are also responsible for insuring their students are actually understanding what is being taught to them.
I don't understand this idea that government shouldn't shrink while everything else is... But come on, why should we keep dumping money into a pit that doesn't work... _see your daughter's friends.... Nah, but you're telling me that a 6% or so cut is chopped bare. lol
You know, (and this is just me) but if you give people something for free, they don't value it. I say make em pay for their own education, maybe then they'll actually put some work into school.... It is amazing how much better my grades were, when I actually started paying for my own college...

 

[reefraff]

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/100#post_3387802
Really? Guess that's why almost every school district in San Antonio is slashing their budgets, and letting go multiple teachers and other staff. I think the district I'm in will lose over $4 million in State funding next year. Who needs teachers. The kids these days just hang out on Twitter and Facebook anyways. My high school daughter has friends who struggle with basic math and communication skills. Yea, you can blame it on the parents if you want, but the educators are also responsible for insuring their students are actually understanding what is being taught to them.
Maybe it's time to get rid of the councilors, life coaches, Psychologists and other non teaching staff liberals have forced on the system over the years. Seriously if the state has to cut spending where are you going to do it? Don't know about your state but school spending is the largest part of our state budget

 

[russman4]

Nothing in the Constitution precludes it. The Constitution inherently gives you the right to earn a living to support yourself. If you don't believe that then you have a very
serious problem. Unions are a private group you join, willingly. If you think you are forced to join, then don't. Isn't that how Republicans like it? I hear them say it all the time,
"if you don't like it, don't do it". So simple. So yes, Unions are a right inherent in the Constitution. The right to work, the right to gather privately with whomever you choose for whatever
cause. Lobbyists have a right, now don't they? God knows Republicans love the lobbyists for corporations. And corporations are not citizens, at least not yet, until Romney has his way.
So if lobbyists are fine, certainly Unions are as well. Both are covered under the Constitution.
You do not need a specific line in the Constitution for something to be covered. That is why we have a Supreme Court. And the issue of Unions was long long long ago settled. End of story.

 

[mantisman51]

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Originally Posted by russman4 http:///t/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/100#post_3424556
Nothing in the Constitution precludes it. The Constitution inherently gives you the right to earn a living to support yourself. If you don't believe that then you have a very
serious problem. Unions are a private group you join, willingly. If you think you are forced to join, then don't. Isn't that how Republicans like it? I hear them say it all the time,
"if you don't like it, don't do it". So simple. So yes, Unions are a right inherent in the Constitution. The right to work, the right to gather privately with whomever you choose for whatever
cause. Lobbyists have a right, now don't they? God knows Republicans love the lobbyists for corporations. And corporations are not citizens, at least not yet, until Romney has his way.
So if lobbyists are fine, certainly Unions are as well. Both are covered under the Constitution.
You do not need a specific line in the Constitution for something to be covered. That is why we have a Supreme Court. And the issue of Unions was long long long ago settled. End of story.
This old thing? Oh well. Let's dive in. The Supreme Court just ruled in 2010 that corporations ARE citizens and have the right to free speech-though I am uncertain as to the political point being made. I take it that you are saying unions are good and corporations are bad?

 

[stdreb27]

I still don't understand why people got all worked up by that decision, every other group and the dog, have been contributing to political campaigns for years, why is it suddenly bad if a couple who's joined together to make money contributes... Unions, tree hugger groups, special interests, all give money to the political process, there is no legal reason, why you should be precluded simply because your goal is to make money, vs force your own personal beliefs on the entire country....

 

[darthtang aw]

Nothing in the Constitution precludes it. The Constitution inherently gives you the right to earn a living to support yourself. If you don't believe that then you have a very
serious problem. Unions are a private group you join, willingly. If you think you are forced to join, then don't. Isn't that how Republicans like it? I hear them say it all the time,
"if you don't like it, don't do it". So simple. So yes, Unions are a right inherent in the Constitution. The right to work, the right to gather privately with whomever you choose for whatever
cause. Lobbyists have a right, now don't they? God knows Republicans love the lobbyists for corporations. And corporations are not citizens, at least not yet, until Romney has his way.
So if lobbyists are fine, certainly Unions are as well. Both are covered under the Constitution.
You do not need a specific line in the Constitution for something to be covered. That is why we have a Supreme Court. And the issue of Unions was long long long ago settled. End of story.
There is so much wrong with this it is just sad.
Darth (look, your tail) Tang

 

[stdreb27]

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Originally Posted by russman4 http:///t/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/100#post_3424556
Nothing in the Constitution precludes it. The Constitution inherently gives you the right to earn a living to support yourself. If you don't believe that then you have a very
serious problem. Unions are a private group you join, willingly. If you think you are forced to join, then don't. Isn't that how Republicans like it? I hear them say it all the time,
"if you don't like it, don't do it". So simple. So yes, Unions are a right inherent in the Constitution. The right to work, the right to gather privately with whomever you choose for whatever
cause. Lobbyists have a right, now don't they? God knows Republicans love the lobbyists for corporations. And corporations are not citizens, at least not yet, until Romney has his way.
So if lobbyists are fine, certainly Unions are as well. Both are covered under the Constitution.
You do not need a specific line in the Constitution for something to be covered. That is why we have a Supreme Court. And the issue of Unions was long long long ago settled. End of story.
What in the world are you talking about? Ask Boeing what it is like to try to open a non-union shop...

 

[mantisman51]

I am friend nor foe to unions or corporations. I think they both have good points and bad points. Neither is inherently good or evil. I will mistrust those who try to force others to do their bidding, however, and that is unions. The thing I find most telling about unions is that if all unions were busted, the mob would virtually disappear overnight. Unions are the biggest source of income for organized crime. Coincidence? I don't know; why are the biggest mobsters and the biggest union bosses the same people?

 

[reefraff]

I believe unions have the right to exist but I don't believe they have the right to force anyone to join in any state. We have the right to, or not to associate with anyone we want.