This Will Guarantee A Republican Victory In 2012
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darthtang aw
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You like Reagan so much please please let's go back to his tax rates. That would be a huge increase over today....
I would have no problem with that once the unemployment rate is back down to around 5%.
I would have no problem with that once the unemployment rate is back down to around 5%.
darthtang aw
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How many of the republicans today are back tracking on there stances of the past? O what I ment was no government health care....right see:rotfl:
Medicare is a retirement healthcare plan..not a plan that is for the whole country...it is also a plan everyone has paid into....which is different than obamas plan. Medicare is also running red.....how do we pay for a national plan if we can't pay for for the elderly plan....
Medicare is a retirement healthcare plan..not a plan that is for the whole country...it is also a plan everyone has paid into....which is different than obamas plan. Medicare is also running red.....how do we pay for a national plan if we can't pay for for the elderly plan....
bionicarm
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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/60#post_3387114
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Originally Posted by Rslinger http:///forum/thread/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/60#post_3387090
How many of the republicans today are back tracking on there stances of the past? O what I ment was no government health care....right see:rotfl:
Medicare is a retirement healthcare plan..not a plan that is for the whole country...it is also a plan everyone has paid into....which is different than obamas plan. Medicare is also running red.....how do we pay for a national plan if we can't pay for for the elderly plan....
Come on, If you took Smith's little speech and stuck Obama's name on it, you'd swear he was promoting Obamacare. Yea, I stuck thousands of dollars into Medicare. And now the Republicans want to give me some voucher towards finding my own health plan. What happens when I take that voucher somewhere and the say, "Sorry, you have a pre-existing medical condition. If you want coverage with us, you'll have to pay X amount of dollars more for that coverage." "Oh you have cancer or congentital heart disease? DENIED" Why not just take me out to pasture and shoot me?
Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/60#post_3387114
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Originally Posted by Rslinger http:///forum/thread/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/60#post_3387090
How many of the republicans today are back tracking on there stances of the past? O what I ment was no government health care....right see:rotfl:
Medicare is a retirement healthcare plan..not a plan that is for the whole country...it is also a plan everyone has paid into....which is different than obamas plan. Medicare is also running red.....how do we pay for a national plan if we can't pay for for the elderly plan....
Come on, If you took Smith's little speech and stuck Obama's name on it, you'd swear he was promoting Obamacare. Yea, I stuck thousands of dollars into Medicare. And now the Republicans want to give me some voucher towards finding my own health plan. What happens when I take that voucher somewhere and the say, "Sorry, you have a pre-existing medical condition. If you want coverage with us, you'll have to pay X amount of dollars more for that coverage." "Oh you have cancer or congentital heart disease? DENIED" Why not just take me out to pasture and shoot me?
reefraff
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Originally Posted by 1Snapple http:///forum/thread/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/40#post_3387019
reefraff i bet you voted for Bush, I also thing Dathtang AW voted for bush, I have nothing else here to type.
And whats wrong with allowing the illegals to become citizens? then they have too pay taxes like everyone else.
So if someone breaks into your vacation home and you don't discovered it for 6 months. Do you just give them your house because their family has grown accustomed to living there? And not only did I vote for Bush twice, Me, My wife and my son donated the max to his campaign against Gore. And I don't like Bush. But when the Democrats run people like Gore and Kerry against him I become his biggest fan.
Originally Posted by 1Snapple http:///forum/thread/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/40#post_3387019
reefraff i bet you voted for Bush, I also thing Dathtang AW voted for bush, I have nothing else here to type.
And whats wrong with allowing the illegals to become citizens? then they have too pay taxes like everyone else.
So if someone breaks into your vacation home and you don't discovered it for 6 months. Do you just give them your house because their family has grown accustomed to living there? And not only did I vote for Bush twice, Me, My wife and my son donated the max to his campaign against Gore. And I don't like Bush. But when the Democrats run people like Gore and Kerry against him I become his biggest fan.
reefraff
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Originally Posted by Rslinger http:///forum/thread/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/40#post_3387089
You like Reagan so much please please let's go back to his tax rates. That would be a huge increase over today....
Sure but let's go back to ALL the rates under Reagan. That means the universal service fees and other taxes added on to our utility bills go away and we decrease all the welfare programs and earned income credit back to the 80's levels too. I am not against raising tax rates once economic conditions make it a possibility. I just want to decrease the giveaways by the same amount taxes are increased.
Originally Posted by Rslinger http:///forum/thread/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/40#post_3387089
You like Reagan so much please please let's go back to his tax rates. That would be a huge increase over today....
Sure but let's go back to ALL the rates under Reagan. That means the universal service fees and other taxes added on to our utility bills go away and we decrease all the welfare programs and earned income credit back to the 80's levels too. I am not against raising tax rates once economic conditions make it a possibility. I just want to decrease the giveaways by the same amount taxes are increased.
reefraff
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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/60#post_3387114
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Originally Posted by Rslinger http:///forum/thread/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/60#post_3387090
How many of the republicans today are back tracking on there stances of the past? O what I ment was no government health care....right see:rotfl:
Medicare is a retirement healthcare plan..not a plan that is for the whole country...it is also a plan everyone has paid into....which is different than obamas plan. Medicare is also running red.....how do we pay for a national plan if we can't pay for for the elderly plan....
Medicare doesn't work well but it works. It would be a nightmare if the whole country was on it. It is very hard to find a doc that will accept it as it is.
Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/60#post_3387114
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Originally Posted by Rslinger http:///forum/thread/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/60#post_3387090
How many of the republicans today are back tracking on there stances of the past? O what I ment was no government health care....right see:rotfl:
Medicare is a retirement healthcare plan..not a plan that is for the whole country...it is also a plan everyone has paid into....which is different than obamas plan. Medicare is also running red.....how do we pay for a national plan if we can't pay for for the elderly plan....
Medicare doesn't work well but it works. It would be a nightmare if the whole country was on it. It is very hard to find a doc that will accept it as it is.
oscardeuce
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Medicare doesn't work well but it works. It would be a nightmare if the whole country was on it. It is very hard to find a doc that will accept it as it is.
You are right. There are fewer physicians declining medicare and medicaid. I would if I had a choice, but as an emergency physician, I am mandated by club fed to see everyone. They just don't pay for that mandate.
I hope I can retire before obamacare ruins it.
I just hope there is some medicae money left from what i have been paying into the system,but alas i fear the gov't has spent it on other things.
darthtang aw
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Come on, If you took Smith's little speech and stuck Obama's name on it, you'd swear he was promoting Obamacare. Yea, I stuck thousands of dollars into Medicare. And now the Republicans want to give me some voucher towards finding my own health plan. What happens when I take that voucher somewhere and the say, "Sorry, you have a pre-existing medical condition. If you want coverage with us, you'll have to pay X amount of dollars more for that coverage." "Oh you have cancer or congentital heart disease? DENIED" Why not just take me out to pasture and shoot me?
If the status quo continues, there will be no medicare when you are at qualifying age. The republicans hav e proposed several plans (you have a hold of one that you are fixated on) the democrats want to leave the status quo. Which is worse.....a voucher or no medicare........when you side has a plan..then speak on this.....see your problem is you can not grasp how much this crap costs....you are the typical spoiled american...you want your cake and eat it to...you just don't want to prepare or cook it yourself.
To Rslinger
Free healthcare...this is what you want....you live in wisconsin...why not just move to Canada and you can have all you want.....oh yeah, they are making cuts now as well....I wonder why that is.
I am not saying leave the country...but your dislike for the lack of free stuff and wars can easily be solved by yourself by moving a couple hundred miles...in canada, all you dream for and desire already exists........seems to me this would be easier than waiting for the rest of us enlightened people to catch up to your supreme intellect.
Darth (self preservation) Tang
bionicarm
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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/60#post_3387162
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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/60#post_3387116
Come on, If you took Smith's little speech and stuck Obama's name on it, you'd swear he was promoting Obamacare. Yea, I stuck thousands of dollars into Medicare. And now the Republicans want to give me some voucher towards finding my own health plan. What happens when I take that voucher somewhere and the say, "Sorry, you have a pre-existing medical condition. If you want coverage with us, you'll have to pay X amount of dollars more for that coverage." "Oh you have cancer or congentital heart disease? DENIED" Why not just take me out to pasture and shoot me?
If the status quo continues, there will be no medicare when you are at qualifying age. The republicans hav e proposed several plans (you have a hold of one that you are fixated on) the democrats want to leave the status quo. Which is worse.....a voucher or no medicare........when you side has a plan..then speak on this.....see your problem is you can not grasp how much this crap costs....you are the typical spoiled american...you want your cake and eat it to...you just don't want to prepare or cook it yourself.
To Rslinger
Free healthcare...this is what you want....you live in wisconsin...why not just move to Canada and you can have all you want.....oh yeah, they are making cuts now as well....I wonder why that is.
I am not saying leave the country...but your dislike for the lack of free stuff and wars can easily be solved by yourself by moving a couple hundred miles...in canada, all you dream for and desire already exists........seems to me this would be easier than waiting for the rest of us enlightened people to catch up to your supreme intellect.
Darth (self preservation) Tang
Say what? Spolied American? Are you serious? So because the Feds screwed around with Medicare like they did Social Security, I'm supposed to just go "Oh well, sucks to be me."? Why the magical number of 54? Possibly because that's hitting the end of the Baby Boomers? Like I said, I've put my money into that system the same way all the current Medicare recipients have over the years. All I do want is "my fair share". But because all I want is what is due to me, I'm "spoiled". Riiiight.
This voucher option is the only plan I've heard from the Republicans. Show me the other alternatives. As far as the Democrats? It's already in place. It's what you call Obamacare. Roll me into that plan, and you can have your Medicare.
Is this little mandate going to affect you? If not, then I can see why you're not complaining. The Haves always have a different attitude than the Have Nots when it comes to issues like this.
Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/60#post_3387162
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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/60#post_3387116
Come on, If you took Smith's little speech and stuck Obama's name on it, you'd swear he was promoting Obamacare. Yea, I stuck thousands of dollars into Medicare. And now the Republicans want to give me some voucher towards finding my own health plan. What happens when I take that voucher somewhere and the say, "Sorry, you have a pre-existing medical condition. If you want coverage with us, you'll have to pay X amount of dollars more for that coverage." "Oh you have cancer or congentital heart disease? DENIED" Why not just take me out to pasture and shoot me?
If the status quo continues, there will be no medicare when you are at qualifying age. The republicans hav e proposed several plans (you have a hold of one that you are fixated on) the democrats want to leave the status quo. Which is worse.....a voucher or no medicare........when you side has a plan..then speak on this.....see your problem is you can not grasp how much this crap costs....you are the typical spoiled american...you want your cake and eat it to...you just don't want to prepare or cook it yourself.
To Rslinger
Free healthcare...this is what you want....you live in wisconsin...why not just move to Canada and you can have all you want.....oh yeah, they are making cuts now as well....I wonder why that is.
I am not saying leave the country...but your dislike for the lack of free stuff and wars can easily be solved by yourself by moving a couple hundred miles...in canada, all you dream for and desire already exists........seems to me this would be easier than waiting for the rest of us enlightened people to catch up to your supreme intellect.
Darth (self preservation) Tang
Say what? Spolied American? Are you serious? So because the Feds screwed around with Medicare like they did Social Security, I'm supposed to just go "Oh well, sucks to be me."? Why the magical number of 54? Possibly because that's hitting the end of the Baby Boomers? Like I said, I've put my money into that system the same way all the current Medicare recipients have over the years. All I do want is "my fair share". But because all I want is what is due to me, I'm "spoiled". Riiiight.
This voucher option is the only plan I've heard from the Republicans. Show me the other alternatives. As far as the Democrats? It's already in place. It's what you call Obamacare. Roll me into that plan, and you can have your Medicare.
Is this little mandate going to affect you? If not, then I can see why you're not complaining. The Haves always have a different attitude than the Have Nots when it comes to issues like this.
darthtang aw
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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/60#post_3387276
Is this little mandate going to affect you? If not, then I can see why you're not complaining. The Haves always have a different attitude than the Have Nots when it comes to issues like this.
I probably make less money than you a year. I am not the one living in a 300,000 dollar home. But then again, maybe I use my money more wisely.............
It isn't about have's and have nots...its about the future of this country. If your kind was around in the 1920's, we never would have made it through the depression..........
Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/60#post_3387276
Is this little mandate going to affect you? If not, then I can see why you're not complaining. The Haves always have a different attitude than the Have Nots when it comes to issues like this.
I probably make less money than you a year. I am not the one living in a 300,000 dollar home. But then again, maybe I use my money more wisely.............
It isn't about have's and have nots...its about the future of this country. If your kind was around in the 1920's, we never would have made it through the depression..........
mantisman51
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Mkay, good points-both sides. I love it when libs throw down. You guys are holding your own. Thumbs up from me. Back to what started this. I have to admit I put too much trust in Holder and Obama. They played all of us for chumps to advance new gun control:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/04/28/americas-war-arming-mexican-cartels/?test=latestnews
While there have been recent incidents of shootings lately with guns bought here in Az, the vast majority of the crime is being done with guns purchased from the US government. Obama's State Department caused the problem and then Obama wants to restrict our rights as though we citizens are the problem. Yup, when the NRA (I'm renewing my membership) uses this next year Obummer is one and done.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/04/28/americas-war-arming-mexican-cartels/?test=latestnews
While there have been recent incidents of shootings lately with guns bought here in Az, the vast majority of the crime is being done with guns purchased from the US government. Obama's State Department caused the problem and then Obama wants to restrict our rights as though we citizens are the problem. Yup, when the NRA (I'm renewing my membership) uses this next year Obummer is one and done.
reefraff
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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/60#post_3387276
Say what? Spolied American? Are you serious? So because the Feds screwed around with Medicare like they did Social Security, I'm supposed to just go "Oh well, sucks to be me."? Why the magical number of 54? Possibly because that's hitting the end of the Baby Boomers? Like I said, I've put my money into that system the same way all the current Medicare recipients have over the years. All I do want is "my fair share". But because all I want is what is due to me, I'm "spoiled". Riiiight.
This voucher option is the only plan I've heard from the Republicans. Show me the other alternatives. As far as the Democrats? It's already in place. It's what you call Obamacare. Roll me into that plan, and you can have your Medicare.
Is this little mandate going to affect you? If not, then I can see why you're not complaining. The Haves always have a different attitude than the Have Nots when it comes to issues like this.
You can't be serious. First off 0bama care cut half a billion from Medicare, Gee that helped. 0bama care isn't even in the same universe as a solution for medicare.
Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/60#post_3387276
Say what? Spolied American? Are you serious? So because the Feds screwed around with Medicare like they did Social Security, I'm supposed to just go "Oh well, sucks to be me."? Why the magical number of 54? Possibly because that's hitting the end of the Baby Boomers? Like I said, I've put my money into that system the same way all the current Medicare recipients have over the years. All I do want is "my fair share". But because all I want is what is due to me, I'm "spoiled". Riiiight.
This voucher option is the only plan I've heard from the Republicans. Show me the other alternatives. As far as the Democrats? It's already in place. It's what you call Obamacare. Roll me into that plan, and you can have your Medicare.
Is this little mandate going to affect you? If not, then I can see why you're not complaining. The Haves always have a different attitude than the Have Nots when it comes to issues like this.
You can't be serious. First off 0bama care cut half a billion from Medicare, Gee that helped. 0bama care isn't even in the same universe as a solution for medicare.
rslinger
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SINGLE PAYER HEALTH CARE... There is the answer. It would bring down the cost of health care. It would bring down the percent of gdp that health care cost us. The way it is now it cost us more for health care than any other nation. We are the only country in the free world where anybody has ever and I mean ever had to file for bankruptcy because of medical bills. That is how you fix Medicare. SINGLE PAYER HEALTH CARE. It will force medical companies to bring down inflated prices or the government won't do business with them it will bring it all under control.
reefraff
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Originally Posted by Rslinger http:///forum/thread/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/60#post_3387318
SINGLE PAYER HEALTH CARE... There is the answer. It would bring down the cost of health care. It would bring down the percent of gdp that health care cost us. The way it is now it cost us more for health care than any other nation. We are the only country in the free world where anybody has ever and I mean ever had to file for bankruptcy because of medical bills. That is how you fix Medicare. SINGLE PAYER HEALTH CARE. It will force medical companies to bring down inflated prices or the government won't do business with them it will bring it all under control.
So you think the doctors that spend 6 years in school and another how many more working hellish hours as an intern are going to accept less money because it's the government paying them?
Do you think the lawyers will file fewer lawsuits because it's the government's pockets they'll be digging into?
Do you think the same organization responsible for for the post office and Amtrack, the Big DIg and countless other disasters can fix health care? They run Medicare now, thats a real model of success.
Originally Posted by Rslinger http:///forum/thread/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/60#post_3387318
SINGLE PAYER HEALTH CARE... There is the answer. It would bring down the cost of health care. It would bring down the percent of gdp that health care cost us. The way it is now it cost us more for health care than any other nation. We are the only country in the free world where anybody has ever and I mean ever had to file for bankruptcy because of medical bills. That is how you fix Medicare. SINGLE PAYER HEALTH CARE. It will force medical companies to bring down inflated prices or the government won't do business with them it will bring it all under control.
So you think the doctors that spend 6 years in school and another how many more working hellish hours as an intern are going to accept less money because it's the government paying them?
Do you think the lawyers will file fewer lawsuits because it's the government's pockets they'll be digging into?
Do you think the same organization responsible for for the post office and Amtrack, the Big DIg and countless other disasters can fix health care? They run Medicare now, thats a real model of success.
ironeagle2006
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BTW it was not 500 Million from Medicare it was 500 BILLION or half a trillion or 1/3 of Obamas Decifect Spemnding for this Year. To put it to you this way it was enough to give each holusehold of 4 people almost 6700 dollars in CASH, or BUY 100 NEW CVN-21 Carriers at 5 Billion Each. That give you an Idea how much Obama cut from MEDICARE with Obamacare.
bionicarm
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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/60#post_3387279
I probably make less money than you a year. I am not the one living in a 300,000 dollar home. But then again, maybe I use my money more wisely.............
It isn't about have's and have nots...its about the future of this country. If your kind was around in the 1920's, we never would have made it through the depression..........
Ah, so if you can afford to pay your own way for healthcare, you're suppose "To take a bullet" for the Good Ole USA, so those less fortunate can have their medical benefits. Doesn't that fall in line with your dismay about Obama wanting to get rid of the Bush Taxes for those who make over $250K? You didn't answer the question. Will the supposed 54 year old limit affect you?
So I can afford a $300,000 home, but I'm not supposed to buy that much home because I'm not "using my money wisely"? Used to be property WAS the wise investment. I haven't lost much in my property value, simply because San Antonio's real estate market hasn't been hit that hard. But hey, I'll sell tomorrow and go live in a two bedroom shack just so I can tell you I'm being frugal with my money and investments.
You sound more Liberal than I do....
Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/60#post_3387279
I probably make less money than you a year. I am not the one living in a 300,000 dollar home. But then again, maybe I use my money more wisely.............
It isn't about have's and have nots...its about the future of this country. If your kind was around in the 1920's, we never would have made it through the depression..........
Ah, so if you can afford to pay your own way for healthcare, you're suppose "To take a bullet" for the Good Ole USA, so those less fortunate can have their medical benefits. Doesn't that fall in line with your dismay about Obama wanting to get rid of the Bush Taxes for those who make over $250K? You didn't answer the question. Will the supposed 54 year old limit affect you?
So I can afford a $300,000 home, but I'm not supposed to buy that much home because I'm not "using my money wisely"? Used to be property WAS the wise investment. I haven't lost much in my property value, simply because San Antonio's real estate market hasn't been hit that hard. But hey, I'll sell tomorrow and go live in a two bedroom shack just so I can tell you I'm being frugal with my money and investments.
You sound more Liberal than I do....
darthtang aw
Active Member
Ah, so if you can afford to pay your own way for healthcare, you're suppose "To take a bullet" for the Good Ole USA, so those less fortunate can have their medical benefits. Doesn't that fall in line with your dismay about Obama wanting to get rid of the Bush Taxes for those who make over $250K? You didn't answer the question. Will the supposed 54 year old limit affect you?
So I can afford a $300,000 home, but I'm not supposed to buy that much home because I'm not "using my money wisely"? Used to be property WAS the wise investment. I haven't lost much in my property value, simply because San Antonio's real estate market hasn't been hit that hard. But hey, I'll sell tomorrow and go live in a two bedroom shack just so I can tell you I'm being frugal with my money and investments.
You sound more Liberal than I do....
Once again you completely missed my point.
Darth (no longer worth it) Tang
bionicarm
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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///forum/thread/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/60#post_3387288
You can't be serious. First off 0bama care cut half a billion from Medicare, Gee that helped. 0bama care isn't even in the same universe as a solution for medicare.
But you expect those individuals who paid into the system for decades, should now accept some other program that will more than likely cost even more money in premiums and costs. All for "The Good Of The Country". This "voucher" system sounds like an evil stepchild to Obamacare.
Originally Posted by reefraff http:///forum/thread/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/60#post_3387288
You can't be serious. First off 0bama care cut half a billion from Medicare, Gee that helped. 0bama care isn't even in the same universe as a solution for medicare.
But you expect those individuals who paid into the system for decades, should now accept some other program that will more than likely cost even more money in premiums and costs. All for "The Good Of The Country". This "voucher" system sounds like an evil stepchild to Obamacare.
bionicarm
Active Member
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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/60#post_3387344
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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/60#post_3387335
Ah, so if you can afford to pay your own way for healthcare, you're suppose "To take a bullet" for the Good Ole USA, so those less fortunate can have their medical benefits. Doesn't that fall in line with your dismay about Obama wanting to get rid of the Bush Taxes for those who make over $250K? You didn't answer the question. Will the supposed 54 year old limit affect you?
So I can afford a $300,000 home, but I'm not supposed to buy that much home because I'm not "using my money wisely"? Used to be property WAS the wise investment. I haven't lost much in my property value, simply because San Antonio's real estate market hasn't been hit that hard. But hey, I'll sell tomorrow and go live in a two bedroom shack just so I can tell you I'm being frugal with my money and investments.
You sound more Liberal than I do....
Once again you completely missed my point.
Darth (no longer worth it) Tang
Ok, what point did I miss? You called me a "spoiled American" because I simply want what I consider is due me after making my Medicare tax deductions for the last 30-something years, then you complain I should "take the hit" because my current income status is higher than yours (and I suppose most middle income Americans). Or I take it I shouldn't spend so much on a house, when I could live in a more "affordable" home so I can pay my own way for my healthcare insurance.
I should sacrifice the materialistic things in life because I shouldn't depend on the stinking Feds to help me with healthcare. That would be fine if ANY insurance company would give me coverage at a resonable premium, deduction, and out-of-pocket expense. Then also guarantee me that no matter what health issues I have, or did have in the past, they cannot drop or deny me coverage for my illnesses, no matter how much it costs.
What are you going to do for that individual that's 50 right now, and in 15 or so more years, decides to retire and can't get affordable insurance any longer because he doesn't work for a major company that keeps rates low? I guarantee you the first thing an insurance company will want is a full health workup, and all medical records for 'X' amount of years. So if this guy had cancer but is in remission, you think ANY insurance company will say, "No problem. We'll give you that policy at a GREAT rate."? Trust me, I know the answers to these questions.
Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///forum/thread/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/60#post_3387344
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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/385919/this-will-guarantee-a-republican-victory-in-2012/60#post_3387335
Ah, so if you can afford to pay your own way for healthcare, you're suppose "To take a bullet" for the Good Ole USA, so those less fortunate can have their medical benefits. Doesn't that fall in line with your dismay about Obama wanting to get rid of the Bush Taxes for those who make over $250K? You didn't answer the question. Will the supposed 54 year old limit affect you?
So I can afford a $300,000 home, but I'm not supposed to buy that much home because I'm not "using my money wisely"? Used to be property WAS the wise investment. I haven't lost much in my property value, simply because San Antonio's real estate market hasn't been hit that hard. But hey, I'll sell tomorrow and go live in a two bedroom shack just so I can tell you I'm being frugal with my money and investments.
You sound more Liberal than I do....
Once again you completely missed my point.
Darth (no longer worth it) Tang
Ok, what point did I miss? You called me a "spoiled American" because I simply want what I consider is due me after making my Medicare tax deductions for the last 30-something years, then you complain I should "take the hit" because my current income status is higher than yours (and I suppose most middle income Americans). Or I take it I shouldn't spend so much on a house, when I could live in a more "affordable" home so I can pay my own way for my healthcare insurance.
I should sacrifice the materialistic things in life because I shouldn't depend on the stinking Feds to help me with healthcare. That would be fine if ANY insurance company would give me coverage at a resonable premium, deduction, and out-of-pocket expense. Then also guarantee me that no matter what health issues I have, or did have in the past, they cannot drop or deny me coverage for my illnesses, no matter how much it costs.
What are you going to do for that individual that's 50 right now, and in 15 or so more years, decides to retire and can't get affordable insurance any longer because he doesn't work for a major company that keeps rates low? I guarantee you the first thing an insurance company will want is a full health workup, and all medical records for 'X' amount of years. So if this guy had cancer but is in remission, you think ANY insurance company will say, "No problem. We'll give you that policy at a GREAT rate."? Trust me, I know the answers to these questions.