Tony Romo Discussion

[ruaround]

Originally Posted by emmitt2
Im not saying he will be as good or as successful BUT Romo sure reminds me alot of Brady when he became the starter. He very well may do horrible the rest of the way but he certainly looks like he is going to be special.
Either way, we will POUND the pathetic Bucs on Thursday and that will put Romo one step closer to the playoffs. Then we can see if he will be special or a flash in the pan.
the only way that Romo is like Brady is the fact that Romo also replaced Bledsoe...
and its comments like "pathetic Bucs" that make those 3 or 4 haters start in...

 

[emmitt2]

Originally Posted by ruaround
the only way that Romo is like Brady is the fact that Romo also replaced Bledsoe...
and its comments like "pathetic Bucs" that make those 3 or 4 haters start in...
Umm, you are 3-7 and only 3 teams in the NFL have fewer wins. Sorry but being the 4th worst team in the league is pathetic(and dont say Simms got hurt, you were horrible with him!).
Romo is 3-1 and should be 4-0 with a 100.0 passer rating(2nd behind Peyton even counting the horrible 2nd half when he replaced Bledsoe). He has played 1 very good team on the road and the best team in the NFL at home and played a huge part in winning both. That is not only like Brady but actually better than Brady started most likely. Again, I SERIOUSLY doubt he is gonna win 3 of the next 4 SB's and become like Brady but he certainly looks special so far and IT IS KILLING ALL THE HATERS

 

[scubadoo]

Originally Posted by ruaround
the only way that Romo is like Brady is the fact that Romo also replaced Bledsoe...
and its comments like "pathetic Bucs" that make those 3 or 4 haters start in...
Brady was thrown in after Bledsoe was injured early in his second year. I would compare Romom to Delhomme...who sat on the bench a few year in New Orleans. he did strat one game in Ditka's last year. As I recall it was the last game of the season and he beat the Cowboys....a big defeat as it knocked them out of the playoffs.
Haslett decided to go with jeff Blake...then Brooks after Blake broke his ankle. Delhomme was then number two..and later sined as a free agent and backup to veteran Rondny Peete with the Panthers. Peete got injured and then Delhomme sarted.
Delhomme and ROmo both were undrafted and signed as rookie free agents. Both sat on the bencj a few years.
Brady sat on the bench a little over one year..and was drafted in the sixth round.
The defense played poorly two weeks in a row...but you cannot continue to lose the TO battle and win games..that is what sunk the boat.

 

[emmitt2]

Agreed, everyone was ooohing and aaaahing Brees 510 yards but he lost that game big time. He threw 2 bad int's in the endzone in the 1st half at 7-0 and 10-7, then threw the int for td at 24-10. Bad decisions definitely cost them but he racked up the yardage and everyone forgot the ints. The defense has to play better though even if you dont turn the ball over. That pass defense looked REALLY bad for most of the game.

 

[scubadoo]

Originally Posted by emmitt2
Umm, you are 3-7 and only 3 teams in the NFL have fewer wins. Sorry but being the 4th worst team in the league is pathetic(and dont say Simms got hurt, you were horrible with him!).
Romo is 3-1 and should be 4-0 with a 100.0 passer rating(2nd behind Peyton even counting the horrible 2nd half when he replaced Bledsoe). He has played 1 very good team on the road and the best team in the NFL at home and played a huge part in winning both. That is not only like Brady but actually better than Brady started most likely. Again, I SERIOUSLY doubt he is gonna win 3 of the next 4 SB's and become like Brady but he certainly looks special so far and IT IS KILLING ALL THE HATERS

It does not kill me as I would like to see the undrafted nobody do well.
It makes for a good story and gives hope to all the great players buried at small colleges that do not get the press.
I have alreadsy gone on record staing I did not beleive he would prove to be a legitimate strating caliber QB in the nfl. The jury is still out as a few games does not make a great player. I certainly have no problems being wrong regarding ROmo.
Dalls is in a good position now as the Giants are beat up..Philly lost their leader.
If you have followed the careers of the Manning QB's..it was told early on that the most talented of all was Eli. I grew up in New Orleans and watched both play at Newman High along with Cooper, their brother.
No one player can get a team to the playoffs or win a Super Bowl..but they can make a difference.

 

[scubadoo]

Originally Posted by emmitt2
Agreed, everyone was ooohing and aaaahing Brees 510 yards but he lost that game big time. He threw 2 bad int's in the endzone in the 1st half at 7-0 and 10-7, then threw the int for td at 24-10. Bad decisions definitely cost them but he racked up the yardage and everyone forgot the ints. The defense has to play better though even if you dont turn the ball over. That pass defense looked REALLY bad for most of the game.
No DB has an interception this year. The Saints adressed problems in the d-line and backer postion in the off-season. THey gambled and the d-cord;s have figured out the weakenss.
I'm not worried yet. All teams have a rock bottom time in the season or a panic time. If they win this weekend they will be in the hunt. If they lose in trouble..and lose the follwoing week thay are sunk.
8-8 is where I thought they would be before the season. Anything above that is gravy.

 

[ruaround]

the Bucs are 3 - 7... and riddled with injuries... i still like em though...
I picked up Romo on my fantasy team 4 weeks ago... its not killing me that he is having a slightly above average season... and if TO would have caught a few more balls Romos stats would be padded a little more... I also have TO on my fantasy team and it would have helped my team out as well...

 

[scubadoo]

Originally Posted by emmitt2
Umm, you are 3-7 and only 3 teams in the NFL have fewer wins. Sorry but being the 4th worst team in the league is pathetic(and dont say Simms got hurt, you were horrible with him!).:
As I recall..Dallas figured out a way to lose to the Redskins...what is their record again? That is why they play the games.
The Bucs have battled some injuries but still have some hosses on the tem. They have the ability to beat the Cowboys.....Cadilac is a hoss and they still have a few play makers on defense.
Dallas has already proven this year they can play down to the paethetic level teams..... as you call them.

 

[emmitt2]

Everything i have ever heard(10 BILLION stories on ESPN) said that Cooper was the most talented and athletic

I doubt Eli will ever be a "star" quality QB. He may be more talented but i seriously doubt it. He certainly doesnt have the drive or heart that his brother has. I hate Peyton and he is a choke artist but he is a fierce competitor and would fight to the death before quitting. Eli definitely looks like hes perfectly fine quitting when things get tough. If his name wasnt Manning, Eli would NOT be starting in the NFL right now, no way

 

[oceanists]

I think that Romo is alot like Brady's from the start you have a guy that everybody doubted and he shined when it mattered, as for saying he hasnt done what Brady and Manning have done is comparing apples to oranges because he hasnt had that shot. But he certainly is on the right path, look what he has done to a team that was in big trouble. To be technical Emmitt is right he should be 4-0 if it was not for Vanderjacked or I think it was Colombo who blew his block. But that is a IF. regardles 3-1 with a team that has been pounded by mediocre defenses previously isnt to shabby. And he is doing 100% better than all the experts predicted. The guy is going to be a Probowl QB.
Cowboys are all of the sudden set to win their division , come Thursday they will be leading thee division.
You are right Scuba this very well could be a trap game , but honestly I dont think the cowboys will let it happen to them, they are allready focused on the bucs and honestly the bucs dont have a offense that can put the cowboys defense in a strangle hold.
They also do not have that run defense to contain the potency of the Jones Barber combo.... Time will tell though

 

[emmitt2]

Originally Posted by ScubaDoo
As I recall..Dallas figured out a way to lose to the Redskins...what is their record again? That is why they play the games.
The Bucs have battled some injuries but still have some hosses on the tem. They have the ability to beat the Cowboys.....Cadilac is a hoss and they still have a few play makers on defense.
Dallas has already proven this year they can play down to the paethetic level teams..... as you call them.
True, any team can win on any Sunday but that doesnt mean they arent pathetic. Even the worst teams of all time(89 Cowboys) have won games in a year. The Raiders, Cardinals, Bucs and Lions all have won games but they are still pathetic.
p.s.- cadillac aint exactly an upper echalon back

 

[oceanists]

Right now if i had to choose Eli or Tony it would be Tony and not just because he is my QB, Eli made some STUPID rookie mistake last night and for the majority of the season. Tony made a couple of mistakes when he came out against the Giants in his first real game ... came back next week and on to now without throwing an INT in 99
Attempts longest streak since Troy Aikman in '99. Came back from double digits in the 4th mind you to score more points in the 4th since '76 to beat the Panthers in Carolina , Then set us up to beat the redskin but was let down by special teams, came back beat a team that we honesty should have beaten and then comes and wipes out the Colt.
Eli has done nothing great it has been Tiki Barber from the get go

 

[ruaround]

Originally Posted by emmitt2
True, any team can win on any Sunday but that doesnt mean they arent pathetic. Even the worst teams of all time(89 Cowboys) have won games in a year. The Raiders, Cardinals, Bucs and Lions all have won games but they are still pathetic.
p.s.- cadillac aint exactly an upper echalon back

nor is Barber or Jones... infact this might be the year that Julious FINALLY goes over 1,000 yds rushing... something that Cadillac did his rookie season... ohhh and he also was rookie of the year...

 

[scubadoo]

Originally Posted by ruaround
nor is Barber or Jones... infact this might be the year that Julious FINALLY goes over 1,000 yds rushing... something that Cadillac did his rookie season... ohhh and he also was rookie of the year...
You are correct...neitrher one have the talent of Cadillac..but the COwboys overall have more talent.
Cadillac can not be dismissed as not being a top back. Jones and/or Barber have not proved much as of yet in their career.
Dallas would be a better team...if they had Cadillac in the backfield as opposed to Jones and/or Barber.
He still can rip off a great play..and can be a difference maker in a close game.
I have not followed the Bucs but I saw enough in the two games against the Saints to see he still has the motor running

 

[scubadoo]

I doubt many nfl teams (even one) would settle for a Romo over an Eli Manning if given the choice. Perhaps over time...but right now, I beleive you'd be hard pressed to find one.

 

[scubadoo]

Originally Posted by emmitt2
Agreed, everyone was ooohing and aaaahing Brees 510 yards but he lost that game big time. He threw 2 bad int's in the endzone in the 1st half at 7-0 and 10-7, then threw the int for td at 24-10. Bad decisions definitely cost them but he racked up the yardage and everyone forgot the ints. The defense has to play better though even if you dont turn the ball over. That pass defense looked REALLY bad for most of the game.
If you lose the TO battle you have an 80% chance of losing in the nfl. Depsite the poor play of the secondary, the TO's were the difference in the score.
The only stat that matters is the final score..and who wins the TO battle has an 80% chance of winning the game per nfl stat.
You can not beat many temas in the nfl when you are -2,-3 0r -4 in the TO battle. In my opinion, the TO battle is the singel most imprtant stat after the final score....PERIOD.

 

[emmitt2]

Originally Posted by ruaround
nor is Barber or Jones... infact this might be the year that Julious FINALLY goes over 1,000 yds rushing... something that Cadillac did his rookie season... ohhh and he also was rookie of the year...
Ooooh, rookie of the year! You better remember that since it looks like it will be the crowning acheivement of his career

Cadillac had a good first 3 games last year, then was dinged up as usual. This year, he has been average at BEST and has regressed big time. Julius has always been good when healthy. Granted, he has gotten hurt way too much time his first 2 years but I wouldnt trade him for Cadillac. According to you, we have a horrible o-line, horrible QB and average receivers so Jones must be pretty dang good to put up the numbers that he is with that crappy supporting cast:notsure:
. Combined they give us one of the best ground games in the NFL. Where has Cadillac taken the Bucs ground game this year??? Oh yeah, the toilet!

And the comparison isnt EITHER jones or Barber versus Cadillac. We have BOTH and Cadillac doesnt even compare to the pair of them

 

[emmitt2]

Originally Posted by ScubaDoo
I doubt many nfl teams (even one) would settle for a Romo over an Eli Manning if given the choice. Perhaps over time...but right now, I beleive you'd be hard pressed to find one.
Only because of the name on the back his jersey! Nothing Eli has done on the field this year compared to Romo justifies that statement

Oh and he counts about a billion less on the cap as the "great" Eli

p.s.- i assure you the Cowboys would take Romo over Eli

 

[scubadoo]

Originally Posted by ruaround
the Bucs are 3 - 7... and riddled with injuries... i still like em though...
I picked up Romo on my fantasy team 4 weeks ago... its not killing me that he is having a slightly above average season... and if TO would have caught a few more balls Romos stats would be padded a little more... I also have TO on my fantasy team and it would have helped my team out as well...
The problem with TO is he does not run crisp routes, does not log in the time with his QB after practice and in the off-season and has good hands but not great hands. HE does catch enough balls off the fiels as well....extra work. You will often see him not catch balls cleanly and he lets too many easy passes hit his body. His biggest asset is his after the catch ability which has declined somewhat. SInce 200o, he has always been among the league leaders in dropped passes.
Some of his ex-coaches and players have echoed what I have said.
He probably could have achieved far more if he logged in the time..

 

[scubadoo]

Originally Posted by emmitt2
Only because of the name on the back his jersey! Nothing Eli has done on the field this year compared to Romo justifies that statement

Oh and he counts about a billion less on the cap as the "great" Eli

p.s.- i assure you the Cowboys would take Romo over Eli

Bring me one statemnt from a current GM that is in contrary to what I have said...they would pass on Eli over Romo.