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bionicarm

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/393310/trump#post_3498315
Bush Kerry and Clinton released their transcripts. Like I pointed out in another post it's the fact 0bama is going to such great lengths to keep them hidden that raises the issue. He can make a foolish Trump look like a complete idiot by taking him up on the offer. After looking into 0bama's legislative record back in 2008 I decided he wasn't qualified to be president. Didn't need to see anything beyond that to make my decision.
He's already made Trump look like a fool. Did you watch him on the Tonight Show the other night? Obama is concentrating his effort and time on REAL issues. Romney released his records simply to prove he went where he claimed he did, and maybe to show how well he did in his subjects. You think he released him to prove he was actually a US resident? You know, his Dad was born in Mexico to US citizens. OR WERE THEY? hmmm. Maybe his parents are actually illegals that snuck across the border just to have Mitt over here so he would have a US citizenship!
 

reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/393310/trump/20#post_3498341
He's already made Trump look like a fool. Did you watch him on the Tonight Show the other night? Obama is concentrating his effort and time on REAL issues. Romney released his records simply to prove he went where he claimed he did, and maybe to show how well he did in his subjects. You think he released him to prove he was actually a US resident? You know, his Dad was born in Mexico to US citizens. OR WERE THEY? hmmm. Maybe his parents are actually illegals that snuck across the border just to have Mitt over here so he would have a US citizenship!
Trump doesn't need much help in that department. But "real" issues? LOL! Yeah, OK. Big Bird and Binders. Real.
 

reefraff

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Originally Posted by Jerthunter http:///t/393310/trump/20#post_3498365
Sorry, the correct answer was no, he hasn't
I need to amend and extend my remarks LOL! I had seen Romney's GPA listed before. a google search doesn't turn up any definitive answer one way or another. I was able to find the info below but a search for "mitt romney has (not) released college transcripts doesn't really turn up anything one way or another except for
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brian-levin-jd/all-candidates-president_b_1672388.html
Where he writes "Mitt Romney, who initially hesitated on releasing his tax returns, has apparently released his transcripts. Hopefully, his vice president will as well."
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2007/02/01/10-things-you-didnt-know-about-mitt-romney
"4. Mitt and Ann married on March 21, 1969--four months after he returned from his mission. Future President Gerald Ford was a guest at their wedding. Ann was attending college at Brigham Young University and Mitt transferred there, eventually graduating first in his class in 1971 with a degree in English and a 3.97 GPA. Their first son, Taggart, was born on their first anniversary.
The young couple moved to Boston so Mitt could attend Harvard Law School. He was also accepted into a joint M.B.A. program at Harvard Business School. Their second son, Matthew, was born and in 1975 he graduated cum laude from Harvard Law School and in the top 5 percent of his class at HBS.?"
Seems to me if Romney hadn't released them there would be some mention of it, look at all the reporting on his tax records.
Doesn't change the fact 0bama is missing a golden opportunity here. Gotta wonder what he's hiding.
 

jerthunter

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Plain and simple the answer is no.. Of course there is no reason do, just like there is no reason for Obama to do it.
However, if you insist Obama must have something to hide, it would appear Romney would also be hiding something or else you would have found these phantom records you seem sure exist.
The first article refers to transcripts of his tax returns so that was pointless unless you want to state that he has release fewer records of any modern presidential candidate besides Mccain.
The second article tells you nothing as well. Still no records. What is Romney hiding? I will donate $100 to charity if Romney releases his college records by the close of business today.
 

reefraff

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Originally Posted by Jerthunter http:///t/393310/trump/20#post_3498380
Plain and simple the answer is no.. Of course there is no reason do, just like there is no reason for Obama to do it.
However, if you insist Obama must have something to hide, it would appear Romney would also be hiding something or else you would have found these phantom records you seem sure exist.
The first article refers to transcripts of his tax returns so that was pointless unless you want to state that he has release fewer records of any modern presidential candidate besides Mccain.
The second article tells you nothing as well. Still no records. What is Romney hiding? I will donate $100 to charity if Romney releases his college records by the close of business today.
Plain and simple answer is apparently so according to the Huffington article. Here's the full first half of the paragraph "There are times, however, when even ill-intended or even conspiracy leaning egotists have a point. Such is the case of those, including many disappointed or disbelieving birthers, who have shifted their focus to demanding the release of President Obama's college and law school transcripts. Mitt Romney, who initially hesitated on releasing his tax returns, has apparently released his transcripts. Hopefully, his vice president will as well. Such transcripts, like tax returns and medical records, and some criminal records,
are private by law unless voluntarily waived."
Obviously he's talking about two different things, taxes and college transcripts. Read the bold. I find it hard to believe there wouldn't have been a big deal made if Romney hadn't released them, look at the storm over only releasing 2 years of tax returns.
0bama doesn't have to release them but he should. Just like Romney should have given more tax returns. It would shut people up but in 0bama's case there are 5 million reasons why he should do it, unless he really does have something to hide. In Romney's case he made a lot of money and didn't want to provide 0bama's campaign with any more class warfare ammunition. 0bama has already admitted to hanging out with the radicals and Marxists in school. I can't imagine what else he would want to hide.
 
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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/393310/trump/20#post_3498391
Plain and simple answer is apparently so according to the Huffington article. Here's the full first half of the paragraph "There are times, however, when even ill-intended or even conspiracy leaning egotists have a point. Such is the case of those, including many disappointed or disbelieving birthers, who have shifted their focus to demanding the release of President Obama's college and law school transcripts. Mitt Romney, who initially hesitated on releasing his tax returns, has apparently released his transcripts. Hopefully, his vice president will as well. Such transcripts, like tax returns and medical records, and some criminal records,
are private by law unless voluntarily waived."
Obviously he's talking about two different things, taxes and college transcripts. Read the bold. I find it hard to believe there wouldn't have been a big deal made if Romney hadn't released them, look at the storm over only releasing 2 years of tax returns.
0bama doesn't have to release them but he should. Just like Romney should have given more tax returns. It would shut people up but in 0bama's case there are 5 million reasons why he should do it, unless he really does have something to hide. In Romney's case he made a lot of money and didn't want to provide 0bama's campaign with any more class warfare ammunition. 0bama has already admitted to hanging out with the radicals and Marxists in school. I can't imagine what else he would want to hide.
And what makes you think anyone would believe they were his "real" transcripts? Just like when the long form birth certificate was released, people were saying within the hour that it was clearly a fake. Do you really think playing into Trumps hand would accomplish anything? Do you think that all the sudden some Romney people are going to jump ship and come on board with Obama because he released college records?
If Trump has any information that would shift the election in Romney's favor, he will release it, $5 million or not. So if November 6th comes and goes and you don't hear another peep from Trump, then you can assume (like always) he was just looking for publicity...
 

reefraff

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Originally Posted by TheClemsonKid http:///t/393310/trump/20#post_3498402
And what makes you think anyone would believe they were his "real" transcripts? Just like when the long form birth certificate was released, people were saying within the hour that it was clearly a fake. Do you really think playing into Trumps hand would accomplish anything? Do you think that all the sudden some Romney people are going to jump ship and come on board with Obama because he released college records?
If Trump has any information that would shift the election in Romney's favor, he will release it, $5 million or not. So if November 6th comes and goes and you don't hear another peep from Trump, then you can assume (like always) he was just looking for publicity...
"Playing into trumps hands" would put 5 mill into the charity of 0bama's choice. And you can search 5 years worth of threads here and never find a post of me buying into the birther thing but something is up with the long form certificate that has never been explained. Wrong name for the hospitial, father's country listed as Keyna when it wasn't a country yet. I think it's the same tactic Clinton used to use. You throw just enough red meat to the crazies to keep people focused on their conspiracy theories rather than real issues that matter. That could even be the case with the transcripts, dunno.
 
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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/393310/trump/20#post_3498406
"Playing into trumps hands" would put 5 mill into the charity of 0bama's choice. And you can search 5 years worth of threads here and never find a post of me buying into the birther thing but something is up with the long form certificate that has never been explained. Wrong name for the hospitial, father's country listed as Keyna when it wasn't a country yet. I think it's the same tactic Clinton used to use. You throw just enough red meat to the crazies to keep people focused on their conspiracy theories rather than real issues that matter. That could even be the case with the transcripts, dunno.
The whole birther thing is completely debunked by the fact that there were two papers in Hawaii that listed his birth in 1961. So unless the conspiracy includes time machines I think it's safe to say it's all nonsense. But again, I wouldn't expect these people to believe anything they are told or shown without somehow saying "no". For Obama politically he has ZERO to gain from giving into Trump's offer.
And unless Trump actually releases some damning information about these "transcripts", he's going to look like the jacka** he is. I'm hoping to save face, he decides to donate $5 million to a noble cause anyways, although that would involve him being a decent human being, which I think we all know is a stretch...
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by TheClemsonKid http:///t/393310/trump/20#post_3498411
The whole birther thing is completely debunked by the fact that there were two papers in Hawaii that listed his birth in 1961. So unless the conspiracy includes time machines I think it's safe to say it's all nonsense. But again, I wouldn't expect these people to believe anything they are told or shown without somehow saying "no". For Obama politically he has ZERO to gain from giving into Trump's offer.
And unless Trump actually releases some damning information about these "transcripts", he's going to look like the jacka** he is. I'm hoping to save face, he decides to donate $5 million to a noble cause anyways, although that would involve him being a decent human being, which I think we all know is a stretch...
He claimed on Lettermen that he hopes everything on Obama's record are correct and on the "up and up". He even said he'd donate more if that's would it took for him to release his records. Yea right. The only thing missing in his senserity speech is wearing a shirt promoting his latest Celebrity Apprentice show popping up again next year....
 

jerthunter

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/393310/trump/20#post_3498391
Plain and simple answer is apparently so according to the Huffington article. Here's the full first half of the paragraph "There are times, however, when even ill-intended or even conspiracy leaning egotists have a point. Such is the case of those, including many disappointed or disbelieving birthers, who have shifted their focus to demanding the release of President Obama's college and law school transcripts. Mitt Romney, who initially hesitated on releasing his tax returns, has apparently released his transcripts. Hopefully, his vice president will as well. Such transcripts, like tax returns and medical records, and some criminal records,
are private by law unless voluntarily waived."
Obviously he's talking about two different things, taxes and college transcripts. Read the bold. I find it hard to believe there wouldn't have been a big deal made if Romney hadn't released them, look at the storm over only releasing 2 years of tax returns.
0bama doesn't have to release them but he should. Just like Romney should have given more tax returns. It would shut people up but in 0bama's case there are 5 million reasons why he should do it, unless he really does have something to hide. In Romney's case he made a lot of money and didn't want to provide 0bama's campaign with any more class warfare ammunition. 0bama has already admitted to hanging out with the radicals and Marxists in school. I can't imagine what else he would want to hide.
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You are trying awful hard to connect the dots. Romney has not released his college records. Therefore, based on your attempt at logic, he must be hiding the fact that he is a neo-nazi...
This is completely insane. You mention that one article on the internet refers to "Such transcripts, like.." and buy that as proof that the records are out there. They aren't, seriously, it never happened, because it would be ridiculous to release them, and he didn't. Which is why they aren't there... If they are, SHOW THEM TO ME, and help a charity out. I'll double my initial offer, $200 dollars to charity, just show them to me, do it for charity.
 

darthtang aw

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You are trying awful hard to connect the dots.  Romney has not released his college records.  Therefore, based on your attempt at logic, he must be hiding the fact that he is a neo-nazi...
This is completely insane.  You mention that one article on the internet refers to "Such transcripts, like.." and buy that as proof that the records are out there.  They aren't, seriously, it never happened, because it would be ridiculous to release them, and he didn't.  Which is why they aren't there...  If they are, SHOW THEM TO ME, and help a charity out.  I'll double my initial offer, $200 dollars to charity, just show them to me, do it for charity.
I would settle for Obamas high school transcripts...Romney's are available.
Personally tax returns transcripts and college transcripts are avoiding the elephant in the room issues.
 

jerthunter

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/393310/trump/20#post_3498437
I would settle for Obamas high school transcripts...Romney's are available.
Personally tax returns transcripts and college transcripts are avoiding the elephant in the room issues.
If you are saying Romney's college records are available please show them to me and help me give to charity.
I personally have no idea why you would want anyone's highschool transcripts, but okay.
 

darthtang aw

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If you are saying Romney's college records are available please show them to me and help me give to charity.
Did I say that?
 

reefraff

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Originally Posted by Jerthunter http:///t/393310/trump/20#post_3498419
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You are trying awful hard to connect the dots. Romney has not released his college records. Therefore, based on your attempt at logic, he must be hiding the fact that he is a neo-nazi...
This is completely insane. You mention that one article on the internet refers to "Such transcripts, like.." and buy that as proof that the records are out there. They aren't, seriously, it never happened, because it would be ridiculous to release them, and he didn't. Which is why they aren't there... If they are, SHOW THEM TO ME, and help a charity out. I'll double my initial offer, $200 dollars to charity, just show them to me, do it for charity.
Show me one credible news article that says he hasn't. I googled, Yahoo'd and Binged. I also couldn't find anything that said he had other than the Huffington article. But what is more in your face shocking is if he hasn't there is no reporting calling for him to. I don't believe for a second if he hadn't that the 0bamites wouldn't be calling out the hypocrisy.
But Romney isn't the issue here. Nobody made the offer to him. 0bama is obviously hiding something. I've heard the claim he used a program for foreign students to get into occidental, also heard he got some sort of favorable deal to get into law school because he didn't do well at occidental and didn't have the grades. Who knows.... Might be something as lame as he flunked political science. He said during his party days he didn't do well in school.
 

jerthunter

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Show me one credible news article that says he hasn't. I googled, Yahoo'd and Binged. I also couldn't find anything that said he had other than the Huffington article. But what is more in your face shocking is if he hasn't there is no reporting calling for him to. I don't believe for a second if he hadn't that the 0bamites wouldn't be calling out the hypocrisy.
But Romney isn't the issue here. Nobody made the offer to him. 0bama is obviously hiding something. I've heard the claim he used a program for foreign students to get into occidental, also heard he got some sort of favorable deal to get into law school because he didn't do well at occidental and didn't have the grades. Who knows....  Might be something as lame as he flunked political science. He said during his party days he didn't do well in school.
It is a little harder to prove a negative. But regarding a claim about Romney, I made one, plus I, made an offer.
 

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