ufos, need opions
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sharkboy13
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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
Forget Sharkboy, I want to see pics of this...
oooh jeez dont i feel luvd
Forget Sharkboy, I want to see pics of this...
oooh jeez dont i feel luvd
1journeyman
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Originally Posted by Sharkboy13
oooh jeez dont i feel luvd
Lol, come on... You have pics of some lights... but folks moving a UFO? That's huge!
oooh jeez dont i feel luvd
Lol, come on... You have pics of some lights... but folks moving a UFO? That's huge!
sharkboy13
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well, an explanation of the ufos, i saw the lights again, i asked the neighborhood cop to investigate, it turns out a few kids from a neighborhood over took some remote control helicopters and put flashlights on them and flew them in formation. imo it sounded sketchy but i wasnt going to question him since he had done enough (investigating off duty and all) tho my lights wer just "helicopters" i still am a believer, always have, always will...
pontius
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Originally Posted by Sharkboy13
well, an explanation of the ufos, i saw the lights again, i asked the neighborhood cop to investigate, it turns out a few kids from a neighborhood over took some remote control helicopters and put flashlights on them and flew them in formation. imo it sounded sketchy but i wasnt going to question him since he had done enough (investigating off duty and all) tho my lights wer just "helicopters" i still am a believer, always have, always will...
lol, that's the story now? that's not toy helicopter lights. sorry, that's white dots from ms paint. I don't know anything about toy -- helicopters, but I don't think they fly anywhere near that high and I've never seen one that could be flown steady enough so that 6 of them could fly in a tight formation. if that were little toy helicopter lights, you probably wouldn't even be able to see them from as high up as the appear to be, and no way would they be shining that brilliantly.
I'm not saying I don't believe in life. with billions of other planets, there certainly MUST be other life. but everytime you try to explain these pics, you're insinuating that we all must be stupid.
well, an explanation of the ufos, i saw the lights again, i asked the neighborhood cop to investigate, it turns out a few kids from a neighborhood over took some remote control helicopters and put flashlights on them and flew them in formation. imo it sounded sketchy but i wasnt going to question him since he had done enough (investigating off duty and all) tho my lights wer just "helicopters" i still am a believer, always have, always will...
lol, that's the story now? that's not toy helicopter lights. sorry, that's white dots from ms paint. I don't know anything about toy -- helicopters, but I don't think they fly anywhere near that high and I've never seen one that could be flown steady enough so that 6 of them could fly in a tight formation. if that were little toy helicopter lights, you probably wouldn't even be able to see them from as high up as the appear to be, and no way would they be shining that brilliantly.
I'm not saying I don't believe in life. with billions of other planets, there certainly MUST be other life. but everytime you try to explain these pics, you're insinuating that we all must be stupid.
1journeyman
Active Member
Originally Posted by Sharkboy13
well, an explanation of the ufos, i saw the lights again, i asked the neighborhood cop to investigate, it turns out a few kids from a neighborhood over took some remote control helicopters and put flashlights on them and flew them in formation. imo it sounded sketchy but i wasnt going to question him since he had done enough (investigating off duty and all) tho my lights wer just "helicopters" i still am a believer, always have, always will...
Those kids need to go to work for the US military flying unmanned drones if they can fly -- helicopters in formation that tight at night.... Also, those are some significant helicopters to fly steady with large flashlights attached.
well, an explanation of the ufos, i saw the lights again, i asked the neighborhood cop to investigate, it turns out a few kids from a neighborhood over took some remote control helicopters and put flashlights on them and flew them in formation. imo it sounded sketchy but i wasnt going to question him since he had done enough (investigating off duty and all) tho my lights wer just "helicopters" i still am a believer, always have, always will...
Those kids need to go to work for the US military flying unmanned drones if they can fly -- helicopters in formation that tight at night.... Also, those are some significant helicopters to fly steady with large flashlights attached.
aztec reef
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Well let me do a search. didn't you watch part of this video in National Geografic channel (i don't remember what the show's name was, but it was about ufos) the rest is classified. i'm serious
sharkboy13
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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
Those kids need to go to work for the US military flying unmanned drones if they can fly -- helicopters in formation that tight at night.... Also, those are some significant helicopters to fly steady with large flashlights attached.
thats what i said, but like said i wasnt gonna question him
Those kids need to go to work for the US military flying unmanned drones if they can fly -- helicopters in formation that tight at night.... Also, those are some significant helicopters to fly steady with large flashlights attached.
thats what i said, but like said i wasnt gonna question him
aztec reef
Active Member
ok, here's the story,
Now let me find the video.. i have it personally but let me see if i can find it on the NET..
UFO Crash
Mexico 1974
On the evening of 25th August 1974 the US Air Defense radar detected a UFO about to cross into American airspace coming up from the Golf of Mexico. The object was tracked at speeds of up to 2500 mph at an altitude of 75,000 feet. Continuing on this course the object would enter US airspace over Texas.
At first it was thought that the object may be a meteor. However while over Mexico the UFO leveled at 45,000 feet, descended to 20,000 feet, leveling for 5 minutes at each altitude. After tracking the object for about a minute the UFO slowed to 1900 mph and began to descend and turn at the same time. The descent was “stepped” and not curved as a meteor would have been. Also the speed of the object changed, a meteor would not have changed speed on descent, i.e. slowed.
On entering Mexican airspace about 40 miles south of Brownsville, Texas, the US continued to track the object until it disappeared from the radar screens close to the town of Coyame, in the state of Chihuahua.
Two military radar stations tracked the object while it made its descent. When the UFO disappeared from the radar it was assumed that it had just gone below the radars detection range. No one expected this to be a UFO crash landing. The object failed to return onto the radar screens.
Fifty two minutes after the UFO disappeared from radar the first indication that a civilian aircraft had come down in the same vicinity was noted via civilian radio communications. Both the civilian aircraft and UFO had been in the same airspace at the same time. The civilian aircraft had been on route from El Paso to Mexico City and could not have been the same object that was tracked across the Gulf of Mexico.
Early the following morning, after the UFO crash, the Mexican authorities started the search for the missing aircraft. At about 10.30 a.m. a report came over the radio that the wreckage of the plane had been found. At about the same time a further report was of made that a second aircraft was on the ground a couple of miles away from the first. This second aircraft was circular in shape, in one piece and only slightly damaged. A few minutes later a radio silence on all search activity was ordered by the Mexican military.
Radio intercepts were made by the CIA and by maybe two or three other US agencies, it is thought that the intercepts refered to a UFO crash landing rather than to the civilian aircraft going down. This has never been confirmed.
A recovery team that included three Huey helicopters and one Sea Stallion helicopter was assembled. Such was the speed by the US to assemble the team, it is believed this was not the first time such an incident had taken place.
The Mexican government refused requests from the US to allow the recovery team to cross the border to investigate the UFO crash and to assist in the recovery efforts. The Mexican authorities denied the UFO incident, they said they were "investigating a plane crash."
By 9.00 p.m. the following day the US recovery team had been assembled at Fort Bliss along with unmarked helicopters, all in a secured area ready to go to the UFO crash site.
Recognizance flights earlier that day revealed that the debris had been moved from both the UFO crash site and the aircraft's crash site. The UFO had been loaded onto a flatbed truck. The convoy was seen heading south.
The next day the US had to decide whether or not to send the recovery team in. Later recognizance flights revealed that the convoy had stopped in the desert. With no radio activity, unusual considering the circumstances, a lower altitude recognizance flight was ordered. Recognizance photos taken showed the convoy halted, with truck doors open and two bodies lying in the dirt near the trucks.
With this new turn of events the order was given to send in the recovery team. It took the four helicopters more than two hours to reach the convoy, what they found would make a lasting impression. When the team arrived at the scene they found that all of the Mexican team were dead. The majority of the bodies were still in the vehicles.
Members of the US team dressed in biochemical protection suits strapped the UFO onto a cable ready to be hoisted away by the Sea Stallion helicopter. They then proceeded to destroy with explosives, all of the convoys vehicles including the bodies and the remaining wreckage of the civilian aircraft. In under an hour the recovery team had recovered the UFO and “cleaned up” the scene.
On returning over the US border the UFO was transferred to a sealed lorry for transportation to Atlanta, Georgia. Other reports suggest the UFO was transferred to Wright-Patterson AF Base, or possibly an unnamed base. One possible destination may have been Area 51............
UFO Crash
Mexico 1974
On the evening of 25th August 1974 the US Air Defense radar detected a UFO about to cross into American airspace coming up from the Golf of Mexico. The object was tracked at speeds of up to 2500 mph at an altitude of 75,000 feet. Continuing on this course the object would enter US airspace over Texas.
At first it was thought that the object may be a meteor. However while over Mexico the UFO leveled at 45,000 feet, descended to 20,000 feet, leveling for 5 minutes at each altitude. After tracking the object for about a minute the UFO slowed to 1900 mph and began to descend and turn at the same time. The descent was “stepped” and not curved as a meteor would have been. Also the speed of the object changed, a meteor would not have changed speed on descent, i.e. slowed.
On entering Mexican airspace about 40 miles south of Brownsville, Texas, the US continued to track the object until it disappeared from the radar screens close to the town of Coyame, in the state of Chihuahua.
Two military radar stations tracked the object while it made its descent. When the UFO disappeared from the radar it was assumed that it had just gone below the radars detection range. No one expected this to be a UFO crash landing. The object failed to return onto the radar screens.
Fifty two minutes after the UFO disappeared from radar the first indication that a civilian aircraft had come down in the same vicinity was noted via civilian radio communications. Both the civilian aircraft and UFO had been in the same airspace at the same time. The civilian aircraft had been on route from El Paso to Mexico City and could not have been the same object that was tracked across the Gulf of Mexico.
Early the following morning, after the UFO crash, the Mexican authorities started the search for the missing aircraft. At about 10.30 a.m. a report came over the radio that the wreckage of the plane had been found. At about the same time a further report was of made that a second aircraft was on the ground a couple of miles away from the first. This second aircraft was circular in shape, in one piece and only slightly damaged. A few minutes later a radio silence on all search activity was ordered by the Mexican military.
Radio intercepts were made by the CIA and by maybe two or three other US agencies, it is thought that the intercepts refered to a UFO crash landing rather than to the civilian aircraft going down. This has never been confirmed.
A recovery team that included three Huey helicopters and one Sea Stallion helicopter was assembled. Such was the speed by the US to assemble the team, it is believed this was not the first time such an incident had taken place.
The Mexican government refused requests from the US to allow the recovery team to cross the border to investigate the UFO crash and to assist in the recovery efforts. The Mexican authorities denied the UFO incident, they said they were "investigating a plane crash."
By 9.00 p.m. the following day the US recovery team had been assembled at Fort Bliss along with unmarked helicopters, all in a secured area ready to go to the UFO crash site.
Recognizance flights earlier that day revealed that the debris had been moved from both the UFO crash site and the aircraft's crash site. The UFO had been loaded onto a flatbed truck. The convoy was seen heading south.
The next day the US had to decide whether or not to send the recovery team in. Later recognizance flights revealed that the convoy had stopped in the desert. With no radio activity, unusual considering the circumstances, a lower altitude recognizance flight was ordered. Recognizance photos taken showed the convoy halted, with truck doors open and two bodies lying in the dirt near the trucks.
With this new turn of events the order was given to send in the recovery team. It took the four helicopters more than two hours to reach the convoy, what they found would make a lasting impression. When the team arrived at the scene they found that all of the Mexican team were dead. The majority of the bodies were still in the vehicles.
Members of the US team dressed in biochemical protection suits strapped the UFO onto a cable ready to be hoisted away by the Sea Stallion helicopter. They then proceeded to destroy with explosives, all of the convoys vehicles including the bodies and the remaining wreckage of the civilian aircraft. In under an hour the recovery team had recovered the UFO and “cleaned up” the scene.
On returning over the US border the UFO was transferred to a sealed lorry for transportation to Atlanta, Georgia. Other reports suggest the UFO was transferred to Wright-Patterson AF Base, or possibly an unnamed base. One possible destination may have been Area 51............
aztec reef
Active Member
here's the rest.........The UFO is said to have been a little over 16 feet in diameter and 5 feet high. Looking like two upside down saucers joined together. The disk was silver in color with no visible windows or doors. No means of propulsion could be identified. The craft had sustained some damage in the crash, a hole about a foot across, and a dent about 2 feet across. It is not clear if anything could be seen “inside the hole.”
What caused the deaths of the Mexican recovery team is not known. The US team seems prepared for this kind of incident. The one thing they did not do is transport the bodies of the Mexican team back to the US. This could have either been because they did not have the equipment with them to launch a full scale chemical recovery operation, or the order of the day was “to destroy all evidence”.
There are no FAA documents relating to the civilian aircraft crash, however this is not surprising if the aircraft's flight plan was not logged to fly into US airspace.
This makes a great story, but is it true?
No documentation has ever been released by either the Mexican or US governments about this UFO crash. All of this is taken from rumor and the telling of the story over and over again. Until documentation about this event is made available to the public the truth may never be known.
What caused the deaths of the Mexican recovery team is not known. The US team seems prepared for this kind of incident. The one thing they did not do is transport the bodies of the Mexican team back to the US. This could have either been because they did not have the equipment with them to launch a full scale chemical recovery operation, or the order of the day was “to destroy all evidence”.
There are no FAA documents relating to the civilian aircraft crash, however this is not surprising if the aircraft's flight plan was not logged to fly into US airspace.
This makes a great story, but is it true?
No documentation has ever been released by either the Mexican or US governments about this UFO crash. All of this is taken from rumor and the telling of the story over and over again. Until documentation about this event is made available to the public the truth may never be known.
aztec reef
Active Member
yeah, the weird thing is that in National Geographic channel they showed "part" of the real video, it wasn't science fiction or Animation and back in 1974 i don't think they had great video Editing skills..Also is kind of funny how they came up with this great story and there's a video to see it..great Movie! i guess..
renogaw
Active Member
sharkboy--we all know you made this up. the easiest way out of this so you don't look any more silly is to just come out and say it. we sorta expect these types of things from the younger croud. you may learn eventually that lying is a lot harder than telling the truth, and that adults aren't as stupid as you and your friends think we are 
aztec reef
Active Member
still no luck whith that video, but i came across another funny article.
Mexico 501 Air Squadron
captures UFO Images
On the 5th March 2004, at bout 3.00 p.m., the Mexico 501 Air Squadron captured UFO Images while on routine air patrol looking for drug smuggling aircraft along the South American boarder. They picked up on radar what they thought to be an aircraft. The object was flying erratically at speeds in excess of 380 mph.
The crew turned on the aircrafts infrared camera and recorded some unusual UFO footage. What they filmed could be seen on the camera but not with the
[hr]
eye…
Running low on fuel they had no choice but to turn back and head for home. Keeping the infrared camera going what they saw astounded the crew. The UFO images filmed, up to 11 objects, could be seen travelling in a line, and on the same altitude as the air patrol. The objects turned and started to surround the plane, the crews comments were recorded as follows:
“Fasten your seat belts.”
“Don’t scare me.”
“It’s going along our altitude, it can’t be possible.”
“Gentlemen we are not alone.”
“Yes, we are not alone its true. How strange is this”
“They are surrounding us”
Then suddenly the balls of light disappeared.
Over the coming weeks the Mexican military conducted an investigation, interviewing the crew and analyzing the infrared UFO images along with weather data for that day. All their efforts came to nothing. The investigation seemed to come to a stand still.
Then out of the blue journalist Jamie Maussan received an unusual phone call from the Mexican military. They had contacted Maussan to ask him to run a full investigation into the incident. In an unprecedented turn of events all the classified data the military had gathered, including the infrared film was handed over to Maussan. He was also granted full access to interview the flight crew.
On the 11th May Maussan held a press conference to show the world the UFO images. No explanation has ever been established as to what the crew of the patrol aircraft had seen.
Skeptics believe the UFO sighting to have been flames from oil wells off the coast, however expert examination the infrared footage determined the objects were comprised of solid mass and could not be flames.
The unprecedented release of classified material from a government to an investigative journalist is by some seen to be a change in attitude by governments to allow the general public to investigate UFO sightings for themselves. Many think this is a first step in handing over such investigations to the public domain. Only time will tell.
Mexico 501 Air Squadron
captures UFO Images
On the 5th March 2004, at bout 3.00 p.m., the Mexico 501 Air Squadron captured UFO Images while on routine air patrol looking for drug smuggling aircraft along the South American boarder. They picked up on radar what they thought to be an aircraft. The object was flying erratically at speeds in excess of 380 mph.
The crew turned on the aircrafts infrared camera and recorded some unusual UFO footage. What they filmed could be seen on the camera but not with the
[hr]
eye…
Running low on fuel they had no choice but to turn back and head for home. Keeping the infrared camera going what they saw astounded the crew. The UFO images filmed, up to 11 objects, could be seen travelling in a line, and on the same altitude as the air patrol. The objects turned and started to surround the plane, the crews comments were recorded as follows:
“Fasten your seat belts.”
“Don’t scare me.”
“It’s going along our altitude, it can’t be possible.”
“Gentlemen we are not alone.”
“Yes, we are not alone its true. How strange is this”
“They are surrounding us”
Then suddenly the balls of light disappeared.
Over the coming weeks the Mexican military conducted an investigation, interviewing the crew and analyzing the infrared UFO images along with weather data for that day. All their efforts came to nothing. The investigation seemed to come to a stand still.
Then out of the blue journalist Jamie Maussan received an unusual phone call from the Mexican military. They had contacted Maussan to ask him to run a full investigation into the incident. In an unprecedented turn of events all the classified data the military had gathered, including the infrared film was handed over to Maussan. He was also granted full access to interview the flight crew.
On the 11th May Maussan held a press conference to show the world the UFO images. No explanation has ever been established as to what the crew of the patrol aircraft had seen.
Skeptics believe the UFO sighting to have been flames from oil wells off the coast, however expert examination the infrared footage determined the objects were comprised of solid mass and could not be flames.
The unprecedented release of classified material from a government to an investigative journalist is by some seen to be a change in attitude by governments to allow the general public to investigate UFO sightings for themselves. Many think this is a first step in handing over such investigations to the public domain. Only time will tell.
aztec reef
Active Member
List of Alien Bodies Allegedly In the Possession of the United States Government
Disclaimer: Mystical Universe, nor its staff, makes no claims to the validity of the following facts.
Date of Occurrence
Location of UFO Crash
Number of Aliens Recovered
July 22, 1947
Roswell, New Mexico
4 Alien Bodies Recovered
Feb 13th, 1948
Aztec, New Mexico
12 Alien Bodies Recovered
July 7th, 1948
Mexico, South of Laredo, Texas
1 Alien Body Recovered
1952 (no m/d given)
Spitzbergen, Norway
2 Alien Bodies Recovered
Sept 10th, 1950
Albuquerque, New Mexico
3 Alien Bodies
August 14th, 1952
Ely, Neveda
16 Alien Bodies
April 18th, 1953
South West Arizona
No Bodies Recovered
May 20th, 1953
Kingman, Arizona
1 Alien Body Recovered
June 19th, 1953
Laredo, Texas
4 Alien Bodies Recovered
July 10th, 1953
South Africa
5 Alien Bodies Recovered
October 13th, 1953
Dutton, Montana
4 Alien Bodies Recovered
May 5th, 1955
Brighton, England
4 Alien Bodies Recovered
July 18th, 1957
Carlsbad, New Mexico
4 Alien Bodies Recovered
June 12th, 1962
Holloman AFB, New Mexico
2 Bodies Recovered
November 10th, 1964
Fort Riley, Kansas
9 Alien Bodies Recovered
October 27th, 1966
North West Arizona
1 Alien Body Recovered
1966 to 1968
5 Crashes in In. / Ky./ Oh. areas
3 Alien Bodies, 1 Craft Recovered
July 18th, 1972
Sahara Desert, Morroco
3 Alien Bodies Recovered
July 10th, 1973
North West Arizona
5 Alien Bodies Recovered
May 12th, 1976
Australian Desert
4 Alien Bodies Recovered
June 22nd, 1977
North West Arizona
5 Alien Bodies Recovered
April 5th, 1977
South West Ohio
11 Alien Bodies Recovered
August 17th, 1977
Tobasco, Mexico
2 Alien Bodies Recovered
May, 1978
Bolivia
No Bodies Recovered
November, 1988
Afghanistan
7 Alien Bodies Recovered
May, 1989
South Africa
2 Living Aliens Recovered
June. 1989
UFO & 2 Aliens transported to Wright Patterson AFB from S. Africa
No other details available
July. 1989
Siberia
9 Living Aliens Recovered
If the above facts are true, and I were an Alien, I would stay away from Arizona and
New Mexico in the months of June, July and August. It also looks like the year of 1953
was good, unless you were an Alien, for UFO crashes.....
Disclaimer: Mystical Universe, nor its staff, makes no claims to the validity of the following facts.
Date of Occurrence
Location of UFO Crash
Number of Aliens Recovered
July 22, 1947
Roswell, New Mexico
4 Alien Bodies Recovered
Feb 13th, 1948
Aztec, New Mexico
12 Alien Bodies Recovered
July 7th, 1948
Mexico, South of Laredo, Texas
1 Alien Body Recovered
1952 (no m/d given)
Spitzbergen, Norway
2 Alien Bodies Recovered
Sept 10th, 1950
Albuquerque, New Mexico
3 Alien Bodies
August 14th, 1952
Ely, Neveda
16 Alien Bodies
April 18th, 1953
South West Arizona
No Bodies Recovered
May 20th, 1953
Kingman, Arizona
1 Alien Body Recovered
June 19th, 1953
Laredo, Texas
4 Alien Bodies Recovered
July 10th, 1953
South Africa
5 Alien Bodies Recovered
October 13th, 1953
Dutton, Montana
4 Alien Bodies Recovered
May 5th, 1955
Brighton, England
4 Alien Bodies Recovered
July 18th, 1957
Carlsbad, New Mexico
4 Alien Bodies Recovered
June 12th, 1962
Holloman AFB, New Mexico
2 Bodies Recovered
November 10th, 1964
Fort Riley, Kansas
9 Alien Bodies Recovered
October 27th, 1966
North West Arizona
1 Alien Body Recovered
1966 to 1968
5 Crashes in In. / Ky./ Oh. areas
3 Alien Bodies, 1 Craft Recovered
July 18th, 1972
Sahara Desert, Morroco
3 Alien Bodies Recovered
July 10th, 1973
North West Arizona
5 Alien Bodies Recovered
May 12th, 1976
Australian Desert
4 Alien Bodies Recovered
June 22nd, 1977
North West Arizona
5 Alien Bodies Recovered
April 5th, 1977
South West Ohio
11 Alien Bodies Recovered
August 17th, 1977
Tobasco, Mexico
2 Alien Bodies Recovered
May, 1978
Bolivia
No Bodies Recovered
November, 1988
Afghanistan
7 Alien Bodies Recovered
May, 1989
South Africa
2 Living Aliens Recovered
June. 1989
UFO & 2 Aliens transported to Wright Patterson AFB from S. Africa
No other details available
July. 1989
Siberia
9 Living Aliens Recovered
If the above facts are true, and I were an Alien, I would stay away from Arizona and
New Mexico in the months of June, July and August. It also looks like the year of 1953
was good, unless you were an Alien, for UFO crashes.....
aztec reef
Active Member
Ok, im done... i just wanted to say one last thing. There's an interesting video on youtube. " UFO's Stanton Friedman's Revelation". look it up. If you still have doubts just remember this: the year 2012....only time will tell.. btw..he's a physicist.