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bionicarm

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Originally Posted by mantisman51 http:///t/390399/want-a-gun-just-buy-it-on-craigslist/120#post_3502172
I guess basic English eludes him...as well as common sense and logic. Rather justify the person breaking the law, I demonstrated your attitude makes the simple act of owning a firearm EQUAL TO a crime, not justifying a crime. Now, maybe you get it, Mo er Bionic.
Sorry, your Redneck NRA language still doesn't make any sense to a logical and reasonable person. Try again..
 

reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/390399/want-a-gun-just-buy-it-on-craigslist/120#post_3502173
But why are those taxes there? Oh, that's right. It's that elusive and ficticious environmental issue that we don't seem to have a problem with. No one forces you to buy alcohol. Don't want to pay taxes on gases and oil? Don't drive a vehicle. Ride a bike. Of course deforestation isn't a problem. There's plenty of trees to go around.
Why are those taxes there? I have no issue with where the fishing tackle tax goes nor the gas and tire taxes. I do have a problem with the deceptive way the government levies them and other hidden taxes. With the exception of the gas tax these are all recent additions, within the last 30 years or so. Yet we have lapdog liberals continue to spread the lie about historically low tax rates. They also ignore all the deductions and accounting techniques that have been taken away that used to lower effective rates far below that 70 percent number you libs like to throw around.
The private forest industry plants more trees a year by accident than the government does on purpose. They'd be out of business if they didn't and they have done that for generations.
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/390399/want-a-gun-just-buy-it-on-craigslist/140#post_3502177
Why are those taxes there? I have no issue with where the fishing tackle tax goes nor the gas and tire taxes. I do have a problem with the deceptive way the government levies them and other hidden taxes. With the exception of the gas tax these are all recent additions, within the last 30 years or so. Yet we have lapdog liberals continue to spread the lie about historically low tax rates. They also ignore all the deductions and accounting techniques that have been taken away that used to lower effective rates far below that 70 percent number you libs like to throw around.
The private forest industry plants more trees a year by accident than the government does on purpose. They'd be out of business if they didn't and they have done that for generations.
Here's a nice list of your hidden taxes. What's the bottom line for there being so many taxes? Reduction of the deficit. Paying local infrastructure and other operational costs for states and cities. San Antonio has one of the highest hotel and car rental taxes in the state. Why? In order to keep the Spurs in town, they demanded a new stadium. The city and county didn't have the funds to build it, and couldn't find a big enough Corporate sponsor to kick the money in. So the county and city raised the hotel and car rental taxes by 3% - 5%, and all that revenue went to building a fancy new stadium for the Spurs, rock concerts, Rodeo, and even Ice Hockey to play in. San Antonians are happy because the money doesn't come out of our pocket. Instead we hose the visitors and convention planners and have them pay for it. Win/Win for us.
If you were to reduce or eliminate any or all of these taxes, where do you get the revenue to make up the difference? The money has to come from somewhere. Disperse the expense to everyone instead of a select few paying the burden. I suppose you could try getting rid of every single tax, and implement a National Sales Tax. Be interesting to run the theoretical numbers to see which program would generate the most revenue, and who would be most affected by its implementation.
http://www.ipi.org/ipi_issues/detail/hidden-taxes-how-much-do-you-really-pay
 

reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/390399/want-a-gun-just-buy-it-on-craigslist/140#post_3502195
Here's a nice list of your hidden taxes. What's the bottom line for there being so many taxes? Reduction of the deficit. Paying local infrastructure and other operational costs for states and cities. San Antonio has one of the highest hotel and car rental taxes in the state. Why? In order to keep the Spurs in town, they demanded a new stadium. The city and county didn't have the funds to build it, and couldn't find a big enough Corporate sponsor to kick the money in. So the county and city raised the hotel and car rental taxes by 3% - 5%, and all that revenue went to building a fancy new stadium for the Spurs, rock concerts, Rodeo, and even Ice Hockey to play in. San Antonians are happy because the money doesn't come out of our pocket. Instead we hose the visitors and convention planners and have them pay for it. Win/Win for us.
If you were to reduce or eliminate any or all of these taxes, where do you get the revenue to make up the difference? The money has to come from somewhere. Disperse the expense to everyone instead of a select few paying the burden. I suppose you could try getting rid of every single tax, and implement a National Sales Tax. Be interesting to run the theoretical numbers to see which program would generate the most revenue, and who would be most affected by its implementation.
http://www.ipi.org/ipi_issues/detail/hidden-taxes-how-much-do-you-really-pay
Did I say eliminate all of them? I say list them PLAINLY so people can see what we are being taxed for. Maybe once they see how much they are being taxed they'll decide things like foreign aid paid to countries that hate us or a few hundred grand for a experiment to make a shrimp run on a treadmill isn't much of a priority. It happens all the way down to local government. They'll put up a bond issue to build a library or school addition but things like trips to sister cities and half million dollar prairie dog tunnels come out of the regular budget.
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/390399/want-a-gun-just-buy-it-on-craigslist/140#post_3502209
Did I say eliminate all of them? I say list them PLAINLY so people can see what we are being taxed for. Maybe once they see how much they are being taxed they'll decide things like foreign aid paid to countries that hate us or a few hundred grand for a experiment to make a shrimp run on a treadmill isn't much of a priority. It happens all the way down to local government. They'll put up a bond issue to build a library or school addition but things like trips to sister cities and half million dollar prairie dog tunnels come out of the regular budget.
Every tax that is charged for anything is available through the Open Records Act. Half of the taxes are voted on by the people, then after it's implemented they complain about taxes going up. San Antonio just approved a 1/8 cents sales tax hike to pay for a new Pre-K initiative that our illustrious mayor wanted that will only benefit a very small sector of our local population. We jacked up our sales tax about 15 years ago by 1/4 of a cent to build this white elephant football stadium that anyone with a brain knew would never be used to support a professional football team. Of course that's how the mayor at that time promoted that sales tax hike. What was comical (but sad) was they used this "reverse logic" on the ballot when it came up for the vote. If you voted "No", it meant that you were voting NOT to go against the initiative, and you wanted the 1/4 cent tax hike for the stadium. Needles to say, there was mass confusion with a majority of our "not so intelligent" voters, and it passed with flying colors. They built the stupid thing, and it was already below NFL standards before the last rivet was put in. Cowboys used it for training camp, the Saints used it as a "home" stadium after Katrina for a couple of games, and the Spurs used it for a couple of seasons while their fancy aforementioned stadium was built. Other than that until recently, it's been used for concerts, Home and Garden shows, Monster Truck shows, and local high school football game playoffs. The Dome got somewhat of a reprieve when our local Div. I college, UTSA, just signed a new lease to use the facility for all it's home football games until 2035. We played in the WAC this season, and are moving to Conference USA next year. So I guess in the long run it worked out. How many other small schools do you know of get to play in an 65,000 seat indoor domed stadium for their home football games?
 

reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/390399/want-a-gun-just-buy-it-on-craigslist/140#post_3502227
Every tax that is charged for anything is available through the Open Records Act. Half of the taxes are voted on by the people, then after it's implemented they complain about taxes going up. San Antonio just approved a 1/8 cents sales tax hike to pay for a new Pre-K initiative that our illustrious mayor wanted that will only benefit a very small sector of our local population. We jacked up our sales tax about 15 years ago by 1/4 of a cent to build this white elephant football stadium that anyone with a brain knew would never be used to support a professional football team. Of course that's how the mayor at that time promoted that sales tax hike. What was comical (but sad) was they used this "reverse logic" on the ballot when it came up for the vote. If you voted "No", it meant that you were voting NOT to go against the initiative, and you wanted the 1/4 cent tax hike for the stadium. Needles to say, there was mass confusion with a majority of our "not so intelligent" voters, and it passed with flying colors. They built the stupid thing, and it was already below NFL standards before the last rivet was put in. Cowboys used it for training camp, the Saints used it as a "home" stadium after Katrina for a couple of games, and the Spurs used it for a couple of seasons while their fancy aforementioned stadium was built. Other than that until recently, it's been used for concerts, Home and Garden shows, Monster Truck shows, and local high school football game playoffs. The Dome got somewhat of a reprieve when our local Div. I college, UTSA, just signed a new lease to use the facility for all it's home football games until 2035. We played in the WAC this season, and are moving to Conference USA next year. So I guess in the long run it worked out. How many other small schools do you know of get to play in an 65,000 seat indoor domed stadium for their home football games?
I remember when California's income tax was 5 percent. Then they bumped it to 6. Then there was a "temporary" earthquake tax. Then it reverted to a "wildfire" tax. Not sure what they are calling it now but it's still there 20 some odd years later. Colorado is weird. 3.75 state tax and the rest is individual city and country taxes. In this town the total is 7.75.
The politicians are trying an end around on the taxpayer bill of rights here. It requires we the people to vote on tax increases. A group of politicians wants to sue saying it violates the Republican form of government by not allowing the legislature to set the taxes at whatever rate they wish. Jerks! Our state income tax is 5.75% which I think is fair. Property taxes on my 30 year old house I paid 178K for is about 1200.00 a year. All in all I like where it is but if they throw out TABOR I'll be antsy to get out of here.
 

mantisman51

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Funny, no one knew they were using the universal telephone tax to pay for cell phones for anyone who wanted one until the news stories about people started bragging about their "Obama phones". The story only appeared on Fox since the other stations wouldn't cover it. Yeah, that little gem started out as a tax to fund the Spanish-American War. So it is not a hidden tax, but it is a damned sneaky tax.
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/390399/want-a-gun-just-buy-it-on-craigslist/140#post_3502230
I remember when California's income tax was 5 percent. Then they bumped it to 6. Then there was a "temporary" earthquake tax. Then it reverted to a "wildfire" tax. Not sure what they are calling it now but it's still there 20 some odd years later. Colorado is weird. 3.75 state tax and the rest is individual city and country taxes. In this town the total is 7.75.
The politicians are trying an end around on the taxpayer bill of rights here. It requires we the people to vote on tax increases. A group of politicians wants to sue saying it violates the Republican form of government by not allowing the legislature to set the taxes at whatever rate they wish. Jerks! Our state income tax is 5.75% which I think is fair. Property taxes on my 30 year old house I paid 178K for is about 1200.00 a year. All in all I like where it is but if they throw out TABOR I'll be antsy to get out of here.
I'd consider Colorado a "retirement state". We don't have a state income tax in Texas, but our local property taxes can range from 3% up to 6% annually based on appraised value of the home. Of course the local appraisal districts overinflate the value of the home every year, and it takes an act of Congress to get them to reduce it unless you had unsurmountable proof they're wrong. My appraisal has gone up 3% - 5% every year I've owned it. I know for a fact I couldn't get anywhere near what they claim it's worth. They do this supposed "study" whereby they average out recent home sales in your area or subdivision, and use the cost per square feet of those sales to access the value on all the other homes. So they can claim a select group of homes sold for $80/sq. ft. in your area, so they multiply that amount to your square footage, and that's how much your house is supposedly worth. Problem is, you don't know what was done to these homes in order for them to get that $80 sq. ft. price. You could have a 2000 sq. ft home that was only worth $120K initiually, but the homeowner dropped $20K into improvements to get the value up to $160K. The appraiser should've valued the home at the intial $120K before the improvements to get a more realistic value of the home.
 

darthtang aw

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Funny, no one knew they were using the universal telephone tax to pay for cell phones for anyone who wanted one until the news stories about people started bragging about their "Obama phones". The story only appeared on Fox since the other stations wouldn't cover it. Yeah, that little gem started out as a tax to fund the Spanish-American War. So it is not a hidden tax, but it is a damned sneaky tax.
Those aren't "Obama phones". That piece of legislature was signed into law by Bush. Those are "Bush phones" handed out after Obama became president.
 

mantisman51

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Ok. The people getting them were singing praises to their Messiah and calling them "Obama phones". But it doesn't surprise me. Bush was almost a RINO domestically. Borrow and spend.
 
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