Want a gun? Just buy it on Craigslist

billaritesbri

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You should be able to buy a gun on Craigslist, why not as long as all the right procedures that the federal goverment require's ( got that federal not state, state has no say in the matter, neither does county or city) the second ammendment is a federal issue ( Chicago who the h#ll do they think they are More Taxes) THE WHOLE problem with acquiring weapons is the _Penalty_for unlawfully using the weapon. If you use a gun to harm or kill someone than Gee guess what ( no plea bargoning no parol no early release,,just a swift maybe painless execution no mercy no saving soles just a, see ya bye. Stupid people blame guns, put the fear of god into gun slingers and it all stops If you kill the innocent than you are gone Make deathrow maximum 48 hrs. Oh Ya one more thing anyone resembling Bin Laden be shot on site
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by BillaritesBri http:///t/390399/want-a-gun-just-buy-it-on-craigslist/120#post_3501860
You should be able to buy a gun on Craigslist, why not as long as all the right procedures that the federal goverment require's ( got that federal not state, state has no say in the matter, neither does county or city) the second ammendment is a federal issue ( Chicago who the h#ll do they think they are More Taxes) THE WHOLE problem with acquiring weapons is the _Penalty_for unlawfully using the weapon. If you use a gun to harm or kill someone than Gee guess what ( no plea bargoning no parol no early release,,just a swift maybe painless execution no mercy no saving soles just a, see ya bye. Stupid people blame guns, put the fear of god into gun slingers and it all stops If you kill the innocent than you are gone Make deathrow maximum 48 hrs. Oh Ya one more thing anyone resembling Bin Laden be shot on site
"Anyone resembling Bin Laden be shot on site"? Yeaaa. You're the poster child of someone who needs to stay as far away from firearms as possible...
 

darthtang aw

Active Member
"Anyone resembling Bin Laden be shot on site"?  Yeaaa.  You're the poster child of someone who needs to stay as far away from firearms as possible...:^^&:
For once we agree. People like this is what makes people paranoid about lawful gun owners. Pathetic really.
 

mantisman51

Active Member
But even if it wasn't a joke, who cares? Should the government tell you you can't speak unless you tell them why you want to and what you're going to do with your speech? How about this: you can't vote until you prove you are responsible enough to vote? I know, you can only be protected by the 5th Amendment when you submit a form with the FBI and they do a background check on you. This stupid "ooh, guns are so serious we have to treat them like a bomb ready to go off" is crazy. They are protected by the Constutution THE SAME WAY as all our rights-even more than the other rights actually, since it says "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"-which means not even a tiny bit of that right around the edges can be taken away. Yet people like you, Bionic, can't wait to destroy a large part of what has kept us free from foreign invasion and internal tyranny. You are so frightened and myopic you can't see the value in it, so it must be banned. It must suck real bad having 0 testosterone level and live in liberal fear of a God-given right in a country where the vast majority still believe in it. Liberty is sooooo scary to those incapable of self-sufficiency and you show it with every anti-gun post. There, no anger or hate, just plain truth. I guess that makes me evil or something in today's America.
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by mantisman51 http:///t/390399/want-a-gun-just-buy-it-on-craigslist/120#post_3502139
But even if it wasn't a joke, who cares? Should the government tell you you can't speak unless you tell them why you want to and what you're going to do with your speech? How about this: you can't vote until you prove you are responsible enough to vote? I know, you can only be protected by the 5th Amendment when you submit a form with the FBI and they do a background check on you. This stupid "ooh, guns are so serious we have to treat them like a bomb ready to go off" is crazy. They are protected by the Constutution THE SAME WAY as all our rights-even more than the other rights actually, since it says "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"-which means not even a tiny bit of that right around the edges can be taken away. Yet people like you, Bionic, can't wait to destroy a large part of what has kept us free from foreign invasion and internal tyranny. You are so frightened and myopic you can't see the value in it, so it must be banned. It must suck real bad having 0 testosterone level and live in liberal fear of a God-given right in a country where the vast majority still believe in it. Liberty is sooooo scary to those incapable of self-sufficiency and you show it with every anti-gun post. There, no anger or hate, just plain truth. I guess that makes me evil or something in today's America.
You live in your own twisted fantasy world of paranoia mantis. No, the 1st Amendement shouldn't protect an individual who uses words to incite harm on others. So it's OK for some whacko to claim he wants to kill Obama because he hates his politics?We shouldn't protect our government officials from some nutjob because they disagree with their policies? When someone claims we should "Shoot anyone who look like Bin Laden", you should feel VERY concern, whether they may be joking or not. Were the two kids that committed the Columbine killings "Just voicing their disdain for their fellow students and their hate of the world and that school"? How about the maniac in the Colorado theatre shootings? Come on, he was just ticked about another Batman movie coming out. Too bad there were innocent people killed when he decided to trash a movie theatre with a few hundred rounds.
"Free from foreign invasion and internal tyranny"? We're free from foreign invasion due to the billions we spend on our military. We TRAIN those individuals on how to protect this country from any type of foreign invasion. You apparently sit around and watch the movie Red Dawn WAY too many times. As far as "internal tyranny", you sound like those buffoons that signed all these secession petitions. We don't live in the 1800's anymore. We've become a more logical, compassionate, and intelligent society. Most of us don't have some mortal fear of our federal government to the point we think we need to use violence to deter their actions. Since the Civil War, we've always handled our disagreements through the Power Of The Vote. Don't like what some politician in Washington wants to inact into a law, vote them out. Your ideology thinks we need to just storm the walls and shoot our way out of our disagreements. You're letting your "testosterone" overload your mouth. You can talk big all you want how you could "take arms against our tyrannical government". All that does is get you killed.
 

mantisman51

Active Member
Wow, talk about extreme. So, every person who legally and Constitutionally owns a firearm is an eminent danger to society, like someone who would threaten another person, and should be treated as a criminal? Thanks for the best example of liberal bias and paranoia. Couldn't have written it better myself. You rock, dude!
 

reefraff

Active Member
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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/390399/want-a-gun-just-buy-it-on-craigslist/120#post_3502144
You live in your own twisted fantasy world of paranoia mantis. No, the 1st Amendement shouldn't protect an individual who uses words to incite harm on others. So it's OK for some whacko to claim he wants to kill Obama because he hates his politics?We shouldn't protect our government officials from some nutjob because they disagree with their policies? When someone claims we should "Shoot anyone who look like Bin Laden", you should feel VERY concern, whether they may be joking or not. Were the two kids that committed the Columbine killings "Just voicing their disdain for their fellow students and their hate of the world and that school"? How about the maniac in the Colorado theatre shootings? Come on, he was just ticked about another Batman movie coming out. Too bad there were innocent people killed when he decided to trash a movie theatre with a few hundred rounds.
"Free from foreign invasion and internal tyranny"? We're free from foreign invasion due to the billions we spend on our military. We TRAIN those individuals on how to protect this country from any type of foreign invasion. You apparently sit around and watch the movie Red Dawn WAY too many times. As far as "internal tyranny", you sound like those buffoons that signed all these secession petitions. We don't live in the 1800's anymore. We've become a more logical, compassionate, and intelligent society. Most of us don't have some mortal fear of our federal government to the point we think we need to use violence to deter their actions. Since the Civil War, we've always handled our disagreements through the Power Of The Vote. Don't like what some politician in Washington wants to inact into a law, vote them out. Your ideology thinks we need to just storm the walls and shoot our way out of our disagreements. You're letting your "testosterone" overload your mouth. You can talk big all you want how you could "take arms against our tyrannical government". All that does is get you killed.
Nice try at the redirect LOL! Mantis said who cares if the person who said everyone who looks like OBL should be shot wasn't joking. Maybe I am missing something here but I didn't see where he said the guy threatening 0bama didn't matter.
You can deny it all you want but one of the specific reasons those who wrote and voted for the the passage of the second amendment was to protect the citizen from the government.
 

beth

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I for one want to see the powers that the federal government has given itself rolled back by several decades, if not a whole century. Just look at what the FED has accomplished in the past decade at destroying individual liberties by fear-mongering American citizens. You can't even take a domestic air flight without being unclothed and assaulted by the FED, soon to be applied to all mass transit. I envision a near-future of cars being scanned on highways so that FED will know what, if anything at all, is in our cars.
A good many of us on this forum have 24-40% of our hard earned money going to feed the FED's need for more and more powers.
 

reefraff

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Originally Posted by Beth http:///t/390399/want-a-gun-just-buy-it-on-craigslist/120#post_3502155
I for one want to see the powers that the federal government has given itself rolled back by several decades, if not a whole century. Just look at what the FED has accomplished in the past decade at destroying individual liberties by fear-mongering American citizens. You can't even take a domestic air flight without being unclothed and assaulted by the FED, soon to be applied to all mass transit. I envision a near-future of cars being scanned on highways so that FED will know what, if anything at all, is in our cars.
A good many of us on this forum have 24-40% of our hard earned money going to feed the FED's need for more and more powers.
40%? How you getting off so cheap LOL!!! When you figure in hidden taxes it goes over 50% for most taxpayers.
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by mantisman51 http:///t/390399/want-a-gun-just-buy-it-on-craigslist/120#post_3502145
Wow, talk about extreme. So, every person who legally and Constitutionally owns a firearm is an eminent danger to society, like someone who would threaten another person, and should be treated as a criminal? Thanks for the best example of liberal bias and paranoia. Couldn't have written it better myself. You rock, dude!
I don't think I've debated someone with such an obtuse and myopic view, and how to misconstrue what someone says. Absolutely, you threaten someone, you should be treated as a criminal. You honestly have no problem with someone coming up to you and saying they wouldn't have a problem blowing you and your family away? "Oh, that's OK. He's just blowing off steam. He doesn't have to the balls to go through with it. It's just talk." But when it happens, that's a different story. Oh wait, Mr. I Have A Gun would simply pull out his big bad weapon, stick it in the guy's face then say, "Just try it. Make my day." Guess what. He'd walk away because of his 1st Amendment right to say anything he wants, and you get tossed in jail for armed assault. LMFAO.
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/390399/want-a-gun-just-buy-it-on-craigslist/120#post_3502160
40%? How you getting off so cheap LOL!!! When you figure in hidden taxes it goes over 50% for most taxpayers.
We have "hidden taxes"? My effective federal taxes were just over 15% this last year. So they're secretly taking other money from me that I'm not aware of? If you didn't have that Federal Gas Tax, you'd probably be walking right now because your car engine would be trashed by the dirty gas you stuck in it. You probably pay more in state and local taxes that you do federal. Don't ever see anyone complaining about those. You can just use the Darth Principle - don't like the taxes and laws where you live, just pack up and move someplace where the laws and taxes best suit you.
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/390399/want-a-gun-just-buy-it-on-craigslist/120#post_3502151
Nice try at the redirect LOL! Mantis said who cares if the person who said everyone who looks like OBL should be shot wasn't joking. Maybe I am missing something here but I didn't see where he said the guy threatening 0bama didn't matter.
You can deny it all you want but one of the specific reasons those who wrote and voted for the the passage of the second amendment was to protect the citizen from the government.
Could you try that circular logic again? Your first statement made no sense. Felt like I was riding a merry-go-round.
The guys who wrote that Amendement probably didn't fathom what kind of technological advances we'd make, and the size this country would grow when they wrote it. They didn't even know anything existed past the Mississippi River, and their idea of a gun was a flintlock that took 2 minutes to load to make one shot. Back then, the government and the citizens were on an even keel when it came to weaponry. The Feds may have had more, but they were essentially the same type. How many citizens you know can go down to the local gun show and pick up an armed drone? Got access to an F-15, A-10 Thunderbolt, maybe a couple of tanks? A citizen's revolt today would last about a week. You're under the impression that if there was some uprising by the Anti-Fed Loons, that every single American would join that "side". If they did, then who would they be fighting? Those Evil Fed Lawmakers are YOU and ME. To my knowledge, Washington doesn't have some cloning technique to create all these Congressional Androids that bow to and obey to anything the Head Dictator has to say. You would have a split in the citizenry who'd follow one side or the other. Which side would you want to be on? The one that has all the weapons and resources, or those brave souls who would have armor that would equate to pitchforks and stones compared to what the government has? We all have our own perspective of what "freedoms and liberties" are. Mine are obviously different from yours. You have access to a few AR-15's. I'd have access to a .50-cal and more. Which one of us would come out on top?
 

reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/390399/want-a-gun-just-buy-it-on-craigslist/120#post_3502162
We have "hidden taxes"? My effective federal taxes were just over 15% this last year. So they're secretly taking other money from me that I'm not aware of? If you didn't have that Federal Gas Tax, you'd probably be walking right now because your car engine would be trashed by the dirty gas you stuck in it. You probably pay more in state and local taxes that you do federal. Don't ever see anyone complaining about those. You can just use the Darth Principle - don't like the taxes and laws where you live, just pack up and move someplace where the laws and taxes best suit you.
Buy fishing tackle? Hidden federal excise tax. Buy motor oil? Tires? Gasoline? Alcohol? Use wood products? Numerous products are hit with excise taxes we don't see but pay just the same. People are completely ignorant of just how much we pay in taxes. And that doesn't include things like oppressive emissions standards placed on big rigs and other questionable government regulations that increase the price of things we buy every day. Nor does it include the corporate income tax which we end up paying.
 

reefraff

Active Member
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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/390399/want-a-gun-just-buy-it-on-craigslist/120#post_3502164
Could you try that circular logic again? Your first statement made no sense. Felt like I was riding a merry-go-round.
The guys who wrote that Amendement probably didn't fathom what kind of technological advances we'd make, and the size this country would grow when they wrote it. They didn't even know anything existed past the Mississippi River, and their idea of a gun was a flintlock that took 2 minutes to load to make one shot. Back then, the government and the citizens were on an even keel when it came to weaponry. The Feds may have had more, but they were essentially the same type. How many citizens you know can go down to the local gun show and pick up an armed drone? Got access to an F-15, A-10 Thunderbolt, maybe a couple of tanks? A citizen's revolt today would last about a week. You're under the impression that if there was some uprising by the Anti-Fed Loons, that every single American would join that "side". If they did, then who would they be fighting? Those Evil Fed Lawmakers are YOU and ME. To my knowledge, Washington doesn't have some cloning technique to create all these Congressional Androids that bow to and obey to anything the Head Dictator has to say. You would have a split in the citizenry who'd follow one side or the other. Which side would you want to be on? The one that has all the weapons and resources, or those brave souls who would have armor that would equate to pitchforks and stones compared to what the government has? We all have our own perspective of what "freedoms and liberties" are. Mine are obviously different from yours. You have access to a few AR-15's. I'd have access to a .50-cal and more. Which one of us would come out on top?
Mantis said so what if someone thinks anyone who looks like OBL should be shot and you tried to twist it into him saying it's no big deal for someone to threaten the president. He never said that.
It doesn't matter what the crafters of the second envisioned. They placed the right to keep and bare arms in the Constitution and it's there to stay. You don't like it move to England. I can buy a few AR's for the same reason someone can buy a five thousand square foot house, own a car that can go 160 miles an hour or own their own airplane. Because I can. I guarantee you an AR in my possession is a whole lot safer to the public at large than a sports car in the hands of a 16 year old kid.
Who's talking about anti fed loons? I realize liberal brainwashing might have damaged your ability for critical thought but I was pretty clear, a popular uprising. Not a few thousand kooks.
 

mantisman51

Active Member
Wow, talk about extreme. So, every person who legally and Constitutionally owns a firearm is an eminent danger to society, like someone who would threaten another person, and should be treated as a criminal? Thanks for the best example of liberal bias and paranoia. Couldn't have written it better myself. You rock, dude!
I guess basic English eludes him...as well as common sense and logic. Rather justify the person breaking the law, I demonstrated your attitude makes the simple act of owning a firearm EQUAL TO a crime, not justifying a crime. Now, maybe you get it, Mo er Bionic.
 

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/390399/want-a-gun-just-buy-it-on-craigslist/120#post_3502169
Buy fishing tackle? Hidden federal excise tax. Buy motor oil? Tires? Gasoline? Alcohol? Use wood products? Numerous products are hit with excise taxes we don't see but pay just the same. People are completely ignorant of just how much we pay in taxes. And that doesn't include things like oppressive emissions standards placed on big rigs and other questionable government regulations that increase the price of things we buy every day. Nor does it include the corporate income tax which we end up paying.
But why are those taxes there? Oh, that's right. It's that elusive and ficticious environmental issue that we don't seem to have a problem with. No one forces you to buy alcohol. Don't want to pay taxes on gases and oil? Don't drive a vehicle. Ride a bike. Of course deforestation isn't a problem. There's plenty of trees to go around.
 
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