Way to go California Supreme Court

jmick

jmick

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Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/2612471
My opinion is still out, but reefreak does bring a up a semi-valid point. If same-s ex marriages are in, what else? Man-animal marriages? What about same-kin marriages? Some of these people feel just a 'right' about how they feel about themselves as homosexuals. Where's the difference? And what gives you the right to judge them, and not us to judge homosexuals?
You can't be serious? Are you equating the love two people feel towards each other as being = to bestiality? I can't believe anyone with half a brain would say something as silly as that or compare it to in cest, which is wrong on many different levels. Is that really the best you can come up with?
What happened to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness?
 
lovethesea

lovethesea

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Ya know.....I am a live and let live kind of person. There are far TOO MANY other REAL issues in this world to lose sleep over other than 2 HUMANs committing their lives together. We have some friends who have been together since the late 80's. Their biggest hurdle/problem is their assets/kids/property etc. NOTHING is legal towards the other. Only 1 of them is "the parent".......the other person is nothing. Really. They are better parents than some we know, but in an emergency???.......big problems can occur. Their community property will be in limbo if something happens to the other.
Really...is this the biggest problem we have right now??? Beacause I will be the first to say NO!
 
invertcrazy

invertcrazy

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Originally Posted by SigmaChris
http:///forum/post/2612464
If marriage is such a holy thing between a man and woman, why do half of them get thrown away in divorce? Equal rights for everyone in this country the Constitution guarantees, unless you are a minority then you have to fight for your rights.
Dont know.Been married 30 yrs with 2 grown kids.Im not the holiest person, far far far from it. just saying how i was brought up.Everyone is entitled to their opinion (its in the constitution) doesnt make it right or wrong its just an opinion. Just like one other reply read the us has a lot bigger problems than this. didnt mean to make anyone mad.
 
aquaknight

aquaknight

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Originally Posted by Jmick
http:///forum/post/2612478
You can't be serious? Are you equating the love two people feel towards each other as being = to bestiality? I can't believe anyone with half a brain would say something as silly as that or compare it to in cest, which is wrong on many different levels. Is that really the best you can come up with?
What happened to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness?
Yes. That's exactly it. Those people (omitted the bestiality one), would be just as happy as any same-s ex couple to get marriage. My point is your judging them, yet find it okay to string out people for judging homosexual couples. Why is that? Because the majority of people find in cest wrong? Well didn't the majority of Californians find homosexual marriages wrong?
 
socal57che

socal57che

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2611999
I actually have to agree with you on this. The end of days is near.
The only time I am concerned about the alternative lifestyle is when they start wanting to teach about it in school....That is my job to teach about and explain...not the school's.
Darth, you obvously don't teach in Kalifornia. You should do some googling. SB777 states that gays and lesbians MUST be portrayed in a positive manner. Teachers MAY NOT say a single word that could be construed as negative. I suppose this will include health risks such as tearing of the, ... well, the exit. Also would allow boys to use girls restrooms and vice versa, because of the redefining of what gender and s-ex means. Discrimination issues would run amok because one could no longer tell if a person was male or female based on their obvious anatomical features given before they were even born.
People, this is just plain wrong. I'm prolly just stupid, but how many other animals on earth try to mate with the same s-ex. It's unnatural and IMO just plain wrong. If I must remove my kids from public school because they are force fed homosexuality, I will.
Reefreak has a point. Today men and men/ women and women. Tomorrow polygamy and in-ce-st. Next year, the mut from the dog pound.
Now, the marriage is holy issue, raised by Sigmachris. Being Christian or any religion, for that matter, that holds marriage to be sacred does not make people perfect. People still get divorced. I don't condone divorce and believe there is no such thing as irreconcilable differences, but well meaning people still do it. Who created marriage? Was it not God? Is it then not holy? If you don't want God in your life that's fine, but don't drag His institution of marriage through the gutter. I believe marriage was created by God for a man and a woman as a holy thing.
If marriage is not holy to someone then why do it. It's like spitting in the face of those who do.
And for those that don't believe bestiality is growing at an alarming rate just google bestiality in america. Plenty of articles about it's rise to popularity lately.
rant over
link...http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2008...3912_29_07.txt
 
socal57che

socal57che

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Originally Posted by Jmick
http:///forum/post/2611905
For the 4-3 ruling that overturned the law that only allowed opposite gender couples to marry!
Fun fact, Cali was also the first state to over turn the ban on interracial marriage...I bet the right-wingers back in the day were crying that it was the beginning of the end for our countries morals

you can also buy dope from vending machines. yay for kalifornia. I am ashamed to live here.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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The ruling just means several more states including Cali will pass CA's this fall. You don't think that 60 some percent of the people are going to be a little miffed over the ruling? The whole selling point behind the campaign against state constitutional amendments is they are not needed. This shows they are.
This case screams for a trip to SCOTUS. If the states cannot pass a law limiting marriage to one man and one woman the laws against polygamy shouldn't be valid either. Why should the number of people in a marriage be an issue if the gender isn't?
Not allowing gays to marry isn't somehow going to "cure" them, I really don't understand what people get so worked up about. I oppose gay marriage because it falls into a pattern of mainstreaming abnormal behavior. I think civil unions are fine but I am not going to lose any sleep if a state passes a law allowing them to marry,
 
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kikithemermaid

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Originally Posted by lovethesea
http:///forum/post/2612484
Ya know.....I am a live and let live kind of person. There are far TOO MANY other REAL issues in this world to lose sleep over other than 2 HUMANs committing their lives together.
Really...is this the biggest problem we have right now??? Beacause I will be the first to say NO!
You said it!
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by Jmick
http:///forum/post/2612168
And I wonder what percentage of the people wanted to overturn the ban on interracial marriage? I can only hope you feel that was a good decision, even if was against the will of the majority?
You are comparing apples to orange juice. It was a solid legal ruling as far as striking down the interracial marriage ban. This is not so cut and dry.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by Jmick
http:///forum/post/2612478
You can't be serious? Are you equating the love two people feel towards each other as being = to bestiality?
Apparently this pro gay article equates gay behavior with what animals do

Originally Posted by katiev
http:///forum/post/2612587
"Quote:
I'm prolly just stupid, but how many other animals on earth try to mate with the same s-ex. It's unnatural and IMO just plain wrong. "
Actually, a lot of species do.
Yahoo article, "Same --- Couples Common in the Wild".

What about an adult brother and sister, should they be allowed to marry?
 
angler man

angler man

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/2612598
Apparently this pro gay article equates gay behavior with what animals do

What about an adult brother and sister, should they be allowed to marry?

This is a good point. What if the brother and sister really love each other? Should we stand in the way? Two consenting adults who just want to be happy?
Sorry, but this is a very slippery slope.
 
katiev

katiev

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Ugh.
What, exactly, does in-cest have to do with the article I posted? That article was about homosexuality occurring in nature. Not about incestuous human relationships. Pro-gay? ...Yeah. The zoologists and such who study these species probably just made up all of that to spread gay propaganda. <-- Sarcasm.
Actually, there is a BIG difference between romantically loving someone of the same s-ex, and romantically loving one's own sibling. The biggest difference of all (just from a scientific standpoint): Same s-ex couples cannot reproduce. Incestuous couples can. Incestuous relationships = Potentially f'ed up gene pool. Same s-ex relationships = No effect on gene pool. Neither make a positive contribution to diversifying the gene pool, but one certainly makes a negative impact.
 
aquaknight

aquaknight

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If you want to toss in the homosexual part of it 'naturally occurring' in animals, then why not include the bit about incestuous animals? I'd bet the fort that is exponentially far more common.
And who said incestuous couple would have to reproduce? The pro-gay crowds like to chant "none of our business" what people do behind their closed doors. So what if they could get married as well, but only not allowed to have their own children. They could artificially inseminate with a donor, or adopted, just like homosexual couples.
 
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alexmir

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Two brothers or two sisters cant reproduce.
And also, if same --- couples can marry, then men should be able to marry more than one woman, how dare someone tell them they can only marry one woman!!!
 
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alexmir

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Also, if were going on what nature does, Female praying mantis eat theit male mates after having in-ter,,cour--se....................SO i guess that makes it ok for my wife to murder me when we find out shes pregnant.
 
aquaknight

aquaknight

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Originally Posted by alexmir
http:///forum/post/2612624
Also, if were going on what nature does, Female praying mantis eat theit male mates after having in-ter,,cour--se....................SO i guess that makes it ok for my wife to murder me when we find out shes pregnant.
Only if it's proven your nutritional nourishment went to development of the kid
 
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