What Came First...!?
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darth tang
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Before I vote and give my explanation, need to know if you mean a chicken egg. It is very important.
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kaholic
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In nature, living things evolve through changes in their DNA. In an animal like a chicken, DNA from a male sperm cell and a female ovum meet and combine to form a zygote -- the first cell of a new baby chicken. This first cell divides innumerable times to form all of the cells of the complete animal. In any animal, every cell contains exactly the same DNA, and that DNA comes from the zygote.
Chickens evolved from non-chickens through small changes caused by the mixing of male and female DNA or by mutations to the DNA that produced the zygote. These changes and mutations only have an effect at the point where a new zygote is created. That is, two non-chickens mated and the DNA in their new zygote contained the mutation(s) that produced the first true chicken. That one zygote cell divided to produce the first true chicken.
Prior to that first true chicken zygote, there were only non-chickens. The zygote cell is the only place where DNA mutations could produce a new animal, and the zygote cell is housed in the chicken's egg. So, the egg must have come first
Chickens evolved from non-chickens through small changes caused by the mixing of male and female DNA or by mutations to the DNA that produced the zygote. These changes and mutations only have an effect at the point where a new zygote is created. That is, two non-chickens mated and the DNA in their new zygote contained the mutation(s) that produced the first true chicken. That one zygote cell divided to produce the first true chicken.
Prior to that first true chicken zygote, there were only non-chickens. The zygote cell is the only place where DNA mutations could produce a new animal, and the zygote cell is housed in the chicken's egg. So, the egg must have come first
thangbom
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chiken came first..
chicken come from a mutation pool.. and he and she came first.. then they lay a egg.. ten sit on it.. ( i think the --- of chiken is determine by temp while they are sat on.. ) anyhow chiken came first.. but before chiken was a mutaion pool..
cuzz what happen if then was only 1 egg... and lets say the outdoor temp was enought for it to hatch.. what if only a male.. came out?? .. how would it have another egg.. or even if it was 2 eggs.. and the outdoor was enough for it too hatch.. since they both hatch in the same enviiornmoent.. they would come to be the same --- ( cuz like stated.. they are sexed via temp) anyhow.. it would only end up with 1 ---.. of the chicken species.. and thus cease to exist..
chicken come from a mutation pool.. and he and she came first.. then they lay a egg.. ten sit on it.. ( i think the --- of chiken is determine by temp while they are sat on.. ) anyhow chiken came first.. but before chiken was a mutaion pool..
cuzz what happen if then was only 1 egg... and lets say the outdoor temp was enought for it to hatch.. what if only a male.. came out?? .. how would it have another egg.. or even if it was 2 eggs.. and the outdoor was enough for it too hatch.. since they both hatch in the same enviiornmoent.. they would come to be the same --- ( cuz like stated.. they are sexed via temp) anyhow.. it would only end up with 1 ---.. of the chicken species.. and thus cease to exist..
darth tang
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Ok, since you have determined chicken egg, that makes it MUCH easier.
If you believe in creation, then you believe the chicken came first.
If you believe in evolution, you still have to believe the chicken came first, as what ever laid the egg the chicken came out of was not a chicken. Therefore the egg was not a chicken's egg but a reptile/bird evolutionary creature's egg. Therefore regardless, the chicken came first as we wouldn't have a chicken egg until we had a chicken if you follow the evolutionary ladder.
Darth (there is no room for debate as my logic is sound) Tang
If you believe in creation, then you believe the chicken came first.
If you believe in evolution, you still have to believe the chicken came first, as what ever laid the egg the chicken came out of was not a chicken. Therefore the egg was not a chicken's egg but a reptile/bird evolutionary creature's egg. Therefore regardless, the chicken came first as we wouldn't have a chicken egg until we had a chicken if you follow the evolutionary ladder.
Darth (there is no room for debate as my logic is sound) Tang
shu-perman
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celacanthr
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Originally Posted by Darth Tang
Ok, since you have determined chicken egg, that makes it MUCH easier.
If you believe in creation, then you believe the chicken came first.
If you believe in evolution, you still have to believe the chicken came first, as what ever laid the egg the chicken came out of was not a chicken. Therefore the egg was not a chicken's egg but a reptile/bird evolutionary creature's egg. Therefore regardless, the chicken came first as we wouldn't have a chicken egg until we had a chicken if you follow the evolutionary ladder.
Darth (there is no room for debate as my logic is sound) Tang
If you believe in evolution...
Chicken's hatch, correct?
When a chicken hatches, they hatch from an egg, do they not?
Then the egg would be a chicken egg, would it not?
Darth is correct in that it would not be a chicken's egg. But a chicken egg, would come before the chicken.
CE(semantics)LA
Ok, since you have determined chicken egg, that makes it MUCH easier.
If you believe in creation, then you believe the chicken came first.
If you believe in evolution, you still have to believe the chicken came first, as what ever laid the egg the chicken came out of was not a chicken. Therefore the egg was not a chicken's egg but a reptile/bird evolutionary creature's egg. Therefore regardless, the chicken came first as we wouldn't have a chicken egg until we had a chicken if you follow the evolutionary ladder.
Darth (there is no room for debate as my logic is sound) Tang
If you believe in evolution...
Chicken's hatch, correct?
When a chicken hatches, they hatch from an egg, do they not?
Then the egg would be a chicken egg, would it not?
Darth is correct in that it would not be a chicken's egg. But a chicken egg, would come before the chicken.
CE(semantics)LA
speg
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Chicken came first. I believe in God and im sure God didnt throw out a bunch of eggs and little baby animals when he created everything.. God would have created full grown animals so he didnt have to make sure they survived.... he just didnt have that kind of time on his hands.
1journeyman
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Originally Posted by kaholic
In nature, living things evolve through changes in their DNA. In an animal like a chicken, DNA from a male sperm cell and a female ovum meet and combine to form a zygote -- the first cell of a new baby chicken. This first cell divides innumerable times to form all of the cells of the complete animal. In any animal, every cell contains exactly the same DNA, and that DNA comes from the zygote.
Chickens evolved from non-chickens through small changes caused by the mixing of male and female DNA or by mutations to the DNA that produced the zygote. These changes and mutations only have an effect at the point where a new zygote is created. That is, two non-chickens mated and the DNA in their new zygote contained the mutation(s) that produced the first true chicken. That one zygote cell divided to produce the first true chicken.
Prior to that first true chicken zygote, there were only non-chickens. The zygote cell is the only place where DNA mutations could produce a new animal, and the zygote cell is housed in the chicken's egg. So, the egg must have come first
I love the theory of evolution
As Darth said, either way the chicken came first...
In nature, living things evolve through changes in their DNA. In an animal like a chicken, DNA from a male sperm cell and a female ovum meet and combine to form a zygote -- the first cell of a new baby chicken. This first cell divides innumerable times to form all of the cells of the complete animal. In any animal, every cell contains exactly the same DNA, and that DNA comes from the zygote.
Chickens evolved from non-chickens through small changes caused by the mixing of male and female DNA or by mutations to the DNA that produced the zygote. These changes and mutations only have an effect at the point where a new zygote is created. That is, two non-chickens mated and the DNA in their new zygote contained the mutation(s) that produced the first true chicken. That one zygote cell divided to produce the first true chicken.
Prior to that first true chicken zygote, there were only non-chickens. The zygote cell is the only place where DNA mutations could produce a new animal, and the zygote cell is housed in the chicken's egg. So, the egg must have come first
I love the theory of evolution
As Darth said, either way the chicken came first...
