What do you do if you see a shark?

digitydash

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Most shark bites are from very poor water visablity from Big wave curning up the sand or you just wonder into a school of bait by shore that they are chasing and you happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.Most divers don't have a problem with bites cause water quality is alot better offshore when their is a problem is when you s p e a r fish or chumb up the water to get them near you.1 drop of blood a shark can smell it many miles away.
 

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by sharkbait9
http:///forum/post/2468298
...most people thank god don't come in contact with these sharks everyday. ....
That's not accurate.
Most people do not knowlingly
come into contact with these sharks. That is far more accurate. If you swim or surf fish in the Gulf of Mexico or Atlantic Ocean you have come into contact with these sharks; whether knowlingly or unknowingly.
You keep talking about how many times you've seen Bulls, and only seen 1 attack. Doesn't that tend to argue the point that they aren't as dangerous as you're making them out to be? Especially when you engage in high risk activities like lobster fishing, surf fishing, etc.
Again, look at the numbers. Bull Sharks are found worldwide in waters frequented by people. Yet, there are very few attacks in any given year.
 

ophiura

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Originally Posted by sharkbait9
http:///forum/post/2468287
http://animals.nationalgeographic.co...ull-shark.html
here is a little blurb from the link up top
Because of these characteristics, many experts consider bull sharks to be the most dangerous sharks in the world. Historically, they are joined by their more famous cousins, great whites and tiger sharks, as the three species most likely to attack humans.
From same article
They are found cruising the shallow, warm waters of all the world’s oceans. Fast, agile predators, they will eat almost anything they see, including fish, dolphins, and even other sharks. Humans are not, per se, on their menus. However, they frequent the turbid waters of estuaries and bays, and often attack people inadvertently or out of curiosity.
I think the word "often" is not meant to mean that this is frequent...it means that the reason for the rare attacks are most "often" due to these factors.
The OP basically asked what to do if you see a shark in the water, or how not to attract a shark. Basically nothing...99.9% of the time, they will do NOTHING except swim away. There are VERY FEW shark attacks worldwide and many many many are likely correlated with fishing/chumming/carrying bait or being around these activities. Don't swim off a fishing pier, for example. Even local attacks in Texas were exactly that, people walking in shallow water with the fish they caught tied to their waist. This behavior is easy to avoid.
There was a shark attack on a young girl in the Bahamas, where she was KNEELING in water and it bit her on the hip...right near where a guy was (ILLEGALLY) spearfishing. Even that young girl got back in the water swimming around sharks. Pound for pound, IMO and in those tanks...black tips and white tips and even browns were far more skittish than those sand tigers.
There is no doubt whatsoever that bull sharks could eat you. NO DOUBT, NO ARGUMENT. They are top predators in the ocean and frankly deserve our respect when we enter their turf. Believe me, we would NEVER go near the water if they attacked humans all the time.
So yes, I do not think about being attacked by a shark when I go diving or swimming yet they are out there. In fact, they have probably been REAL close. And nothing. The sharks that bit the snot out of me were 6' baby bamboo sharks....because my hand was covered in squid scent. Most shark attacks...not all but most...can be correlated to several things. Several HUMAN activities that would so clearly lead to possible trouble and nothing out of the ordinary for sharks. Surfing in feeding areas when you look exactly like a big fat seal. And believe me too, if they intended to kill you, people would not make it to shore when that happens yet many do.
They are animals with instincts, not the emotions that PEOPLE have forced on them as brutal killers who don't like people.
This is an argument that comes down to personal opinions, so no worries, there is nothing personal
. I do not fear sharks in general. I also would not do stupid things on their turf, frankly. But in general you should be far more afraid of being attacked by a pit bull, struck by lightening or a myriad of other highly unlikely things. Does that mean I may be attacked by a shark at some point, even without doing anything to "attract" it? Sure...but I'm hardly going to worry about it or tell people to worry.
As for the sharks in that tank, yes, they were fed regularly. For an aquarium to say anything different is asinine. They were also never fed with divers in the water in that tank, so they have no reason to associate divers with food. This is NOT true of many open water diving establishments. You can go to the Oklahoma aquarium site which keeps bulls and lemons on display...with divers in the tank. They have been tremendously successful.
So to the OP...if you see a shark...don't pester it, don't panic, stay calm, watch. They will quite likely just pass you by. Be amazed at one of the most ancient and most successful animals on the planet. Hope to goodness that your grandchildren will get to see them too, because they are harvested at an alarming rate and killed horrifically (IMO)...or outright killed due to misconception and fear. Like wolves, they are critical parts of the ecosystem in which the live, and should be respected, IMO
We will be in trouble without them.
 

scsinet

Active Member
mmmm Sharks... Bad fish. Not like going down to the pond and chasing blue gills.
Sharks... they'll swallow you whole. If you see one, I'll catch if for you. But it's not gonna be pleasant. It'll cost you. I'll find him for three thousand, but I'll catch him, and kill him, for ten. But you've gotta make up your minds. If you want to stay alive, then ante up. I don't want no volunteers, I don't want no mates, there's too many captains on this message board. Ten thousand dollars for me by myself. For that you get the head, the tail, the whole damn thing.
... or by shark did you mean one of the moderators? In that case, delete your links and hope for the best!
 

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by SCSInet
http:///forum/post/2468918
mmmm Sharks... Bad fish. Not like going down to the pond and chasing blue gills.
Sharks... they'll swallow you whole. If you see one, I'll catch if for you. But it's not gonna be pleasant. It'll cost you. I'll find him for three thousand, but I'll catch him, and kill him, for ten. But you've gotta make up your minds. If you want to stay alive, then ante up. I don't want no volunteers, I don't want no mates, there's too many captains on this message board. Ten thousand dollars for me by myself. For that you get the head, the tail, the whole damn thing.
... or by shark did you mean one of the moderators? In that case, delete your links and hope for the best!
What another less suttle jaws reference. *** *** spaces of silence for our fallen shark hunter.
 

stdreb27

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I think what sharkbait is saying and what ophuria are saying are the same. Respect a shark especially when you are in the water with it.
 

ophiura

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Originally Posted by SCSInet
http:///forum/post/2468918
mmmm Sharks... Bad fish. Not like going down to the pond and chasing blue gills.
Sharks... they'll swallow you whole. If you see one, I'll catch if for you. But it's not gonna be pleasant. It'll cost you. I'll find him for three thousand, but I'll catch him, and kill him, for ten. But you've gotta make up your minds. If you want to stay alive, then ante up. I don't want no volunteers, I don't want no mates, there's too many captains on this message board. Ten thousand dollars for me by myself. For that you get the head, the tail, the whole damn thing.
... or by shark did you mean one of the moderators? In that case, delete your links and hope for the best!
I need a smiley that basically reflects the reflex of spraying coke (the soda, to be clear) out of your nose (or mouth) when reading something
while drinking. Because that is basically what I just did.
 

sharkbait9

Active Member
Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2468572
That's not accurate.
Most people do not knowlingly
come into contact with these sharks. That is far more accurate. If you swim or surf fish in the Gulf of Mexico or Atlantic Ocean you have come into contact with these sharks; whether knowingly or unknowingly.
You keep talking about how many times you've seen Bulls, and only seen 1 attack. Doesn't that tend to argue the point that they aren't as dangerous as you're making them out to be? Especially when you engage in high risk activities like lobster fishing, surf fishing, etc.
Again, look at the numbers. Bull Sharks are found worldwide in waters frequented by people. Yet, there are very few attacks in any given year.
Ok, so I said most?????? Who's to say for certain whether people come in contact with sharks unbeknownst to them or not, if I don't know I can't say "yeah I came in contact". I will defy anyone with a sound mind or a laymen to go “oh hey a group of sharks lets go swim out to them and play with them.
Yes the amount of bulls and thrashers that we see, they both love to circle and stay right at the mouth of the inlet to the ocean feeding, and don't bother us to much. With a plethora of baitfish off in the distance away from us, I don't imagine them leaving that and swimming over to test out a diver.
While one bull decided to try out some guys a tank is my point that of all the years I have been diving and seeing sharks check us out and not being bothered by them a BULL HAD TO TEST A BOTTLE. So bulls get a little bit more respect from when I’m on their turf.
I would and will always say bulls are nasty and a person needs to be a little more cautious. I'm one person in a group of people that dive in these spots who watched a bull "test" out a bottle. Maybe I should not have used the word attack.
I would be more inclined to go underwater while the hammerheads are doing mating migration swim, that looks cool.
Originally Posted by stdreb27

http:///forum/post/2469111
I think what sharkbait is saying and what ophuria are saying are the same. Respect a shark especially when you are in the water with it.

Thank god some could see what I was trying to get at and I guess failed.
 

bigarn

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SCSInet;2468918 said:
mmmm Sharks... Bad fish. Not like going down to the pond and chasing blue gills.
Sharks... they'll swallow you whole. If you see one, I'll catch if for you. But it's not gonna be pleasant. It'll cost you. I'll find him for three thousand, but I'll catch him, and kill him, for ten. But you've gotta make up your minds. If you want to stay alive, then ante up. I don't want no volunteers, I don't want no mates, there's too many captains on this message board. Ten thousand dollars for me by myself. For that you get the head, the tail, the whole damn thing.
lol .... Here's to swimming with bowl legged women!
 

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by sharkbait9
http:///forum/post/2469707
Ok, so I said most?????? Who's to say for certain whether people come in contact with sharks unbeknownst to them or not, if I don't know I can't say "yeah I came in contact". ....
I said "most" because of the habitat overlap between where people swim, surf and fish and where sharks live. People don't realize they are in sharks' territory.
 

stdreb27

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Did anyone one see that B rate movie my ex-girlfriend is a superhero. Well when the guy was sleeping with his true love the superhero tossed a 20 foot shark into their high rise. It was funny.
 

ophiura

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Among the most dreaded sharks species of all is the Land Shark, and I would suggest avoiding those at all costs....especially people knocking on your door with flowers this Valentine's day.
 

bigarn

Active Member
Originally Posted by ophiura
http:///forum/post/2469926
Among the most dreaded sharks species of all is the Land Shark, and I would suggest avoiding those at all costs....especially people knocking on your door with flowers this Valentine's day.
SNL did a skit titled Land Shark back in the 70's ... it was hilarious!
Just a note .... The international shark files posted their numbers for 2007 today.
Known shark attacks worldwide -- 71
Shark attack fatalities worldwide -- 1
I don't think we have to much to worry about. Unless of course ... it's your time to go.
 

ophiura

Active Member
Originally Posted by bigarn
http:///forum/post/2469946
SNL did a skit titled Land Shark back in the 70's ... it was hilarious!
And in true modern fashion, there is a wikipedia entry for the Land Shark.
Woman: [not opening the door] Yes?
Voice: (mumbling) Mrs. Arlsburgerhhh?
Woman: What?
Voice: (mumbling) Mrs. Johannesburrrr?
Woman: Who is it?
Voice: [pause] Flowers.
Woman: Flowers for whom?
Voice: [long pause] Plumber, ma'am.
Woman: I don't need a plumber. You're that clever shark, aren't you?
Voice: [pause] Candygram.
Woman: Candygram, my foot. Get out of here before I call the police. You're the shark, and you know it.
Voice: I'm only a dolphin, ma'am.
Woman: A dolphin? Well...okay. [opens door]
[Huge latex and foam-rubber shark head lunges through open door, chomps down on woman's head, and drags her out of the apartment, all while the Jaws attack music is playing.]
 
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