What Price for Human Life or Why it's Good to be a Celebrity

gypsana

gypsana

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Okay I am mad! I was not going to reply to this thread because of stupid comments but now I can not help myself. No one regardless if they are jaywalking or not deserves to be killed by a drunk driver. That is just as lame as saying that if someone was killed by a drunk when they went to the street to pick up there paper or trash can it was their fault. No you are not supposed to be standing in the street for the sake of a lame argument but what is wrong with people? No matter what the pedestrian was doing pales in comparison with someone who decides to drink and drive. Peoples heads are screwed on backwards!!!!
 
aquaknight

aquaknight

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Originally Posted by NigerBang
http:///forum/post/3066979
Another case of someone famous that gets away with killing someone... The world is going to hell when we allow these types of things to happen.. Ok the guy was jaywalking... Big deal Im willing to bet that 99% of people here have jaywalked.. Are you suggesting that all would have been fine if the guy would have crossed the road a few feet down from where he was? The fact is that Stallworth was wasted (.126).. you want to play the pity for him since the guy wasnt crossing in the cross walk.. ok then.. Stallworth was also speeding while drunk driving before 8 am... I have no pity for trash like this.. Seems like if you want to kill someone all you need to do is play in the NFL..
Where have you read Stallworth was speeding? The linked article makes no mention of it.
 
cranberry

cranberry

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Wow.
"Stallworth needs to serve only 24 days of his 30-day sentence. Murphy agreed to give Stallworth credit for the one day he already served, April 2, which was the day of his arrest and booking. In addition, Stallworth received an additional five days of credit because of a Florida state statute stating anyone who is sentenced to 30 days (besides civil, contempt, drug treatment and house arrest cases) automatically gets five days' credit time served for every 30 days...."
 
el guapo

el guapo

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Originally Posted by jtrzerocool
http:///forum/post/3066960
i am not justifying stallworths drunk driving...but the guy also chose to break the law when he jaywalked...and why did he walk into the path of a moving vehicle? if it is close enough to hit you, then you are close enough to see it coming and stay out of the path...

How many times have you J walked compared to how many times have you drove drunk ? and honestly think about how many times you J walk . This is not just you but everybody . When you go to a friends house and you park across the street, you J walk from your car to the house . At the grocery store do you walk to the end of the isle before you cross it ? or do you make a straight line toward the door ? J walking is not the reason that somebody died . Drinking and driving is . This guy didn't flash his headlights to warn the guy walking . Its an excuse to cover the fact that he was intoxicated and was driving in a wreck less manner . Honestly when your in an accident you have no time to think . LEt alone time to think make a decision and execute the idea to flash the headlights .
 
jtrzerocool

jtrzerocool

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Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3066973
How did he have time to flash his lights. If someone jumps in front of you that fast all you are going to be able to do is slam on the brakes and hold your breath. If he was far enough away for you to think about flashing your lights as a warning.... your far enough away to stop.... if you are sober.
A sober man may have reacted different... swerved different...
That victim made a mistake by doing what he did... he is also to blame.... should we give him a month's prison sentence too? Oh wait, his sentence was a little longer.
ok lets change the scenario a little...lets eliminate the pedestrian...stallworts still decides to drive drunk but gets pulled over...gets a DUI and that is the end of the story...
now lets eliminate the drunk driving...stalloworth still is going to hit the pedestrian because he runs in front of his car...he gets no fines or punishment because he was not at fault...
what i am trying to say is that i dont think that the fact that he was drunk should eliminate that fact that this whole accident was not his fault...
Originally Posted by gypsana
http:///forum/post/3066981
Okay I am mad! I was not going to reply to this thread because of stupid comments but now I can not help myself. No one regardless if they are jaywalking or not deserves to be killed by a drunk driver. That is just as lame as saying that if someone was killed by a drunk when they went to the street to pick up there paper or trash can it was their fault. No you are not supposed to be standing in the street for the sake of a lame argument but what is wrong with people? No matter what the pedestrian was doing pales in comparison with someone who decides to drink and drive. Peoples heads are screwed on backwards!!!!

i already said that i am not trying to defend stallworth...he still chose to drive drunk...however if this guy didnt walk in front of him...he MIGHT have been pulled over for drunk driving...and we would never be talking about this...
Originally Posted by EL GUAPO
http:///forum/post/3066987
How many times have you J walked compared to how many times have you drove drunk ? and honestly think about how many times you J walk . This is not just you but everybody . When you go to a friends house and you park across the street, you J walk from your car to the house . At the grocery store do you walk to the end of the isle before you cross it ? or do you make a straight line toward the door ? J walking is not the reason that somebody died . Drinking and driving is . This guy didn't flash his headlights to warn the guy walking . Its an excuse to cover the fact that he was intoxicated and was driving in a wreck less manner . Honestly when your in an accident you have no time to think . LEt alone time to think make a decision and execute the idea to flash the headlights .
Jaywalking is the reason somebody died...if he didnt jaywalk...we would not be dead...how hard is that to understand?
reguardless of wether he flashed his lights or not...the police still ruled that stallworth was not at fault in this accident...the only reason that he is serving jail time is because someone tried to jaywalk and he happened to be drunk...
 
cranberry

cranberry

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The flashing of the lights IMO totally says he did not react appropriately to try and avoid hitting this guy.
 
meowzer

meowzer

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Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3067032
The flashing of the lights IMO totally says he did not react appropriately to try and avoid hitting this guy.
I'm not going to comment on what happened cause it is not up to me to judge this guy
BUT if I was in my right mind, and saw someone walking in front of me...regardless whether they were supposed to be there or not....I would NOT flash my lights...I would be hitting my brakes and my horn!!
 
jtrzerocool

jtrzerocool

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Originally Posted by NigerBang
http:///forum/post/3067031
Yeah.. poor Stallworth.. I feel so bad for him.. I mean the nerve of someone Jaywalking..
i never said that i felt sorry for him...its funny how you put all the facts out there and people twist them and put words into your mouth...
anyways...all i am saying is that his punishment is equal to the accident...the only crime comitted was DUI...and on a first offence most of the time people avoid jail...
 
nigerbang

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Involuntary manslaughter is the unlawful killing of a human being without malice aforethought. It is distinguished from voluntary manslaughter by the absence of intention. It is normally divided into two categories; criminally negligent manslaughter and constructive manslaughter.
Driving drunk is Negligent behavoir.... Amazing you fail to see that.. Driving Drunk is putting other people lives in risk because you cant be bothered with paying for a cab ride..I guess he was to important to take a cab like normal RESPONSIBLE people do..
"Well I flashed my lights" yeah.. that will stop you from running someone over far better than.. I dont know.. Hitting the brakes..Wait... He was drunk.. Logic failed him as it does you..
 
jtrzerocool

jtrzerocool

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Originally Posted by NigerBang
http:///forum/post/3067074
Involuntary manslaughter is the unlawful killing of a human being without malice aforethought. It is distinguished from voluntary manslaughter by the absence of intention. It is normally divided into two categories; criminally negligent manslaughter and constructive manslaughter.
Driving drunk is Negligent behavoir.... Amazing you fail to see that.. Driving Drunk is putting other people lives in risk because you cant be bothered with paying for a cab ride..I guess he was to important to take a cab like normal RESPONSIBLE people do..
"Well I flashed my lights" yeah.. that will stop you from running someone over far better than.. I dont know.. Hitting the brakes..Wait... He was drunk.. Logic failed him as it does you..
logic...hmmmm....logic...well if logic was used by most people in this thread, then we would not be arguing...logis says not to run into the path of an oncoming car...logic says to look before you cross...but i can see that looking is not important...in fact...i think ill drive home from work today and not look where i am going...maybe i'll make the 5 mile trip? do you think?
its amazing that you fail to see that the cause of the accident was jaywalking...NOT DUI...
the fact the he was drunk driving is why i am ok with the punishment...if there was no DUI...there is no punishment...
 
nigerbang

nigerbang

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So, if he would have crossed.. say, 15' from where he crossed at.. With a drunk driver that was speeding down the road coming at him.. This would have never happened? Got ya..
"Poor dad got killed"
"Well it was his own fault. Lets enjoy this money"
Whatever...
 
jtrzerocool

jtrzerocool

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Originally Posted by NigerBang
http:///forum/post/3067087
So, if he would have crossed.. say, 15' from where he crossed at.. With a drunk driver that was speeding down the road coming at him.. This would have never happened? Got ya..
"Poor dad got killed"
"Well it was his own fault. Lets enjoy this money"
Whatever...
if he would have crossed at a crosswalk this wouldnt have happened...the light would be red and he could have crossed the street safely...
 
nigerbang

nigerbang

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So by that.. If I wasnt drunk but speeding down the road and your dad walked out infront of my car and I killed him.. I didnt swerve or anything.. Just ran him over and then stopped and called the EMT's it would be okay and I could go scott free.. Remember I wasnt drinking.. So I cant be charged with DUI.. Thats what he was charged with.. I was minding my own business and he crossed.. I never slow down.. Just flash my lights.. As long as he wasnt in a crosswalk.. Im in the clear huh..
 
jtrzerocool

jtrzerocool

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Originally Posted by NigerBang
http:///forum/post/3067094
So by that.. If I wasnt drunk but speeding down the road and your dad walked out infront of my car and I killed him.. I didnt swerve or anything.. Just ran him over and then stopped and called the EMT's it would be okay and I could go scott free.. Remember I wasnt drinking.. So I cant be charged with DUI.. Thats what he was charged with.. I was minding my own business and he crossed.. I never slow down.. Just flash my lights.. As long as he wasnt in a crosswalk.. Im in the clear huh..
if you were not drunk and the police ruled that my father was at fault then there is nothing that i can do...you abided by every law...my father did not...
however, my father has the common sence to use a crosswalk and look before he crosses...
EDIT: sorry i missed the speeding part...you get a speeding ticket and dont go to jail because the fact that you were speeding is irrelevant...he broke the law and he would be ruled at fault...
 
nigerbang

nigerbang

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I think you are missing the point here..
He wasnt just convitced of DUI.. IT was DUI manslaughter.. Show 1 thing that says that Mario Reyes was proven to be at fault...
 
nigerbang

nigerbang

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and.. I said proof that the police stated that he was in the wrong.. not the same tired old stuff..
Your basing your argument on the FACT that he was in the wrong.. I have yet to see where the police have said it was his fault.. We all know crossing the road outside the crosswalk isnt the smartest thing.. But driving drunk far exceeds the risk of crossing road in said place..
 
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