What skimmer for 180 Gallons??

aztec reef

Active Member
Originally Posted by m0nk
http:///forum/post/2666711
That's what I've been told. There's a member here (trippkid) who used to setup tanks locally as a job and he once explained how the acrylic and plastic had different water retention and why the acrylic is better. I wish I was smart enough to explain it too, but most of what he said was over my head and I can't remember it.

that sounds like an interesting theory>. but keep in mind that acrylic is a plastic too.
I know a few things about acrylic though.
Acrylic is a better insulator and helps to buffer the aquarium from temperature fluctuations in the environment. It also allows better penetration of your tank's lighting.
Also its has less distortion than plastic or glass. It has almost the same refractive index as nsw, and theres no bending of light, as it passes from acrylic into seawater.. Acrylic is made out of
hydrophilic fibers and filaments with good coloring response to dyes from filament-forming hydrophobic synthetic polymers having a sheath-core structure with a highly microporous core and a substantially compact sheath and having a water retention capacity of at least 10% wherein the pores in the core have an average pore diameter measured in the direction of the cross-section of the fiber, of at most 4000 A.
Some acrylic applications have fibres of porous structure with high water retention properties. they can have water absorbent fibres with atotal water content of 20-35% of the fiber wweight, when dryed they can form small pores with connecting passages, which promotes capillary action, absorbing water quickly. However this type of water absorbent acrylic fibres retain the physical and mechanical properties of normal acrylic fibres..
 

m0nk

Active Member
Originally Posted by Aztec Reef
http:///forum/post/2666820
that sounds like an interesting theory>. but keep in mind that acrylic is a plastic too.
I know a few things about acrylic though.
Acrylic is a better insulator and helps to buffer the aquarium from temperature fluctuations in the environment. It also allows better penetration of your tank's lighting.
Also its has less distortion than plastic or glass. It has almost the same refractive index as nsw, and theres no bending of light, as it passes from acrylic into seawater.. Acrylic is made out of
hydrophilic fibers and filaments with good coloring response to dyes from filament-forming hydrophobic synthetic polymers having a sheath-core structure with a highly microporous core and a substantially compact sheath and having a water retention capacity of at least 10% wherein the pores in the core have an average pore diameter measured in the direction of the cross-section of the fiber, of at most 4000 A.
Some acrylic applications have fibres of porous structure with high water retention properties. they can have water absorbent fibres with atotal water content of 20-35% of the fiber wweight, when dryed they can form small pores with connecting passages, which promotes capillary action, absorbing water quickly. However this type of water absorbent acrylic fibres retain the physical and mechanical properties of normal acrylic fibres..
That's some interesting info. Do you think it helps the skim?

I can't help but wonder too if we ran an experiment with an ASM in one tank and an NW200 in another, with the same water volume, same coral and fish inhabitants, how they'd size up.
To be honest to the OP, I don't think it really matters which one, it's which one you'd rather invest in.
 

9supratt4

Active Member
I'm looking at purchasing an ASM G3 with pump (used) for $130.
Good skimmer?? Worth $130.00??
And will it work well with my new 180 with sump??
 

xtreeme

Member
heh lol any skimmer with mesh will skim. What matters is features, does it overflow do bubbles escape.
best pump in order
venturi
needle (good)
mesh (best)
there is a skim unit comes with mesh anyone know which.
 

mr_x

Active Member
Originally Posted by xtreeme
http:///forum/post/2705315
heh lol any skimmer with mesh will skim. .
it needs to pull air in order for the mesh wheel to put fine bubbles into the water.
"any skimmer will skim" is vague.
the skimmer that comes pre-meshed is the MSX series of skimmers . but those skimmers don't come with 130 dollar pricetag, and you can mesh the 130 dollar skimmer, and it will do an excellent job.
 

xtreeme

Member
your right I meant was any good pump and mesh wheel mod is going to make foam. Pulling air is the pump. The rest is the skimmer and it makes a diff. If it makes tons of foam but floods or has bubbles in tank I wouldnt use it.
"the skimmer that comes pre-meshed is the MSX series of skimmers"
thats it! thanks. They make one for 125 gallon? $200 ish right?
9supratt4
I sent you a PM. The kit has what need to mod. I will look for the guide I had a link.
 

hefner413

Active Member
Originally Posted by Mr_X
http:///forum/post/2705285
it's a good skimmer, however, i'd recommend doing a mesh wheel mod on it.
Where do you get the mesh wheel? Can any skimmer accept this mod? I have the super skimmer 220 and my biggest complaint is that it doesn't make enough bubbles. I assume a mesh wheel would help? If so, where/how do you get it?
 

cranberry

Active Member
My favourite skimmer on my tanks right now is the Euroreef RC180. I'm really hating my turboflotor and ASM at the moment.
 

bioneck47

Member
Originally Posted by joncat24
http:///forum/post/2666502
MSX 200 is the best skimmer for the money for that size tank.
I agree!
I have both the asm g4 and msx 200 and the msx is much better. However, I don't have my asm mesh modded and if you can get it for $130, I'd def. get it. The asm's are good skimmers and you can't go wrong with it IMO.
 

mr_x

Active Member
Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/2705768
My favourite skimmer on my tanks right now is the Euroreef RC180. I'm really hating my turboflotor and ASM at the moment.
yoour ASM is the same as your euro-reef except for the plastic/acrylic. what do you hate about it, but love about the other, besides that? do you like that the euro-reef recirculates? you can do that to the ASM very easily.
 

mr_x

Active Member
Originally Posted by Hefner413
http:///forum/post/2705757
Where do you get the mesh wheel? Can any skimmer accept this mod? I have the super skimmer 220 and my biggest complaint is that it doesn't make enough bubbles. I assume a mesh wheel would help? If so, where/how do you get it?
look up enkamat.
it's the material you would be using to mesh mod it. and yes, any skimmer that has a needle wheel can be modded.
 

cranberry

Active Member
Originally Posted by Mr_X
http:///forum/post/2705833
yoour ASM is the same as your euro-reef except for the plastic/acrylic. what do you hate about it, but love about the other, besides that? do you like that the euro-reef recirculates? you can do that to the ASM very easily.
Mine just refuses to be "tuned". If the water level drops a mm in the sump it stops producing skimmate. With the euroreef I just "set it and forget it". I've never had to really mess with it. My hands are always in the sump messing with the ASM.
 

mr_x

Active Member
no skimmer, no matter the brand, should be in an area of the sump where the water level fluctuates. i don't see how it would be different if you lowered or raised the level of water in the euro-reef sump.
 

abe

New Member
honestly... i am going to have to say the Warner Marine skimmers are the best deal out there right now.
Look into the AS-series skimmers by Warner Marine
AS 250 is only $650. its pulling as much air as a BK skimmer with the new meshwheel mods jon warner has put in... with a SEDRA!!!
these skimmers are not hype... they are for real quality. the bubble plate isnt there just for looks, it actually works in reducing turblence in the skimmer. the bubbles stay uniform throughout the whole foam column.
HTH
abe
PS: i'd also recommend Bubble Master skimmers and ATB cone skimmers. ATB cone skimmers are a bit more expensive but well worth the $$$.
 
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