Would this fish be a good first choice
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chrgerondavins
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Originally Posted by Chris2010
http:///forum/post/2509051
Thank you guys for the info. Would it be ok to have a 4 and 6 line wrasse in the same tank?? And ophiura, I will probably get a QT down the road when I start buying the more expensive fish. Do you run protein skimmers on QTs???
I mean you should probably put a great white shark in there too.
Ok just kidding I hope it all works out but it's unlikely.
http:///forum/post/2509051
Thank you guys for the info. Would it be ok to have a 4 and 6 line wrasse in the same tank?? And ophiura, I will probably get a QT down the road when I start buying the more expensive fish. Do you run protein skimmers on QTs???
I mean you should probably put a great white shark in there too.
Ok just kidding I hope it all works out but it's unlikely.
spiderwoman
Active Member
Originally Posted by Chris2010
http:///forum/post/2507604
Not to be rude but the guy who had this before us, has 35 years of saltwater experience and kept about 12 - 15 tangs in the tank we have now. NOT JOKING
I think that is the key... he had a LOT of experience (35 yrs). Not something that most of us newbies have. Experience makes a huge difference. I'd take it easy and listen (read) what the more experienced users here tell you. They've been around the block a time or two and are giving you good and sound advice.
http:///forum/post/2507604
Not to be rude but the guy who had this before us, has 35 years of saltwater experience and kept about 12 - 15 tangs in the tank we have now. NOT JOKING
I think that is the key... he had a LOT of experience (35 yrs). Not something that most of us newbies have. Experience makes a huge difference. I'd take it easy and listen (read) what the more experienced users here tell you. They've been around the block a time or two and are giving you good and sound advice.
stdreb27
Active Member
You've got a huge tank. If this is your first tank, it sounds like it is, definately need to set up a QT tank, especially if your going for lots of tangs, which is possible with your tank. Almost every fish you get is going to have some sort of parasite. And you can treat it in a qt tank before you put it in your display tank. Or else you will have a how do I treat ich thread in the near future.
Second take it very slow. get to know your system, the maintenance, before you drop in a bunch of expensive fish.
For tangs, you really want to try to stay away from tangs of the same family, personally I don't think your tank is big enough to drop 2 sailfins in together or whatnot. I dunno you have to walk before you can run.
Second take it very slow. get to know your system, the maintenance, before you drop in a bunch of expensive fish.
For tangs, you really want to try to stay away from tangs of the same family, personally I don't think your tank is big enough to drop 2 sailfins in together or whatnot. I dunno you have to walk before you can run.
chris2010
Member
A few minor changes to the tang list
Achillies tang - later down the road when I become more experienced
Blonde Naso tang
Blue hippo tang
Naso Tang
Purple Tang
Sailfin Tang
Desjardinii Tang
Vlamingi Tang
Yellow Tang
Green Chromis
Flame Angel or Coral Beauty
Green Mandrine and 6 line Wrasse
Lyretail Anthias
Gold Banded Maroon Clown Fish
Not sure If I should get a pair of nasos or Blonde nasos. Is it ok to mix this list together or should I Eliminate something else.
Achillies tang - later down the road when I become more experienced
Blonde Naso tang
Blue hippo tang
Naso Tang
Purple Tang
Sailfin Tang
Desjardinii Tang
Vlamingi Tang
Yellow Tang
Green Chromis
Flame Angel or Coral Beauty
Green Mandrine and 6 line Wrasse
Lyretail Anthias
Gold Banded Maroon Clown Fish
Not sure If I should get a pair of nasos or Blonde nasos. Is it ok to mix this list together or should I Eliminate something else.
m0nk
Active Member
Originally Posted by Chris2010
http:///forum/post/2511215
A few minor changes to the tang list
Achillies tang - later down the road when I become more experienced
Blonde Naso tang
Blue hippo tang
Naso Tang
Purple Tang
Sailfin Tang
Desjardinii Tang
Vlamingi Tang
Yellow Tang
Green Chromis
Flame Angel or Coral Beauty
Green Mandrine and 6 line Wrasse
Lyretail Anthias
Gold Banded Maroon Clown Fish
Not sure If I should get a pair of nasos or Blonde nasos. Is it ok to mix this list together or should I Eliminate something else.
You'll need to leave out one of those Zebrasomas, since they should only be in groups of 3. The Zebrasomas are:
Purple Tang
Sailfin Tang
Desjardinii Tang
Yellow Tang
The Desjardini is more colorful, but the same thing as the sailfin, just from a different region; maybe drop the regular sailfin. The Vlamingi will get very large, so be ready to eventually find a new home if it gets too big, considering how many other large fish you want to keep. I'd personally stay away from so many Naso family tangs (Vlamingi, Naso, Blonde Naso) but you're certainly welcome to go for it, they are nice fish... just remember that they all get big and are heavy eaters and leave a lot of detritus.
Also, anthias are hard to keep because they require constant feeding; they're planktonic feeders. You could have them if you setup an automatic feeder to drop some cyclopeeze every couple hours, though you'd have to make sure it's not too much and be very sure you test your water regularly. Otherwise, I'd wait on them until you have a year or so experience under your belt.
http:///forum/post/2511215
A few minor changes to the tang list
Achillies tang - later down the road when I become more experienced
Blonde Naso tang
Blue hippo tang
Naso Tang
Purple Tang
Sailfin Tang
Desjardinii Tang
Vlamingi Tang
Yellow Tang
Green Chromis
Flame Angel or Coral Beauty
Green Mandrine and 6 line Wrasse
Lyretail Anthias
Gold Banded Maroon Clown Fish
Not sure If I should get a pair of nasos or Blonde nasos. Is it ok to mix this list together or should I Eliminate something else.
You'll need to leave out one of those Zebrasomas, since they should only be in groups of 3. The Zebrasomas are:
Purple Tang
Sailfin Tang
Desjardinii Tang
Yellow Tang
The Desjardini is more colorful, but the same thing as the sailfin, just from a different region; maybe drop the regular sailfin. The Vlamingi will get very large, so be ready to eventually find a new home if it gets too big, considering how many other large fish you want to keep. I'd personally stay away from so many Naso family tangs (Vlamingi, Naso, Blonde Naso) but you're certainly welcome to go for it, they are nice fish... just remember that they all get big and are heavy eaters and leave a lot of detritus.
Also, anthias are hard to keep because they require constant feeding; they're planktonic feeders. You could have them if you setup an automatic feeder to drop some cyclopeeze every couple hours, though you'd have to make sure it's not too much and be very sure you test your water regularly. Otherwise, I'd wait on them until you have a year or so experience under your belt.
snakeblitz33
Well-Known Member
I would not try the anthias either, not just because of their feeding, but also because they don't survive well in a fish only tank. They are mainly found on reefs and should be kept on reefs.
Don't jump into anything because you can loose a lot of money trying to gain experience in this hobby.
Also, I salute you for asking us before buying any animals!
Don't jump into anything because you can loose a lot of money trying to gain experience in this hobby.
Also, I salute you for asking us before buying any animals!
m0nk
Active Member
Originally Posted by Chris2010
http:///forum/post/2511726
Ok monk in your opinion which should I get ride of, because the sailfin is almost my favorite fish in the zebra.. family. And yes Maybe i forgot to take out one of the nasos. I will be only getting A pair of blondes or regular nasos.
Well, the Desjardini and the Sailfin are basically the same fish, just from different regions, I'd go with one or the other. I personally have a sailfin and will be getting a yellow and haven't decided if another yellow or a purple, but I do agree that the sailfin is an awesome fish. As long as you stick with the group of 3 you really can't go wrong with which ones.
http:///forum/post/2511726
Ok monk in your opinion which should I get ride of, because the sailfin is almost my favorite fish in the zebra.. family. And yes Maybe i forgot to take out one of the nasos. I will be only getting A pair of blondes or regular nasos.
Well, the Desjardini and the Sailfin are basically the same fish, just from different regions, I'd go with one or the other. I personally have a sailfin and will be getting a yellow and haven't decided if another yellow or a purple, but I do agree that the sailfin is an awesome fish. As long as you stick with the group of 3 you really can't go wrong with which ones.
anthropo
Member
Originally Posted by Chris2010
http:///forum/post/2511215
A few minor changes to the tang list
Achillies tang - later down the road when I become more experienced
Blonde Naso tang
Blue hippo tang
Naso Tang
Purple Tang
Sailfin Tang
Desjardinii Tang
Vlamingi Tang
Yellow Tang
Green Chromis
Flame Angel or Coral Beauty
Green Mandrine and 6 line Wrasse
Lyretail Anthias
Gold Banded Maroon Clown Fish
Not sure If I should get a pair of nasos or Blonde nasos. Is it ok to mix this list together or should I Eliminate something else.
i'm surprised no ones pointed this fact out.....the achilles tang is a very hard tang to keep. they need specific conditions which would be a lot easier to get a powder blue than the achilles. also don't get a maroon clown fish unless you want to buy an anemone for them. i have a pair that constantly fan the sand which in turn makes my rocks fall because the way i have them positioned in the sand. the only way i could get them to stop is to buy a long tentacle anemone. i would have got rid of them but i've had them for 5 years.
http:///forum/post/2511215
A few minor changes to the tang list
Achillies tang - later down the road when I become more experienced
Blonde Naso tang
Blue hippo tang
Naso Tang
Purple Tang
Sailfin Tang
Desjardinii Tang
Vlamingi Tang
Yellow Tang
Green Chromis
Flame Angel or Coral Beauty
Green Mandrine and 6 line Wrasse
Lyretail Anthias
Gold Banded Maroon Clown Fish
Not sure If I should get a pair of nasos or Blonde nasos. Is it ok to mix this list together or should I Eliminate something else.
i'm surprised no ones pointed this fact out.....the achilles tang is a very hard tang to keep. they need specific conditions which would be a lot easier to get a powder blue than the achilles. also don't get a maroon clown fish unless you want to buy an anemone for them. i have a pair that constantly fan the sand which in turn makes my rocks fall because the way i have them positioned in the sand. the only way i could get them to stop is to buy a long tentacle anemone. i would have got rid of them but i've had them for 5 years.
stdreb27
Active Member
Come on most fish can be "hard to keep." And with all those large fish, it is going to be a messy tank. If you want them, you're going to have to clean religiously regardless if you get a nasso or not. And you're going to need a beefy skimmer and alot of mechanical filtration. You're going to have to QT everything, I'd hypo everything too. With as much as you are going to have to feed all those tangs, I'd imagine your anthias would be ok. But they are generally a reef fish because of that reason. Just let your tank establish, (wait a few months) then drop the anthias in. If you want a beautiful sailfin go with the red sea variety. Them and their fins are beautiful.
chrgerondavins
Member
Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2512090
Come on most fish can be "hard to keep." And with all those large fish, it is going to be a messy tank. If you want them, you're going to have to clean religiously regardless if you get a nasso or not. And you're going to need a beefy skimmer and alot of mechanical filtration. You're going to have to QT everything, I'd hypo everything too. With as much as you are going to have to feed all those tangs, I'd imagine your anthias would be ok. But they are generally a reef fish because of that reason. Just let your tank establish, (wait a few months) then drop the anthias in. If you want a beautiful sailfin go with the red sea variety. Them and their fins are beautiful.
This person is going to have to buy an entire box of seaweed salad in this tank daily, and some tangs never learn to eat it. Competition for food is probably going to kill many of them reguardless.
http:///forum/post/2512090
Come on most fish can be "hard to keep." And with all those large fish, it is going to be a messy tank. If you want them, you're going to have to clean religiously regardless if you get a nasso or not. And you're going to need a beefy skimmer and alot of mechanical filtration. You're going to have to QT everything, I'd hypo everything too. With as much as you are going to have to feed all those tangs, I'd imagine your anthias would be ok. But they are generally a reef fish because of that reason. Just let your tank establish, (wait a few months) then drop the anthias in. If you want a beautiful sailfin go with the red sea variety. Them and their fins are beautiful.
This person is going to have to buy an entire box of seaweed salad in this tank daily, and some tangs never learn to eat it. Competition for food is probably going to kill many of them reguardless.
sh2000
Member
12 tangs in 275 is ok i'm assuming since no one here has said anything about it...so i currently have 2 tangs in my 120...so one would think i can get away with about 4 more tangs as longs as they are not the same family...
so in this 120 it will have a purple tang 3 hippos and a powder blue...based on this thread i see no problems.
so in this 120 it will have a purple tang 3 hippos and a powder blue...based on this thread i see no problems.
wangotango
Active Member
The OP's list has been shaved down slightly, and I am assuming will get smaller. There is a big difference between a 275 and a 120, and just because someone does something doesn't mean it will work for everyone.
It's not just about similar families. IMO there is no way that 6 tangs can live well in a standard 120. Not enough space, not enough rock.
-Justin
It's not just about similar families. IMO there is no way that 6 tangs can live well in a standard 120. Not enough space, not enough rock.
-Justin
ci11337
Active Member
Originally Posted by SH2000
http:///forum/post/2512750
12 tangs in 275 is ok i'm assuming since no one here has said anything about it...so i currently have 2 tangs in my 120...so one would think i can get away with about 4 more tangs as longs as they are not the same family...
so in this 120 it will have a purple tang 3 hippos and a powder blue...based on this thread i see no problems.
You would have a serious problem, lets put the obvious aggression problems aside for a moment and think about fish size. Think of this, a 10in fish (many of the tangs mentioned get this big) is biological equivalent to 10,000 1in fish.(10x as long, tall, and wide.) A 120 with 6 tangs, and in my opinion a 275 with 12 tangs is way overloaded unless you have a crazy filter system (10ft tall skimmer and a fluidized bed filter) or it is hooked up to the ocean. Tangs are high energy and need alot of food. Not to mention in the wild these fish patrol home ranges way bigger than any of our tanks.
http:///forum/post/2512750
12 tangs in 275 is ok i'm assuming since no one here has said anything about it...so i currently have 2 tangs in my 120...so one would think i can get away with about 4 more tangs as longs as they are not the same family...
so in this 120 it will have a purple tang 3 hippos and a powder blue...based on this thread i see no problems.
You would have a serious problem, lets put the obvious aggression problems aside for a moment and think about fish size. Think of this, a 10in fish (many of the tangs mentioned get this big) is biological equivalent to 10,000 1in fish.(10x as long, tall, and wide.) A 120 with 6 tangs, and in my opinion a 275 with 12 tangs is way overloaded unless you have a crazy filter system (10ft tall skimmer and a fluidized bed filter) or it is hooked up to the ocean. Tangs are high energy and need alot of food. Not to mention in the wild these fish patrol home ranges way bigger than any of our tanks.